Do you like working?

Cina · 13-04-2018 12:14PM

I think work has its ups and downs, sometimes I enjoy it, others I wish I wasn't here.

But overall work in a stable job generally improves the other aspects of your life which is the important thing. Having the money to enjoy your evenings and weekends, go on holidays, afford a decent home/car, is so much better than not working and not being able to do those things.

I also think working a standard 5 day week makes you look forward to weekends/holidays much more. I spent a year on the dole when I first came out of uni and the weeks seemed to just blend in, every day was basically the same. When a Saturday came along I usually wouldn't even realize until I saw the footie was on.

weldoninhio · 13-04-2018 12:22PM

Cina wrote: »

I think work has its ups and downs, sometimes I enjoy it, others I wish I wasn't here.

But overall work in a stable job generally improves the other aspects of your life which is the important thing. Having the money to enjoy your evenings and weekends, go on holidays, afford a decent home/car, is so much better than not working and not being able to do those things.

I also think working a standard 5 day week makes you look forward to weekends/holidays much more. I spent a year on the dole when I first came out of uni and the weeks seemed to just blend in, every day was basically the same. When a Saturday came along I usually wouldn't even realize until I saw the footie was on.

Have you even read the OP??

smurfjed · 13-04-2018 12:53PM

2-3000 per month would only give me access to my work toy for about 30 minutes, while I'm not a lover of sitting around nice hotels, the exhilaration when i get to work is absolutely amazing even on nice easy days, throw in nasty weather, winds, sandstorms and I would actually say that I should be paying to have this much fun.

Arghus · 13-04-2018 12:59PM

I could find loads of things to occupy with myself other than slaving for a wage if I could get a decent magical amount of money to get by with.

Work is a chore, a means to an end. I hate it and would not miss it one single bit.

PandaPoo · 13-04-2018 12:59PM

I just have a part time retail job but I love my job.
I have kids so my 20 hours would be plenty, I hate getting ready for work but once I'm there it's the best.

jjbrien · 13-04-2018 01:22PM

I voted no myself but would have liked another option would liked to do something more life fufilling and helping make a better society for all instead of working 9 to 5 for someones profit

eviltwin · 13-04-2018 01:41PM

I love my job so I would still do it. Maybe part time though.

CrankyHaus · 13-04-2018 02:34PM

Debtocracy wrote: »

One of the problems with work is the increasing lack of meaning. So many middle management, communications analyst, innovation expert, organisational consultants that contribute zero to their company. It’s a phenomenon that is observed in both the public and private sector.

Capitalism shouldn’t allow this in the private sector. However, it’s hard to accurately assess the values of roles, the only option seems to be to employ a bunch of people and hope some of them will get the real work done. This will usually happen according to the pareto principle, with 20% of employees producing 80% of the output.

I think it’s inevitable though that as performance metrics become more accurate, this explosion of meaningless roles should stop. The guys who just pass on emails, who use 100% task delegation or who manage people that don’t need managing should be weeded out by our new HR robot overlords.

I actually think the opposite. I think that automation of real jobs over the last few decades has led to an explosion in BS jobs that is accelerating (influencers, chief diversity officers, the mushrooming of training and education that adds less and less value). I believe this is a way the system unconsciously compensated for automation increased unemployment, you wouldn't have even been able to get people to fill such roles in industrial economies during full employment in the 50s and 60s.

Bear in mind that we've been living with automation taking jobs for decades at this stage, it just hasn't really ramped up. A US Government Commission reported on it as long ago as the late 1960s (it recommended UBI among other measures, so it's an older idea than many think).

I think it's the shape of things to come. Media, presumably cued up by the HR sector, constantly emphasises the importance of people skills over technical ones. Look forward to a future of gender-fluid mime artistry and social media likes whoring to bring home the bacon.

weldoninhio · 13-04-2018 02:46PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

If you are offering it now, I'll walk right out of work and never come back. I actually like my job, but I hate having to get out of bed in the morning and commuting.

Also, if everyone was off there would be plenty to do socially. It wouldn't be like now where you might book a week off and be the only one of your friends with the time off.

4 hours now, and not one offer to give me E2-3k a month to not have to work. Could you all not chip in?? It would be an scientific experiment.

Kivaro · 13-04-2018 03:26PM

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

I dont like my job but it pays well. But the thoughts of doing noting and having no schedule if that was the case would drive me crooked

Often took a few days off and by say the 4th day i would be crawling the walls if i had not got something planned

Well then, you're doing it (life) all wrong then.

Arghus wrote: »

I could find loads of things to occupy with myself other than slaving for a wage if I could get a decent magical amount of money to get by with.

