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Unisex toilets- yay/nay?

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  • 13-04-2018 02:53AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Sorry if this thread has been done before, I don't remember one.
    After watching The Cutting Edge debate on the concept of a one stop jacks for all, it got me thinking how comfortable I'd be sharing toilet space with you male species (I'm the drip dry gender in case you're wondering).
    Vogue Williams states she'd be OK with it because although the space would be communal, everyone has their own cubicle.
    I'm against the idea for the following reasons:

    1. Safety. Especially in pub/nightclub scenarios when people are drunk/on the harder stuff. You could be vulnerable to a sexual assault in an area which is I assume is out of bounds for security.

    2. Promiscuity. It could become the cheap option for a hookup without the hotel bill. Who wants to be in the stall beside that?

    3. Privacy. What woman would feel comfortable trying to quietly change her sanitary wear knowing there's a man on the other side of the stall?
    What man wants to use the condom machine when the woman he's banking on bringing home could walk in?
    Would women feel comfortable fixing their hair/make-up/twisted bra strap in a mirror with a bloke's reflection in the background?

    4. Finally, hygiene. Do I really want to use a cubicle after Mick from accounts who has been on the Guinness since 4pm has been in there?

    Yay or nay for you, drip-dry and shake-dry people?

    To thine own self be true



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,764 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Nay because it'll likely reduce urinal availability and slow everything down. Other than that don't really care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,935 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    1. Safety. Especially in pub/nightclub scenarios when people are drunk/on the harder stuff. You could be vulnerable to a sexual assault in an area which is I assume is out of bounds for security.
    Surely one is more likely to suffer such an assault somewhere one is with less people, not more?
    an area which is I assume is out of bounds for security.
    Why would this be?
    2. Promiscuity. It could become the cheap option for a hookup without the hotel bill. Who wants to be in the stall beside that?
    Some people do that anyway.
    3. Privacy. What woman would feel comfortable trying to quietly change her sanitary wear knowing there's a man on the other side of the stall?
    How is anyone going to know what she is doing?
    4. Finally, hygiene. Do I really want to use a cubicle after Mick from accounts who has been on the Guinness since 4pm has been in there?
    Previous comments on boards are that female toilets are on average worse than male toilets.


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sorry if this thread has been done before, I don't remember one.
    After watching The Cutting Edge debate on the concept of a one stop jacks for all, it got me thinking how comfortable I'd be sharing toilet space with you male species (I'm the drip dry gender in case you're wondering).
    Vogue Williams states she'd be OK with it because although the space would be communal, everyone has their own cubicle.
    I'm against the idea for the following reasons:

    1. Safety. Especially in pub/nightclub scenarios when people are drunk/on the harder stuff. You could be vulnerable to a sexual assault in an area which is I assume is out of bounds for security.

    2. Promiscuity. It could become the cheap option for a hookup without the hotel bill. Who wants to be in the stall beside that?

    3. Privacy. What woman would feel comfortable trying to quietly change her sanitary wear knowing there's a man on the other side of the stall?
    What man wants to use the condom machine when the woman he's banking on bringing home could walk in?
    Would women feel comfortable fixing their hair/make-up/twisted bra strap in a mirror with a bloke's reflection in the background?

    4. Finally, hygiene. Do I really want to use a cubicle after Mick from accounts who has been on the Guinness since 4pm has been in there?

    Yay or nay for you, drip-dry and shake-dry people?


    Absolutely completely against this daft idea of shared toilets. If its not broken dont fix it. A few leftist retards are pushing this agenda on us because they are running out of ways to fill the days of their sad pathetic little lives.

    I wouldn't presently feel comfortable for one going to the toilet in a cubicle even when there is a male presence nearby let alone a female one. Is anything sacred anymore or do stupid people just want to continuously come up with ways of setting the world ablaze and enjoying it burn? :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Slunk


    Pretty much as victor said. But also as tip gunner. Piss wherever you want, just dont waste money converting or installing additional toilets.  Just leave things alone. "outrage"  has turned into a few saps on twitter.
    Sure theres a unisex jacks in your home already :P


  • Posts: 24,286 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Slunk wrote: »
    Pretty much as victor said. Sure theres a unisex jacks in your home already :P

    Yes but everyone isnt in it at once id bet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    I'm an equal-opportunity-piss-all-over-the-seater person meself. Couldn't care less who is coming in after me. Deal with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,244 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    At least one publican I know is all in favour of the idea for the simple reason that there will be only one room on the premises rather than two. He reckons he'd save a fortune over the course of the year on cleaning costs. One of the regulars suggested he'd lose it having hose down and paint the outside wall with the number of lads using it when the cubicles were in use all night by the ladies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Sure aren't most Male toilets Unisex once the first person leaves the queue for the Ladies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Unisex
    [Noun]
    What the students do be getting up to between lectures.


    According to numerous porn research sites


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Sure aren't most Male toilets Unisex once the first person leaves the queue for the Ladies.

    I thought it was only women who did that!

    To thine own self be true



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I can't remember what city I was in- possibly Nice, and it was my only encounter with a unisex toilet.
    My guard was up and I literally ran in and out.
    It was a weird feeling.
    Yes of course at home we share bathrooms but with strangers it's different.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Will there be troughs/urinals for men to stand and pee? If so, would women be happy seeing dripping knobs being shook? Also, will there be really strong ventilation for beer soaked crap fumes?

