Do you like working?

ygolometsipe

Since all the robots will be doing the work we might not have jobs for everyone.
Whould you be happy to get 2-3k every month
and no work?

It sounds like a dream to me but I'm surprised by the amount of people that really want a job.

There will be a poll....

KungPao

Some people live to work, to make their mark on the world, make a real difference.

I’m not like that. 2-3k for just being a citizen? Sign me up.

stimpson

I’ve had plenty of shit jobs, but 2 fantastic ones, one of which I’m doing now. If I had a shit one again I’d happily leave it, but I look forward to work now.

pleas advice

I'm happy with €193 every week...

Ulysses Gaze

ygolometsipe wrote: »

Since all the robots will be doing the work we might not have jobs for everyone.
Whould you be happy to get 2-3k every month
and no work?

It sounds like a dream to me but I'm surprised by the amount of people that really want a job.

There will be a poll....

Any research I have seen has between 16% to 20% of employees in Ireland actively engaged with their work. Usually 60% disengaged with their work and the rest so disengaged with their work that they are actively undermining their companies.

If you were to offer 2k-3k per month to stay at home and not work? Well let's just say that the queues out the door in organisations to take that money would terrify HR and Upper management in most companies.

r3nu4l

Make it 5-6 k (net pay) a month and I'd stop working.

The artists at drawing the dole have a high level of job satisfaction I believe

Mountainsandh

My job is important and meaningful, but I would quit in the morning and leave the stress behind. I have so many projects and dreams, and so many other things I'd love to do that I don't think I'd ever miss it, but if I did there are many less taxing things I could do on a voluntary basis that relate to it.

Gorgeousgeorge

I dont like my job but it pays well. But the thoughts of doing noting and having no schedule if that was the case would drive me crooked

Often took a few days off and by say the 4th day i would be crawling the walls if i had not got something planned

Noveight

I give out about work often enough but you've gotta have routine really. A reason to get up in the morning and come home feeling at least a little spent keeps the apathy away, and nothing good ever came from apathy.

cantdecide

If I won the Lotto, I'd volunteer.

I think if I got that kind of income starting tomorrow, I'd be away travelling for a couple of years.

One eyed Jack

ygolometsipe wrote: »

Since all the robots will be doing the work we might not have jobs for everyone.

There will simply be different work to be done than some of the work that exist today is all, rather than no work.

Saying that, I'd always prefer to be working, rather than not. I actually find taking holidays far more stressful, or taking time off work far more stressful, because it disrupts my routine. I tried the whole 'switching off' thing but frankly, like most things, I found it doesn't actually work unless you really want it to. The novelty of not having a proper routine lasts about five minutes for me, money wouldn't even be a consideration.

Jeff2

Here's a'u:' for your post in headline so you have it right and say you.
No need to say thanks as I have loads of them.

ballyharpat

Like has been mentioned, if ypu have a routine-meeting friends for breakfast or coffee, a hobby, walking a dog, these things can be enough to give you purpose and actually enjoy every day that you are not working, you don't want to be getting up late and watching daytime tv-recipe for disaster.

Rubberchikken

I love working. Always have. I really like what im doing now abd i love my wages every fortnight. I love that i can support my home and family and contribute in an essential occupation.

hullaballoo

If I won the lotto, like a life-changing amount, I would still go to work tomorrow.

I love my job. It's a part of me.

Tigger

hullaballoo wrote: »

If I won the lotto, like a life-changing amount, I would still go to work tomorrow.

I love my job. It's a part of me.

What is it

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

I earn decent enough money for what I do. If I had to earn less to do nothing, even 150 less, I'd crack.

Nah, f*ck that.

Austria!

This seems to be more giving data on how many people have stimulating jobs instead of anything else.

Bambi985

My job is exciting and challenging but I'd drop it like a hot potato and sit at home eating cheetos all day if I won the lottery in the morning.

Neames

Very lucky to have a job that pays well that I really enjoy.

I dread the thought of not having work, I would hate the idea of just lazing about.

Even now at 2.20 ....having some difficulty sleeping....I'm really looking forward to work in the morning.

I enjoy time off but am not that person craving for the weekend and getting the Sunday blues.

Graces7

What about us retired folk? No option for us

And sahms?

TG1

I'd keep working, but go back to the career I left because there was no money to be earned. Certainly wouldn't be doing what I do now just for the craic....

Mountainsandh

sugarman wrote: »

Would never give up work voluntarily, even if I won the lotto.

Been both unemployed and out of work on health grounds for months at a time previously and its easy to lose the run of yourself.

Im all about routine and its horrible to slip into an irregular sleeping pattern with no reasons to get up or go to bed early. Not knowing what day is what. Nothing to look forward to, even the little things like working a long, hard week to be able to go out at the end of itk to blow off some steam. All on top of the sense of worth and reward when you achieve something and a pay day comes.

Theres also the social side of it. Getting to chat to colleagues during breaks about xyz, going out for lunch/coffees etc... even after work meet up with other friends. Again, its easy to become a bit isolated from all that.

