Dairy chit chat II

Say my name · 14-04-2018 11:23PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Someone else's stock is it

There me own.
Just moving them off ground was reseeded last autumn onto a harder field beside it ahead of tonights rain.
But still wanted to get a few hours grazing more of the reseed this evening after milking.
The lights on the quadtruc are a right job for it.

Reggie. · 14-04-2018 11:27PM

Say my name wrote: »

There me own.
Just moving them off ground was reseeded last autumn onto a harder field beside it ahead of tonights rain.
But still wanted to get a few hours grazing more of the reseed this evening after milking.
The lights on the quadtruc are a right job for it.

Put a LED lights on the roof. Some job

Say my name · 14-04-2018 11:34PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Put a LED lights on the roof. Some job

I have a few modifications planned for it.

Thinking just thinking about putting tracks on it and maybe in the future putting a removable fert spreader on the deck and maybe the sprayer too.

Going to bring it somewhere this week to get a rough price on tracks.

They have tracks on them in the U.S. and fert spreaders on them in nz so I can't see why the two can't go together.

Reggie. · 15-04-2018 12:02AM

Say my name wrote: »

I have a few modifications planned for it.

Thinking just thinking about putting tracks on it and maybe in the future putting a removable fert spreader on the deck and maybe the sprayer too.

Going to bring it somewhere this week to get a rough price on tracks.

They have tracks on them in the U.S. and fert spreaders on them in nz so I can't see why the two can't go together.

This I wanna see

Say my name · 15-04-2018 08:01AM

Reggie. wrote: »

This I wanna see

The fundraising starts now.:p

Water John · 15-04-2018 11:34AM

Are you expecting us all to contribute, through Crowdfunding?

Panch18 · 15-04-2018 11:53AM

Say my name wrote: »

There me own.
Just moving them off ground was reseeded last autumn onto a harder field beside it ahead of tonights rain.
But still wanted to get a few hours grazing more of the reseed this evening after milking.
The lights on the quadtruc are a right job for it.

How you getting on with the quad truc? Happy with it?

Say my name · 15-04-2018 01:14PM

Panch18 wrote: »

How you getting on with the quad truc? Happy with it?

Yea but it is heavier than an atv or quad on the land hence the interest in the tracks. Plus where I bought it put bigger wheels on the back so I can't really use the 4wd and the low range is 4wd.
That said it still was a lot cheaper than an atv with more comfort.

It might end up like this this.
The father never liked the quad and who doesn't like comfort.
https://youtu.be/ViZA2-_AIpA

Timmaay · 15-04-2018 01:26PM

Say my name wrote: »

Yea but it is heavier than an atv or quad on the land hence the interest in the tracks. Plus where I bought it put bigger wheels on the back so I can't really use the 4wd and the low range is 4wd.
That said it still was a lot cheaper than an atv with more comfort.

It might end up like this this.
The father never liked the quad and who doesn't like comfort.
https://youtu.be/ViZA2-_AIpA

What sort of money for the tracks? Wouldnt mind a Suzuki jimny or pajero junior here for a similar job, I was thinking of quad wheels lol?

Say my name · 15-04-2018 01:42PM

Timmaay wrote: »

What sort of money for the tracks? Wouldnt mind a Suzuki jimny or pajero junior here for a similar job, I was thinking of quad wheels lol?

I'll find out this week on the price for definite. So I'll hold fire on my estimate.

There's atv wheels on this yoke and even I'm afraid to bring it on the land now unless necessary and this would be lighter than a jimny or junior. It won't get stuck ( I tried it fairly well last year). But I just want to get a lower ground pressure.

I have a lend of a trailer off someone to bring it around for a few days and they had dumper wheels on a range rover.

Not for the fields though more like the mountain.

Mf310 · 15-04-2018 02:40PM

Man looking for me for full time work until the end of summer he told me to name my price i havent really a clue what the going rate is id be well experienced in cows and machinery id be able to do any job no bother that way but just wondering what is the general run of pay what would be fair on him was gonna say 12-13â‚¬ per hour ... dairy farmer ... what would ye reckon?

jaymla627 · 15-04-2018 02:49PM

Mf310 wrote: »

Man looking for me for full time work until the end of summer he told me to name my price i havent really a clue what the going rate is id be well experienced in cows and machinery id be able to do any job no bother that way but just wondering what is the general run of pay what would be fair on him was gonna say 12-13â‚¬ per hour ... dairy farmer ... what would ye reckon?

Sounds about right, famine for lads out their that are willing to milk cows so wouldn't be doing it for anyless

visatorro · 15-04-2018 04:58PM

Mf310 wrote: »

Man looking for me for full time work until the end of summer he told me to name my price i havent really a clue what the going rate is id be well experienced in cows and machinery id be able to do any job no bother that way but just wondering what is the general run of pay what would be fair on him was gonna say 12-13â‚¬ per hour ... dairy farmer ... what would ye reckon?

Ask for more. You won't get it if you don't ask. A good lad around a yard is value at 20 an hour. A bad lad is well bad value.

Keepgrowing · 15-04-2018 07:13PM

visatorro wrote: »

Ask for more. You won't get it if you don't ask. A good lad around a yard is value at 20 an hour. A bad lad is well bad value.