    Personally, as a male, I couldn't give a damn if there was a woman in the next stall changing her monthly stuff or a trans applying makeup at the mirror but they better not complain about the smell of day old Guinness. If they do then they are sexist :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    FanadMan wrote: »
    Will there be troughs/urinals for men to stand and pee? If so, would women be happy seeing dripping knobs being shook? Also, will there be really strong ventilation for beer soaked crap fumes?

    Personally, as a male, I couldn't give a damn if there was a woman in the next stall changing her monthly stuff or a trans applying makeup at the mirror but they better not complain about the smell of day old Guinness. If they do then they are sexist :D

    Urinals are just breeding ground for filth and germs imo.
    They should be banned for men's toilets never mind unisex ones.
    I still shudder remembering the few times as a student and bursting to pee, sneaking into the men's. The smell from the urinal cesspit would sober you up and fast!

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I thought i wouldnt care either way but the more i think about it the more i think i might worry about safety. Not for myself. Im well able to look after myself. But what about teen girls/young women/a vunerable female? Would it always be safe for them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,144 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Victor wrote: »

    How is anyone going to know what she is doing?

    If you've found a way to silently open a tampon or sanitary towel wrapper please let us know. Ditto on removing the previous one from your underwear without making a sound. Oh wait, you're a man and have no clue what you're talking about. Everyone knows. I feel self conscious enough when it's only women, if there were guys in there I just wouldn't do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    There's one in the Lighthouse Cinema. Feels weird tbh. You could cut the tension in there with a knife. I was in it recently waiting for a cubicle and the noises coming from one of the stalls were disgusting. I was sure some truck driver was going to emerge but no, a total babe walked out. I was shocked for a few moments, didn't know what to make of it, but then I naturally started fapping like a mad man.

    The Loose Women give their two cents...........



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    On these threads someone always says something like "my bathroom at home is unisex" or "you don't worry about not having male and female toilets in your house do you".

    To preempt that, only one person at a time uses the bathroom in my house. I tend not to invite women around around so we can defecate and urinate next to each other. Nor do I go around to my female friends houses and walk into their bathroom while they're on the toilet saying "can you move over there, I'm desperate for a shite".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Where I live, lucky to find any toilets. Bushes and ruined houses are grand ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    No problem with them at all.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,913 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    It's all about tolerance and being right-on until some lad staggers in with a gallon and a half of Harp on board and backs out a load into the ceramic urinal....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,384 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    What always suprises me about this debate when it pops up, is the vehemence of certain cohorts in denouncing it.

    Its almost as of every home in the country has single sex toilets...
    God forbid theres ever a return to Outhouses!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    The jacks is the one place we can go on a night out to get away from the fairer gender...don’t take that away.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Mara Quaint Pocketful


    Yea/nay
    I vote nay anyway, I like things the way they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Time would be a major factor. Flash (the sloth from Zootropolis) is faster than any woman in a bathroom.

    Also.... there are 3 billion women in the world... None of them are the same. So why should their pads be?

    As a result, we will need vending machines capable of hosting 3 billion different tailored pads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,316 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The line often used in these threads is I always had a unisex toilet at home. It's different in public in my opinion.
    Some smaller shops/business only have one toilet. You go in and do your business in private and leave. Most people I know have no issue with this set up.
    I've being to clubs/shopping centers/etc and most men go in do their business/wash their hands and leave. Women tough in my experience can spend ages between sanitary ware in the cubicle and then hair/make up at the sink/mirror. Guys in my experience don't want to do this. This is why there's nearly always a queue for the ladies.
    On night my female friends also went to toilets for a private chat and the odd time to get away from a guy who was coming on to heavy. Guys can also go just avoid a woman for a few minutes.
    I did clean hotel toilets before women one's were generally messier. Due to make-up stains/and sanitary ware. Whilst the guys might have a bit of piss on the floor but that's easily wiped up. But toilets in shopping centers are cleaned a lot more than the past.
    I don't think urinals should be banned I know some say put them behind a wall but a woman could easily get exposed in a night club situation. Even if the urinal was behind a wall. They'd be a lot off hassle in a very busy night club if there was only cubicles.
    Now is a business/public/state buildings want to install unisex toilets. I've no issue with this but I think they should install ladies and gents also.
    One thing I don't like is disabled/accessibility toilets being turned into unisex/transgender toilets. These toilets are in place for people who may be in a wheel chair, have issues with joints,need assistance for carers/people with a condition such as crohns disease. I don't like this precedent being set.


  • Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was in a pub in England which had unisex toilets. The story was that someone had been told that the toilets there were unusual but hadn't been told what it was.
    He landed up to the toilet saw the big round steel urinal out in the middle and thought it was odd but did his business. It was the sink.
    The urinal was around a corner.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,493 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Unisex toilets at the cliffs of moher visitor center. And I don't mean pissing over the edge. Didn't think too much of it, the woman after me though might have been poisoned.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Plenty of unisex toilets dotted around Yorkshire when I was living there. This was over 10 years ago at this point. Didn't seem to be a big issue and the whole doing makeup/taking up space and time seemed to be reduced somewhat.

    I used to do bar work and after the doors were closed the female toilets were usually in a worse state than the mens. Yes men piss all over the place but some hot water, a big mop and bleach sorts that easily.

    Leaving bog roll, sanitary towels and Christ knows what else all over the floor is a much harder cleanup.

    When I covered in bars that had more metal heads, the toilets were always in a much better state than a shirts and dresses type bar. Make of that what you will.

    Anyway, unisex toilets. Don't think they should be mandatory or anything but I don't mind using one if that's what is available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I HATE public toilets and avoid whenever I can. YUKk1!1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,273 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Unisex toilets on planes, this is an outrage.

    Someone should do something.


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