Dont get me wrong, I dislike work a lot of the time and Im not one to head in early or stay late. Im not career orientated at all. I couldnt give a toss about climbing the career ladder. So long as its a strict 9-5 with decent pay I can make a living from. No more, more less. But I couldnt go without it long term.

You make good arguments and I agree with them but what if you could and did set up your own routine for your own outlets, to be changed whenever you wish ? I know of the many projects I have, most would provide a great sense of worth and achievement, and the social aspect is something that can be catered for in a voluntary or community environment too. Maybe I'm dreaming and it wouldn't happen, but I'd be first in line to give it a try

jiltloop

I hate 5 day weeks. I think it's far too much time to spend working. I have hobbies that I'd love to spend more time on but I just don't have the time or energy after work.

Bambi985

Bambi985 wrote: »

My job is exciting and challenging but I'd drop it like a hot potato and sit at home eating cheetos all day if I won the lottery in the morning.

Me too!

I love my job but if I was guaranteed a nice sum of money every month without having to work for it then bye bye work. Although I would keep a toe dipped in because I'm genuinely interested in the area I'm in, a day a week maybe. Or some volunteering work.
The rest of the time would be spent swanning about the place and sleeping whenever I wanted. The dream!

SEPT 23 1989

I would retire tomorrow not that I don't like working but life is too short to be wasting 50 hours a week doing it

Huntergonzo

Ah look, not working sounds great till you're not, then you're bored fúckin stiff, better off working.

Surely it's better to have the freedom to make your own routine than be stuck to a 9-5 work routine? Use your imagination! Life is short and there are so many things we'll never get to do, if you have financial security I think it's mad to keep working. The exception is if the work is something genuinely fulfilling, but office jobs? No thanks.

Ciaran_B

sugarman wrote: »

Would never give up work voluntarily, even if I won the lotto.

Been both unemployed and out of work on health grounds for months at a time previously and its easy to lose the run of yourself.

Im all about routine and its horrible to slip into an irregular sleeping pattern with no reasons to get up or go to bed early. Not knowing what day is what. Nothing to look forward to, even the little things like working a long, hard week to be able to go out at the end of itk to blow off some steam. All on top of the sense of worth and reward when you achieve something and a pay day comes.

Theres also the social side of it. Getting to chat to colleagues during breaks about xyz, going out for lunch/coffees etc... even after work meet up with other friends. Again, its easy to become a bit isolated from all that.

Dont get me wrong, I dislike work a lot of the time and Im not one to head in early or stay late. Im not career orientated at all. I couldnt give a toss about climbing the career ladder. So long as its a strict 9-5 with decent pay I can make a living from. No more, more less. But I couldnt go without it long term.

100% agree. I was climbing the walls over the Good Friday to Easter Monday 4 day weekend. Isolation and loneliness will destroy you.

Maybe I just need more friends outside of work.

D3V!L

I like my job and when the robots do take over they'll still need me to keep them ticking over.

Hector Savage

stimpson wrote: »

I’ve had plenty of shit jobs, but 2 fantastic ones, one of which I’m doing now. If I had a shit one again I’d happily leave it, but I look forward to work now.

They say when a man finds a job he truly loves, he no longer works.

Fantastic!

job seeker

I'd nearly leave my current job and prefer not to have money. As it makes me feel like driving into oncoming traffic on the way in the morning.

As for the original quistion. Alot depends on your current circumstances. If you are in a job you love, I'm sure anyone would be happy enough to continue working. In any other case, I'd say free money would be the more enticing option..

dan786

It depends on the job. Even if I didnt like it I would prefer to make a living myself rather than sitting home doing nothing.

FizzleSticks

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chrissb8

If you can't go 4 days without work and fill your time then something is wrong in your life. You're obviously not doing anything for yourself. Like having hobbies, friends, things to do. There's so much to do and see just get off your backside and do it. I know people who live for work and they're just pathetic. Really are. No zest for life and are usually boring individuals with tame personalities. Now if work is your passion and pastime...that's a different story. That's a great place to be in.

That said I do feel you need to have something to feel productive in as humans I think we're much happier contributing towards something. I could live without work. I'd just make one of my past times my job as it were. I do like working though as when I do have the time off I feel more inclined to do something with it and enjoy it that much more. Plus I love that feeling of working together towards a goal and being in the "zone" as it were. If someone was to tell me I could make music or write fulltime and get paid a wage I'd definitely take that instead.

CruelCoin

I'd need about 4k nett to consider not working to sustain my current lifestyle.

There are going to be 2 options longterm:

1 - Small group of people own the means of producing the robots that put everyone out of work, they are mega rich, the rest of the world are in mostly abject poverty.
2 - Means of production are socialised, everyone can live on a modest (because socialised anything is never efficient) work-free lifestyle.

Humans being humans, and socialism being ****, it'll be option 1 in the end.

Caliden

It's called work for a reason that's why you get paid to do it.

Hector Savage

CruelCoin wrote: »

I'd need about 4k nett to consider not working to sustain my current lifestyle.

There are going to be 2 options longterm:

1 - Small group of people own the means of producing the robots that put everyone out of work, they are mega rich, the rest of the world are in mostly abject poverty.
2 - Means of production are socialised, everyone can live on a modest (because socialised anything is never efficient) work-free lifestyle.

