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The 8th Amendment Part 2 - Mod Warning in OP

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  • #3992
    amdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    thee glitz wrote: »
    It's quite interesting to extract the posts and visualise it. One poster had 18 comments in this thread alone one day.

    You sound quite judgemental.

    Funny that


  • #3993
    Triceratops Ballet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    thee glitz wrote: »
    It's quite interesting to extract the posts and visualise it. One poster had 18 comments in this thread alone one day.

    so? some people have a lot of time on their hands!


  • #3994
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    thee glitz wrote:
    It's quite interesting to extract the posts and visualise it. One poster had 18 comments in this thread alone one day.


    Yet you took the time to count?


  • #3995
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    amdublin wrote: »
    thee glitz wrote: »
    It's quite interesting to extract the posts and visualise it. One poster had 18 comments in this thread alone one day.

    You sound quite judgemental.

    Funny that

    You'll have to appreciate the irony there...
    Triceratops Ballet wrote: »
    so? some people have a lot of time on their hands!

    Well yes, I can see that! It's interesting what insights you can get from a semi-structured dataset if nothing else.
    Ave Sodalis wrote: »
    Yet you took the time to count?

    I didn't actually count them, but built a little thing to do most of the work.
    Sentiment analysis would be interesting too, and moreso justifiable if I use any of it for a college project.


  • #3996
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    thee glitz wrote: »
    You'll have to appreciate the irony there...



    Well yes, I can see that! It's interesting what insights you can get from a semi-structured dataset if nothing else.



    I didn't actually count them, but built a little thing to do most of the work.
    Sentiment analysis would be interesting too, and moreso justifiable if I use any of it for a college project.


    You cannot serious judge people for posting more than once a day when you have taken the time to actually count out people's posts... worse that you "built a little thing" to do it


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  • #3997
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Ave Sodalis wrote: »
    You cannot serious judge people for posting more than once a day when you have taken the time to actually count out people's posts... worse that you "built a little thing" to do it

    I'm not at all - there's a similar thread here somewhere where I've at least 120 posts. I don't think anyone's got that many here yet, not far off though.

    If you're interested in more than a handful of users (and I'm not specifically interested in any), it's quicker to automate it. As I hinted at, I'm currently studying analytics.


  • #3998
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    thee glitz wrote: »
    I'm not at all - there's a similar thread here somewhere where I've at least 120 posts. I don't think anyone's got that many here yet, not far off though.

    If you're interested in more than a handful of users (and I'm not specifically interested in any), it's quicker to automate it. As I hinted at, I'm currently studying analytics.

    Where, Cambridge? (Harhar, I made a funny.)


  • #3999
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    thee glitz wrote: »
    It's quite interesting to extract the posts and visualise it. One poster had 18 comments in this thread alone one day.

    This is seriously petty. Luckily, it nakedly comes across that way.


  • #4000
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Was it me? Please let it have been me!


  • #4001
    bertieinexile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭bertieinexile


    For those joining us late...

    I put up a video of a 23 week old premature baby.
    https://youtu.be/2RQ8ks-UH0E?t=22s
    I said he is now a healthy 3 year old. You can even look up the parents account on youtube and see video of him playing.

    nozzferraahhtoo said that
    ....if a mother in the UK decided, after it's removal from her womb not to put it on life support and to let it die...... then I would not be losing any sleep over it.
    I asked how much support there was for that view among the pro choice posters on here

    And I am shocked that
    ELM327 (thanked by captbarnacles), Poster ...., (thanked by erica74), Professor Plum, (thanked by baylah17, January, Madscientist30, SusieBlue) and January (thanked by baylah17, ProfessorPlum) have all said they agree.

    ELM327 wrote:
    I agree with the post, I would not lose sleep over it.
    .... wrote:
    I certainly wouldnt lose any sleep over it.

    ProfessorPlum wrote:
    Ok - to be clear - you are asking if people would be comfortable with the idea of withdrawing life support for a baby born at 22weeks?