Gross or net?

kevthegaff · 15-04-2018 09:03PM

At foto zoo today for the twins birthday, Feck hardly saw an animal with them all taking to shelter!! Came back fuse blown in parlour as esb upgrade yet to happen, rejigging around has up and running

JOAT · 15-04-2018 09:30PM

Anyone get grass tested for minerals? What’s involved in it and where in the Munster area can it be tested? Cheers

visatorro · 15-04-2018 10:20PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Gross or net?

Before tax. Say working fifty hours per week average over the year.

Keepgrowing · 15-04-2018 10:23PM

visatorro wrote: »

Before tax. Say working fifty hours per week average over the year.

€52,000 per year for an operative inc holidays.

Op let us know how that goes.

visatorro · 15-04-2018 10:29PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

€52,000 per year for an operative inc holidays.

Op let us know how that goes.

Aim high! Not too much thought of a tenner an hour any more. Large scale farms expect alot from an 'operative' but I don't think the pay reflects the effort. I've my paye hat on!

Keepgrowing · 15-04-2018 10:57PM

visatorro wrote: »

Aim high! Not too much thought of a tenner an hour any more. Large scale farms expect alot from an 'operative' but I don't think the pay reflects the effort. I've my paye hat on!

€52k is decision makers pay imv

Mf310 · 15-04-2018 11:17PM

Keepgrowing wrote:

â‚¬52k is decision makers pay imv

Yes id think so too what would you reckon would be fair keepgrowing 13 14â‚¬ be very fair for both parties?

kowtow · 15-04-2018 11:25PM

Keepgrowing wrote:

â‚¬52k is decision makers pay imv

True, although normally the kind of decisions made by train drivers, tram drivers etc.

I think you are right though there wouldn't be many dairy farms paying it unless for a full time manager.

Timmaay · 16-04-2018 12:07AM

Mf310 wrote: »

Yes id think so too what would you reckon would be fair keepgrowing 13 14â‚¬ be very fair for both parties?

There is no "fair" set wage, it purely depends on the person's responsibility and ability, alongside the hours they would be expected to do. 10e/hr is fair for someone who is lowly skilled, and needs a decent bit of looking over (and the worst sort of lad is someone who thinks and says they can do everything but actually aren't as good as they think ha). 14e is a reasonable rate for a person who knows what they are at, they will usually know themselves and be able to tell an employer why they will have no problem getting 14e over a 10e chap ha. 20e as kg says is decision makers money, to be able to get this you would be able to sell yourself well, and show how you can run the show without much input required.

Finally, I said alongside the hours they work, if they are say just fulltime milking on the farm, which would be say only 5hours a day work, then they would be expected more like the 20e/hr as they are sacrificing the chance for an alternative fulltime job.

Mooooo · 16-04-2018 12:09AM

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visatorro · 16-04-2018 12:13AM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

€52k is decision makers pay imv

Say for arguments sake I'm milking 200, with myself and one full time Labour unit. I can't go round holding hands or pointing out basic stuff. IF I was the owner in this situation I would have no problem paying someone who is making decisions and calls and showing commitment every day. I find alot of managers are over paid and clueless. Well I'm talking about managers in different industries.

Gawddawggonnit · 16-04-2018 05:30AM

The lowest paid here are on €34,689, for 35hr week, works one weekend in three, and gets seven weeks paid holidays. For the weekend they work, there’s a weekday off in lieu. Lunch, five course, is included for everyone at a cost of €11.50/day.

The highest are on €72k...then there’s yours truly and OH.

Adds up.

Figures are gross btw.

Keepgrowing · 16-04-2018 07:03AM

Mf310 wrote: »

Yes id think so too what would you reckon would be fair keepgrowing 13 14â‚¬ be very fair for both parties?

Assuming you know your stuff and are a good time keeper id say starting at €15/HR with the proviso that there be a review after 4-6 mths. Gross
No employee should ever talk net when talking about wages, the cute guys give their tax allowance to their wives.

whelan2 · 16-04-2018 08:12AM

What do frs pay/ charge per hour for general farm operatives?

einn32 · 16-04-2018 08:14AM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Assuming you know your stuff and are a good time keeper id say starting at €15/HR with the proviso that there be a review after 4-6 mths. Gross
No employee should ever talk net when talking about wages, the cute guys give their tax allowance to their wives.

Irish farming can't get to grips with employing someone as far as I can see. The rosters are not inviting, no bonus system for lots of hours worked, rarely see pay per hour, no perks like a house provided with the majority of jobs I've seen. No one seems to know the appropriate pay rates because there's no guidance. Also farm workers are seen as non skilled here, shur anyone can milk cows but you just have to keep an eye on them.

I suspect a lot of the manager jobs are just a title to get people in while the owner actually manages the place. Any person worth their salt are leasing their own farm or farms as far as I can see. There are a few people who are good employers with a grasp of how to employ someone. Once you get a good reputation as an employer the good candidates come in.

Keepgrowing · 16-04-2018 09:00AM

einn32 wrote: »

Irish farming can't get to grips with employing someone as far as I can see. The rosters are not inviting, no bonus system for lots of hours worked, rarely see pay per hour, no perks like a house provided with the majority of jobs I've seen. No one seems to know the appropriate pay rates because there's no guidance. Also farm workers are seen as non skilled here, shur anyone can milk cows but you just have to keep an eye on them.

I suspect a lot of the manager jobs are just a title to get people in while the owner actually manages the place. Any person worth their salt are leasing their own farm or farms as far as I can see. There are a few people who are good employers with a grasp of how to employ someone. Once you get a good reputation as an employer the good candidates come in.

Nailed it

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