Humans being humans, and socialism being ****, it'll be option 1 in the end.

Depressingly true

Wanderer78

CruelCoin wrote:

Humans being humans, and socialism being ****, it'll be option 1 in the end.

Or maybe it ll be option 3 or 4 or 5.......

We somehow think the only options on the table are effectively neoliberalism or socialism, what a strange breed we are!

Eponymous

I really enjoy my job, I like where I work and the people I work with.

The fcuking commute though...

CastielJ

well I enjoy my work and the salary, its better then sit at home

ChikiChiki

Project work building workflows that will eventually be ran by robots replacing a lot of FTE. :-(. I don't think governments are doing enough to warn people about what is coming down the track in this area thus many will get caught out.

Do I like it, everyone is sound but to be honest not really. Hate the whole thing of taking work home. I.e, no real close and daily job satisfaction of a good days work done as always thinking of deadlines and schedules. Plus to many meetings meaning difficult to get stuff done during normal business hours.

Honestly thinking of giving it all up to drive as a van courier or even get out labouring on the building sites. Especially out here in Oz where labouring is relatively well paid. Huge financial trade off but theres more to life.

CruelCoin

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Or maybe it ll be option 3 or 4 or 5.......

We somehow think the only options on the table are effectively neoliberalism or socialism, what a strange breed we are!

Why is it always neoliberalism with you? When did plain vanilla capitalism stop being a word?

You always frame your comments along the lines of socialism or "insert vaguely menacing sounding term for the opposite side of the spectrum"

sbsquarepants

As jobs go - mine is OK I suppose. I could do it with my eyes closed, it pays OK and I like most of my colleagues, so it's not like i dread coming in every morning.......but - if by some miracle I was offered my salary to stay home, there's not a snowballs chance I'd come in - I'm far happier at home than I am here. Work is a chore, that's why they have to pay you to do it!

Anyone who wins the lotto and goes back to work should be boiled in a barrel of their own piss:mad:

Trigger Happy

I am going to a self imposed period of unemployment at the moment and I have not been as happy and contented since I was a child. This is my first 'break' from work since 1994.

I will get a new job and hope to get one that gives more money and job satisfaction than I have had before - with less pressure. But there is no question of it - if I had enough money never to work again I would be very happy. So many things I want to do.

Foxhound38

"Like" is a strong word, but I have a strong feeling that my life would fall apart if I stopped working and suddenly had all of this free time for the rest of my life. It's not good for people, I've never seen it be good for people.

Don't get me wrong, it would be great for the first 6 months or so... then I imagine it would get very boring very fast.

sbsquarepants

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, it would be great for the first 6 months or so... then I imagine it would get very boring very fast.

I f you were "unemployed" in the traditional sense of the word then maybe. But with money to spend, give me free time over work obligations every single time!
Personally speaking, I only work to pay bills, I have no trouble filling my days.

carzony

I like work but not the current job i'm in.
I'm actually back Monday after a weeks holiday and all I can think is why I didn't book 2 weeks off.

Wanderer78

CruelCoin wrote: »

Why is it always neoliberalism with you? When did plain vanilla capitalism stop being a word?

You always frame your comments along the lines of socialism or "insert vaguely menacing sounding term for the opposite side of the spectrum"

its important to realise the use of terms such as neoliberalism, the world of capitalism has moved on, and its chosen most predominant form is indeed neoliberalism, and id have to agree with many well respected commentators, that it is one of the main reasons why we re experiencing instabilities within our economic and financial systems. its also important to realise the benefits capitalism has brought to mankind, and id agree with some of these commentators, its here to stay, but we must learn to tame this beast, or it has the potential to completely destroy us. i do think its time for us to move onto another form of capitalism, but we ve become stuck, and many turn this argument into capitalism v's socialism, but that may not be the actual argument at all.

Huntergonzo

chrissb8 wrote: »

If you can't go 4 days without work and fill your time then something is wrong in your life. You're obviously not doing anything for yourself. Like having hobbies, friends, things to do. There's so much to do and see just get off your backside and do it. I know people who live for work and they're just pathetic. Really are. No zest for life and are usually boring individuals with tame personalities. Now if work is your passion and pastime...that's a different story. That's a great place to be in.

That said I do feel you need to have something to feel productive in as humans I think we're much happier contributing towards something. I could live without work. I'd just make one of my past times my job as it were. I do like working though as when I do have the time off I feel more inclined to do something with it and enjoy it that much more. Plus I love that feeling of working together towards a goal and being in the "zone" as it were. If someone was to tell me I could make music or write fulltime and get paid a wage I'd definitely take that instead.

4 days isn't a long time though, it's not even a week off, surely everybody could eaily fill 4 days off work with something worthwhile without getting bored. The problem is when you're 4 weeks, 4 months, 4 years or in some cases 4 decades without work....that's a lot of time to fill and where do you get the money to go places and do things?

Making your past time your work is probably everybodys dream, but that's largely what it is....a dream, the reality is a lot of people don't and will never have that luxury.