    If that’s the question, well then of course the answer is yes. That is a very reasonable course of action, and I would support any parent if that was their choice.

    In fact it is policy in several countries not to resuscitate extremely premature infants. In countries where it is not a direct policy, in most circumstances, it is an option given to parents of extremely premature infants not to provide supportive measures, just ‘comfort care’. I fully agree with this scenario.
    January wrote:
    I'd also have absolutely no problem with it either for the same reasons stated above by Professor Plum.


    nozzferrahhtoo was thanked for his original statement by
    Call me Al, crustybla, DubInMeath, Fizzlesque, frag420, January, PopePalpatine, Simi, swampgas and Yeah_Right

    So far January is the only one of those we have heard from (DubInMeath is away)

    Maybe this is just the very extreme end of the pro choice view.

    Is there any other pro choice poster on here ready to agree that you shouldn't lose sleep over someone taking the life of that child hooked up to tubes in that incubator.

    I am fascinated by what response we will have had by tomorrow afternoon.


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  • #4002
    thee glitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    thee glitz wrote: »
    It's quite interesting to extract the posts and visualise it. One poster had 18 comments in this thread alone one day.

    This is seriously petty. Luckily, it nakedly comes across that way.

    That's not what I was going for at all. Not sure how I've upset anyone.
    January wrote: »
    Was it me? Please let it have been me!

    No names! I don't know what your stats are but it's very easy for anyone to find out - I just did it for a few posters for proof of concept.


  • #4003
    frag420
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    amdublin wrote: »
    They're not flimsy paper posters like! My dad has a couple from a referendum a few years ago patching a hole on his shed roof!

    #RepealTheRain


  • #4004
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    January wrote: »
    Was it me? Please let it have been me!

    15 posts in your first day (24 hours) on the thread,

    search/submit/?user=100029&thread=2057852825&sort=oldest


  • #4005
    Reati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    Have to pro life camp literally bought every web ad they can.

    I'm being bombarded with save the 8th ads everywhere, on every site and app I visit. Seriously if I see another image of an unborn fetus...


  • #4006
    frag420
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    You actually counted people’s thanks...really?

    Get a life or get laid but do something other than geeking about on people’s posts!

    And in case you’re wondering I am all for repealing the 8th, I trust women to make the right decision and wait for it, waaait for it......I have paid for three abortions in the last ten years for women I didn’t make pregnant, they were friends who found themselves in a situation they couldn’t handle and because they could not get the help they required in Ireland they had to go to the UK and I’m proud to say I helped them and I will do it again if needed!

    bertieinexile wrote: »
    For those joining us late...

    I put up a video of a 23 week old premature baby.
    https://youtu.be/2RQ8ks-UH0E?t=22s
    I said he is now a healthy 3 year old. You can even look up the parents account on youtube and see video of him playing.

    nozzferraahhtoo said that
    I asked how much support there was for that view among the pro choice posters on here

    And I am shocked that
    ELM327 (thanked by captbarnacles), Poster ...., (thanked by erica74), Professor Plum, (thanked by baylah17, January, Madscientist30, SusieBlue) and January (thanked by baylah17, ProfessorPlum) have all said they agree.












    nozzferrahhtoo was thanked for his original statement by
    Call me Al, crustybla, DubInMeath, Fizzlesque, frag420, January, PopePalpatine, Simi, swampgas and Yeah_Right

    So far January is the only one of those we have heard from (DubInMeath is away)

    Maybe this is just the very extreme end of the pro choice view.

    Is there any other pro choice poster on here ready to agree that you shouldn't lose sleep over someone taking the life of that child hooked up to tubes in that incubator.

    I am fascinated by what response we will have had by tomorrow afternoon.


  • #4007
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hey Bertie, great to have you back again!
    Any chance you could answer some questions instead of posting the same thing over & over again?


  • #4008
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    frag420 wrote: »
    You actually counted people’s thanks...really?

    its listed under the post, (not this one, obviously, but others)


  • #4009
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Reati wrote: »
    Have to pro life camp literally bought every web ad they can.