Work is a chore, a means to an end. I hate it and would not miss it one single bit.

And it doesn't have to be a fortune to do this.
The 'standards' of Irish people these days are through the roof. We can get by with a fraction of what we think we need.

13-04-2018 04:07PM

The work I do could be divided in two if I only had to do the fun interesting bits all the time and none of the rest that would be great.

job seeker · 13-04-2018 04:21PM

Kivaro wrote: »

Well then, you're doing it (life) all wrong then.

And it doesn't have to be a fortune to do this.
The 'standards' of Irish people these days are through the roof. We can get by with a fraction of what we think we need.

What is a fraction? 20k per annum/min wage?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-04-2018 05:37PM

It's so sad that many of you ended up in jobs that you despise.

Jesus lad's you only live once, come on, it's never too late to follow a dream or at least get into a line of of work that you've a mild interest in.

Wanderer78 · 13-04-2018 06:54PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's so sad that many of you ended up in jobs that you despise.

Jesus lad's you only live once, come on, it's never too late to follow a dream or at least get into a line of of work that you've a mild interest in.

life isnt that simple unfortunately

wakka12 · 13-04-2018 07:01PM

Id hate not working and being paid. Id feel like a little kid, I like working for the money I get. I like having a routine, a place Im needed. Id go mad out of boredom having no job, and having a job makes you appreciate time off so much more .

13-04-2018 07:09PM

I enjoy my work and the people I work with. Less so if there's 12 hour+ days but not the norm!

Galwayguy35 · 13-04-2018 07:17PM

I don't mind the job I'm doing now, handy enough most days and I finish at 3pm.

milehip · 13-04-2018 07:25PM

I love work,but then again I liked school so that's a given.

Coffee Fulled Runner · 13-04-2018 07:56PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's so sad that many of you ended up in jobs that you despise.

Jesus lad's you only live once, come on, it's never too late to follow a dream or at least get into a line of of work that you've a mild interest in.

I've a trial with Man United next week. Keep your fingers cross for me.

Mr.Plough · 13-04-2018 08:02PM

Changed jobs a year ago. A year ago the answer was no, now its yes. I only do about 20 hours a week now though, if it was 40 the answer would probably be no, but less of a no than a year ago.

mohawk · 13-04-2018 08:04PM

Well I don't always like work. I have been known to give out about it a fair bit. However some of my colleagues are great. We get on really well and have a good laugh together as well as socialise together.
I am a night owl so work gives me structure otherwise I would sleep during day and be up at night.

I would like a shift to a four day week besides by Friday there is very little left to give.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 14-04-2018 08:44AM

Coffee Fulled Runner wrote: »

I've a trial with Man United next week. Keep your fingers cross for me.

Do something that you like . Something that's realistic

Why on earth would you spend the short time you have working a job you hate.

Push yourself, we'll all be in the graveyard in 100 years time, don't go there with regrets.

job seeker · 14-04-2018 07:18PM

job seeker wrote: »

I'd nearly leave my current job and prefer not to have money. As it makes me feel like driving into oncoming traffic on the way in the morning.

I'm after emailing my notice for this job.

After being offered a job in what appears to be a great opportunity, in a company which looks after its staff. Weekends off, training and opportunity for premonition are also nice..

Beasty · 14-04-2018 08:11PM

I've been in pretty much the same "role" with my employer for nearly 30 years. I started as deputy to the no 1 in my area of specialism. The no 1 left after 18 months and although they wanted to replace him they could not afford to, and I essentially inherited the role

The next 6 years or so I stuck around - pay was not brilliant, and there was not a massive amount going on. However I was the goto person in my area, and was always at the centre of anything that did happen. I knew something big would happen to the business but did not know what, or when. What I did know was I wanted to be around whenever it did happen.

It happened in 1996, and again I was at the centre of it. I worked hard (over a 12 month period I had 3 days holiday between XMas and New Year - I also had a day in hospital and was supposed to have the following day off to recover but went in. Over a 3-4 year period I pretty much gave up about 45 days of holiday entitlement.

I was enjoying every minute of it, and my reputation within the business was secure. Over the next 10 years we were involved in many of the largest transactions in the country and I was again at the centre of it all, lapping it all up, continuing to build my reputation and doing very nicely money-wise

There was then perhaps 4 or 5 years of "consolidation" before changes in the global environment in my own field brought fresh and interesting (and in some ways fascinating) changes, which changed my role a bit. I had a major accident which laid me up for a while, but since coming back it's almost been a new lease of life.

