Irish woman gang raped by 6 men in Czech hotel

irishrebe wrote: »

I often stay in hostel dorms when I travel and sometimes there are men in them. Am I and all the other women who do the same putting ourselves in danger for not assuming every man is a potential rapist? .

IMHO Yes.

Ive been travelling alone and staying in hostels for 30 years on and off.

I would never stay in a mixed dorm if i was on my own or even travelling with only one other woman. Countries where i have applied this policy include Australia, fiji, Ireland and many more.


The vast majority of men aren't rapists. But all it takes is one who has lowered inhibitions due to alcohol. Id rather take basic precautions to avoid the situation.

2 Scoops wrote: »

Oh dear

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/swedish-music-festivals-hit-by-reports-of-rapes-by-migrants/

"An anonymous 15-year-old girl told Expressen newspaper that no fewer than five of her six friends had been sexually molested by “foreign youths” during the Karlstad event.

A man had come up behind her and started grinding against her, she said. A young man had groped one of her friends through her jeans.

Alexandra Larsson, 17, told MailOnline that she had not seen exactly who had assaulted her at Putte i Parken.

She stressed, however, that that the group of 18-19 year old boys standing behind her were “not from a Swedish background”."

This does not negate my point, rape at festivals is a major issue. Eg this is on British festivals... Generally white British men were perpetrators in cited instances.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11822420/Bestival-UK-music-festivals-have-a-rape-problem-that-needs-action-now.html

Further in relation to Swedish story. So you're literally using reports that later came out as inaccurate of the actual reality. You'll no doubt claim this to be a cover up.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/jul/06/swedish-festival-rapes-migrants-wrong-dangerous

Except it turned out that there was doubt. Within a few hours the statement had been taken down.

The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents. There’s even less evidence to suggest the rapes at Bravalla were carried out by immigrants – but the two were instantly lumped together. “The wording was unfortunate,” read a second statement, “and we will take that to heart.”
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In a more measured statement following the weekend’s attacks, Swedish police admitted that “the descriptions [of perpetrators] are diverse”. There is, they said, just one common denominator: “These are all young men.” However much we try and twist the narrative, there is no homogenous, easily recognisable perpetrator of violence – least of all at festivals. The sooner we realise that, the sooner we might be able to stop it from happening

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Giving advice? Who am I giving advice to? I'm stating my opinion on the subject, just as you are.

So you're concerned about personal responsibility being characterized as victim blaming when it should be characterized as safety advice yet you're not giving any advice just stating an opinion...... Right.

And yet, you protest when posters highlight the risks involved and suggest that people should be more careful.

Wait are you suggesting that people be more careful or just stating an opinion. Which is it now?

I'm not aware that the victim of the assault is either posting or lurking on this thread.

I'd say there's a few victims of assault reading this. I don't think anyone could read the vast majority of "advice" on this thread which strangely takes the form of "what did she expect....." (Doesn't sound very advisory to me) without thinking that victims are being blamed for their own assaults.

2 Scoops wrote: »

If only they'd release immigrant crime statistics to solve this awful prejudiced media defamation.

For whatever reason, they won't.

You've been shown to be wrong... You attributed rapes at music festivals to be an issue of migrants. It is not and I don't think you really care tbh otherwise you would be highlighting the general issue of rape rather than picking which ones matter to you.

2 Scoops wrote: »

Incorrect, Swedish gov refuses to release crime statistics detailing ethnicity for obvious reasons. Show me statistics that proves it's not due to migrants, they don't exist.

I'm not incorrect... You cited an early report from a festival, it was later found to be inaccurate. You also ignore that rapes at festivals go back decades. It's an incredibly serious issue that you've reduced to racist catcalling.

Most women are raped by someone they know.

So should women not go anywhere?

Or should we seriously put funding into education into this area, funding, research, structure for sexual assault victims, and consequences in each country for sexual assaulters.

Each country needs to tackle this seriously.

Education,
Support
And serious consequences.

She was raped by six men from Algeria who's culture influenced by their religion encourages them to think all Western women are slags, ready for the taking. These men have been let loose on the women of Europe by Merkel etc. The media and judiciary in Western Europe follow a template to under report or minimise these crimes in the name of diversity. History will be a harsh judge.

Mutant z wrote: »

The followers of the religion of peace treat these women like pieces of meat its best for European women to not get romantically involved with them.

It is so great that our religion in ireland treats women so well then.

Deleted User wrote: »

I can't speak for worldwide but in this country I'd start by ignoring hashtag movements and trying to discourage women as seeing themselves as perpetual victims and get rid of the toxic brand of feminism that dilutes the term rape to an everyday event rather than the disgusting and horrific act that it is. That'd be a good start.

I would put education into place in all schools.
I would put serious consequences into place. There is only one reason why some men do it right now - is because they think they can get away with it. It is not treated seriously enough. simple as.

pitifulgod wrote: »

This does not negate my point, rape at festivals is a major issue.
The police later admitted that only two of the seven men or boys arrested for the Putte i Parken incidents were from HVB homes – residential homes for young people, often refugees without parents.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what percentage of the Swedish population are residents of HVB homes?

And what percentage of these "men or boys" (great term that) have been charged with a crime since arriving in Sweden?

If we knew these things, we (and more importantly the Swedish population) could make factual assessments of risk, but of course we don't and won't know these things because, well, because we might make factual assessments of risk....