    I'm being bombarded with save the 8th ads everywhere, on every site and app I visit. Seriously if I see another image of an unborn fetus...

    ads are based on search / browsing history...


  • #4010
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    bertieinexile wrote: »

    Is there any other pro choice poster on here ready to agree that you shouldn't lose sleep over someone taking the life of that child hooked up to tubes in that incubator.

    I am fascinated by what response we will have had by tomorrow afternoon.

    If the best course of action, as decided by the mother (and father) of the child, and their doctors is not to proceed with support, and provide comfort care instead, I'm ok with that.

    Jesus, it's not an easy decision for anyone to make, but it's their decision.

    This isn't hate, this isn't dehumanising, it's having a bit of empathy for those involved.

    And you keep banging on about that child that was scanned at 22 weeks, and is now a 3 year old. Cool, absolutely delighted for them. I doubt there's anyone here that isn't.

    Noone is asking for MANDATORY abortions, but anyone that finds themselves in a difficult position should have necessary care available to them.


  • #4011
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    bertieinexile wrote: »
    For those joining us late...

    I put up a video of a 23 week old premature baby.
    https://youtu.be/2RQ8ks-UH0E?t=22s
    I said he is now a healthy 3 year old. You can even look up the parents account on youtube and see video of him playing.

    nozzferraahhtoo said that
    I asked how much support there was for that view among the pro choice posters on here

    And I am shocked that
    ELM327 (thanked by captbarnacles), Poster ...., (thanked by erica74), Professor Plum, (thanked by baylah17, January, Madscientist30, SusieBlue) and January (thanked by baylah17, ProfessorPlum) have all said they agree.












    nozzferrahhtoo was thanked for his original statement by
    Call me Al, crustybla, DubInMeath, Fizzlesque, frag420, January, PopePalpatine, Simi, swampgas and Yeah_Right

    So far January is the only one of those we have heard from (DubInMeath is away)

    Maybe this is just the very extreme end of the pro choice view.

    Is there any other pro choice poster on here ready to agree that you shouldn't lose sleep over someone taking the life of that child hooked up to tubes in that incubator.

    I am fascinated by what response we will have had by tomorrow afternoon.

    I don't think it's extreme in supporting parents in withdrawing life support of that's what the wish to do. I'd support any adult making the same decision for their next of kin if that's what they decided was best.


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  • #4012
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    bertieinexile wrote:
    For those joining us late...
    bertieinexile wrote:
    I put up a video of a 23 week old premature baby.
    Why do you keep spouting the same thing over and over.

    You're just trying to emotionally maniputalte anyone who will listen.

    What does it matter who thanked what post over a hypothetical question you asked.


  • #4013
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    January wrote: »
    I don't think it's extreme in supporting parents in withdrawing life support of that's what the wish to do.

    At 23 weeks, 4 out of 5 will die anyway. 30% of survivors will have major disability - blindness, cerebral palsy, severe mental issues.

    I would not argue with parents who decide not to try it.


  • #4014
    ProfessorPlum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    bertieinexile wrote: »
    Maybe this is just the very extreme end of the pro choice view.

    Is there any other pro choice poster on here ready to agree that you shouldn't lose sleep over someone taking the life of that child hooked up to tubes in that incubator.

    I am fascinated by what response we will have had by tomorrow afternoon.

    It’s not an ‘extreme pro choice’ view. In fact it has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion, or this debate.

    It’s the ‘standard medical practice’ view.
    If you knew anything at all about the care of extremely preterm neonates you might understand why.
    If you’d ever set foot inside a NICU and seen what the care of these babies entails you might understand why.


  • #4015
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    bertieinexile wrote: »
    For those joining us late...

