Sexual assualt list posted in boys toilet in Cork school

BadTurtle wrote: »

Doylefes IP address needs to be checked by the Gardai I'd say.

Gardai aren't all that bothered with low-level internet trolling.

BadTurtle wrote: »

A staff member? Are you ill?

Anyone who had access to those toilets could have scrawled that message. If someone wanted to introduce 'consent classes' in the school for the boys, there could be a motive to create the problem that needs to be solved.

Its more likely its some edgelord trying to be funny, but lets not assume the only people who could have made that message are the boys.

namloc1980 wrote: »

That's some leap there.

I especially liked the bit where you removed the context I placed it in.

facehugger99 wrote: »

It’s kinda ridiculous that toilet graffiti made the front page of the Irish Independent.

I'd like to think we have passed the peak of #metoo hysteria, but probably not.

garbo speaks wrote: »

Get real. It was just a bit of nonsense some kids wrote as a laugh. The kind of thing that has gone on for generations. But, this is 2018 folks, where nothing is a joke to the snowflakes.

Rape is not something children should even think about.

rusty cole wrote: »

we're desensitised to murders and the likes nowadays, we can watch beheadings on a smart phone at the back of the bus if we choose, mental stuff.

If Rapey **** isn't treated with the seriousness it deserves and it becomes subject matter for hanging in the girls toilets, sure what's next?? the neighbourhood covert pervert penning his sex fantasies for the 8 yr old next door and sticking them up in the local starbucks??? ahhh pride of place, sure it's only a love letter Gardai??

If I knew who wrote that and my kid was listed on it, I'd burst his fathers face in front of him!! Just think colin farrell in true detective and you'll get the drift.

Your 'drift' is laughable, impotent virtue signaling.

Cayden Tasty Peppercorn wrote: »

No I don't have facts and figures, and certainly didn't mean to imply that all, or even the majority if young males nowadays behave like this.But there does seem to be a minority of young men who are quite openly disrespectful towards young women, seeing nothing wrong with using the crudest of terms when speaking about them, circulating inappropriate pictures, and so on. Of course, it wasn't non existent amongst previous generations, but there seems to have been an increasing acceptance of it in recent years, a blind eye turned etc.
The anger over the Belfast trial indicates that many men and women would like to see a sea change, so I suppose I'm going on empirical evidence.

Say what?

You are making huge assumptions based on nothing by emotions and then have the gall to say that the twitter mob is some sort of empirical evidence to solidify your position?

Ask yourself, where are you getting your information from? I presume the national media and/or social media. Therefore your information is going to be filtered, skewed and biased towards a certain narrative.

The only outcome I can see from all this, is that the media Ireland from a journalistic integrity perspective is dead.

As I said, we can swap out rape/sexual assault with Muslim or immigrant or whatever the zeitgeist of the day is.

Are people that stupid to fall for everyday Moral panic.

tretorn wrote: »

I was wondering how long it would take for some righteous individual to lay the blame for this at Jacksons door.

Henceforth PJ is to be held culpable for every sexual transgression carried out by males in the world.

I wondered how long it would take some hysterical person to contort the facts into this ridiculous position.

Paddy Jackson and the others involved are only responsible for themselves and their own actions. No one has ever suggested otherwise.

A society that rewards and makes an idol of a person who shows themselves happy to be utterly degrading about an entire sex is another thing.
Small kids should not dream to grow up to be a star who describes female peers as "merry-go-rounds" and "sluts" and who illustrates that those are his thoughts by behaviour, by allowing a young girl he's just slept with leave his home hysterically upset and not even get out of bed or say goodbye to her. You make that man a national hero because he can kick a ball you are sending a message to impressionable minds that it's ok to see other people as disposable commodities undeserving of the slightest respect. It's not Paddy's fault if that happens. It's the fault of everyone else who let it happen and said "yeah, this seems ok,let's let it go.".

professore wrote: »

Let me get this straight - some idiot writes stupid graffiti on the back of a door and it's national news?

Of course it's distasteful - but there are always going to be low IQ idiots writing stuff like this.

Just yesterday I read graffiti in girls writing saying "Mary is a slut" and a phone number. Should that make the front page too?

Girls writing.
Excuse my ignorance. But what is that?
Was it pink :P

professore wrote: »

I have to stop reading these threads. They all follow the same pattern: I see the story, think this could be an interesting discussion, then read a few comments of the Maude Flanders brigade - what an outrage it is, how pretty much boys are evil and rapists and how girls are pure as the driven snow, and it annoys the hell out of me.

It's so far from the truth it's ridiculous.

When did all this crap start?

Maybe if you didn't read things that no one said you would get less annoyed? No one is saying boys are evil and rapists. Nor are all girls angels.

People are saying that these particular people crossed a serious line and teens need to be shown it is not appropriate. Most have also said that this is not usual behaviour for boys (on the basis that many of us were boys and did not do it) - so saying the exact opposite of what you claimed.

If anyone has reached the Flanders level of hyperbole it is yourself.

wexie wrote: »

You seem to be somewhat vague on the difference between 'intentions' and 'actions'

But sure I'll bite, give me an example (just one) where 'intentions' on their own have ever done anything, good or bad.

Death threats terrify the recipients. Witnesses can be put into protection because of the intentions of others to keep them quiet.

If people spread around rumours that the kids in question were rapists (which would be false and a horrible thing to do) it would ruin their lives. Just words, no action taken against them.
Words can and have frequently changed peoples lives.