I'll probably start winding down in another year or two, before retiring a couple of years after that. Ultimately though I have probably had one of the best jobs I possibly could have in my field of specialism. Yes I was in the right place at the right time, but equally I do feel I managed to make some of my own luck. Would I change any of it? Absolutely not. Yes there were frustrations in the early years, but all-in I've had a very challenging, but more importantly enjoyable, working life

EPAndlee · 14-04-2018 08:17PM

I do like working but I also don't like working. I like been left alone for the day and doing my job but it's the whole work 6 days a week is what I dislike. Mainly because I don't get enough time to do hobbies or get stuff around the house done

zweton · 14-04-2018 08:36PM

Mr.Plough wrote: »

Changed jobs a year ago. A year ago the answer was no, now its yes. I only do about 20 hours a week now though, if it was 40 the answer would probably be no, but less of a no than a year ago.

what did you change to and from what?

ballyharpat · 17-04-2018 09:50PM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

You make good arguments and I agree with them but what if you could and did set up your own routine for your own outlets, to be changed whenever you wish ? I know of the many projects I have, most would provide a great sense of worth and achievement, and the social aspect is something that can be catered for in a voluntary or community environment too. Maybe I'm dreaming and it wouldn't happen, but I'd be first in line to give it a try

-this is it, Lots of voluntary work available that can give purpose to your life, doing what you want, when you want, it also gives a big social circle, as do any hobbies you may have. Also, I think some people are misunderstanding the thread, so if you could stop working and have the same income as when working.
I was not working for 6 months, but only had unemployment benefit coming in-that's not fun. Nor is it fun being off work because of an injury or illness, you easily get bored.
But if you have enough money to travel, have a nice car and plenty to pay your bills, then that is a much better quality of life. I love every minute of the day, I am always up for 9.30, and have a full day, but sometimes I just want to sit and watch netflix or read, or go cycling all day, or go to the beach, or go driving somewhere....... I can honestly say that I never envy anyone going to work.
As well as that, no matter if it's the lotto, or anything else, your money still has to be managed, and that always takes some time out of your week/month.

lazeedaisy · 17-04-2018 09:57PM

I was in a job I love for ten years, making good money, but the best job in the world with great job satisfaction.

My personal circumstances changed, and i had to move making my job not practical, from every angle.

I found it hard to get a job, now for four years I've been doing a job for minimum wage, and got bullied quite badly. I take pride in my job and am the happiest I've been here, but it's a far cry from the job I did before and for what I'm qualified to do. I realise in rural Ireland, I'll never make the money I made before and will never got a decent job as they are all given to people who know people.

I have a really happy home life and would gladly spend most of my day in the garden growing food and flowers, and spending it with my family and dogs, no contest

Ursus Horribilis · 17-04-2018 10:39PM

job seeker wrote: »

After being offered a job in what appears to be a great opportunity ....opportunity for premonition..

So in other words, you foresee that this new job is going to be really great

ahnowbrowncow · 17-04-2018 10:55PM

Beasty wrote: »

I've been in pretty much the same "role" with my employer for nearly 30 years. I started as deputy to the no 1 in my area of specialism. The no 1 left after 18 months and although they wanted to replace him they could not afford to, and I essentially inherited the role

The next 6 years or so I stuck around - pay was not brilliant, and there was not a massive amount going on. However I was the goto person in my area, and was always at the centre of anything that did happen. I knew something big would happen to the business but did not know what, or when. What I did know was I wanted to be around whenever it did happen.

It happened in 1996, and again I was at the centre of it. I worked hard (over a 12 month period I had 3 days holiday between XMas and New Year - I also had a day in hospital and was supposed to have the following day off to recover but went in. Over a 3-4 year period I pretty much gave up about 45 days of holiday entitlement.

I was enjoying every minute of it, and my reputation within the business was secure. Over the next 10 years we were involved in many of the largest transactions in the country and I was again at the centre of it all, lapping it all up, continuing to build my reputation and doing very nicely money-wise

There was then perhaps 4 or 5 years of "consolidation" before changes in the global environment in my own field brought fresh and interesting (and in some ways fascinating) changes, which changed my role a bit. I had a major accident which laid me up for a while, but since coming back it's almost been a new lease of life.

I'll probably start winding down in another year or two, before retiring a couple of years after that. Ultimately though I have probably had one of the best jobs I possibly could have in my field of specialism. Yes I was in the right place at the right time, but equally I do feel I managed to make some of my own luck. Would I change any of it? Absolutely not. Yes there were frustrations in the early years, but all-in I've had a very challenging, but more importantly enjoyable, working life

3 annual leave days in a 12 month period leaves a lot to be desired. How did it impact on your personal life?

No regrets about perhaps not making the most of your physical peak years? Or missing out on other things that would be more suited to a younger person?

Do you like working?

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