    I put up a video of a 23 week old premature baby.
    https://youtu.be/2RQ8ks-UH0E?t=22s
    I said he is now a healthy 3 year old. You can even look up the parents account on youtube and see video of him playing.

    nozzferraahhtoo said that
    I asked how much support there was for that view among the pro choice posters on here

    And I am shocked that
    ELM327 (thanked by captbarnacles), Poster ...., (thanked by erica74), Professor Plum, (thanked by baylah17, January, Madscientist30, SusieBlue) and January (thanked by baylah17, ProfessorPlum) have all said they agree.












    nozzferrahhtoo was thanked for his original statement by
    Call me Al, crustybla, DubInMeath, Fizzlesque, frag420, January, PopePalpatine, Simi, swampgas and Yeah_Right

    So far January is the only one of those we have heard from (DubInMeath is away)

    Maybe this is just the very extreme end of the pro choice view.

    Is there any other pro choice poster on here ready to agree that you shouldn't lose sleep over someone taking the life of that child hooked up to tubes in that incubator.

    I am fascinated by what response we will have had by tomorrow afternoon.

    I have no problem with that

    I do have a problem with you naming & attempting to shame posters for thanking nozzferrahhtoo's post though.


  • #4016
    captbarnacles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭captbarnacles


    He's shaming no-one but don't quote his nonsense because it gives it oxygen it doesn't deserve.


  • #4017
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    ProfessorPlum wrote: »
    It’s not an ‘extreme pro choice’ view. In fact it has nothing whatsoever to do with abortion, or this debate.

    Exactly and using the issue of premmie babies to push a pro life agenda is ****ing disgraceful and is a typical pro life propaganda tactic.As is putting pictures of babies in incubators on posters.

    It’s the ‘standard medical practice’ view.
    If you knew anything at all about the care of extremely preterm neonates you might understand why.
    If you’d ever set foot inside a NICU and seen what the care of these babies entails you might understand why.

    Ive been there.My wifes waters broke at 22 weeks and managed to hold on until 28.Our daughter was born at 28 weeks and just 2lb.Shes now 20.

    Guess what?We are still both pro choice and had we been told at 22 weeks there wasn't any hope we would probably have wished for a way to end the suffering that my wife went through for those extra 6 weeks.

    Heres a post that I made a year ago in response to someone bringing premature babies into the argument.
    I still stand by it today.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103337536&postcount=980


  • #4018
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    captbarnacles wrote: »
    He's shaming no-one but don't quote his nonsense because it gives it oxygen it doesn't deserve.

    Which is why I said attempting to shame:)


  • #4019
    Reati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    pleas advice wrote: »
    ads are based on search / browsing history...

    Not being smart but seen as I've little to no interest in the 8th amendment and this thread is the extent of my browsing history on the topic due to the fact it was top of trending when I saw the ad (and given I have do not track set and addins to block tracking) that's I doubt it's the case. I'd actually guess it's demographic targeting for my age profile, gender and IP location.

    Still my point is valid. They have bought up a **** ton of impressions and that is not cheap on such a generic scale. It's interesting with all the talk of election interference these days to see who is funding and buying all those impressions. I'd beat a dime you'd see a few American interests buying them up.


  • #4020
    NuMarvel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭NuMarvel


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    Kinda shows the disparity in financing, from the get go, the No posters were up and all over the country the morning after their campaign went "live", whereas Repeal posters are still rare, and relies on crowdfunding.

    It's been that way for years really. The anti-repeal side has always had the money for professionally designed flyers and posters, and in enough quantities to hand out to everyone at all their marches. The pro choice side on the other hand has always relied on marches and supporters doing their own posters, which is reflective of its grass roots origins.

    This picture sums it up nicely, because something tells me the gentleman in the picture didn't make that sign at home.

    image.jpg


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  • #4021
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭circadian


    The emotional manipulation and attempted guilt tripping from some in this thread is vile. It's completely dishonest and you're using others misery, hypothetical or not, to further your own agenda. I honestly find it hard that you actually care about those people you're using to try and pull heart strings.

    No better than the pricks around the place with graphic images of aborted fetuses, wearing bodycams and provoking negative responses from people to use in their propaganda.

    I sincerely hope the majority of people in this country are capable of critical thinking and can make a decision, either yes or no, without basing it on this horse****.


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