So,Infinity.

Gwynplaine · 02-04-2018 09:54PM

"Infinity plus 2 Billy"

Avatar MIA · 02-04-2018 09:59PM

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

Imagine a steel ball the size of Earth.

Once every ten million years a fly alights on the ball.

When that ball has worn away to nothing by friction from the fly - infinity hasn't even started yet.

The steel ball will have long disintegrated from entropy before the fly can take full effect, but I get your point.

Malayalam · 03-04-2018 05:59AM

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

Imagine a steel ball the size of Earth.

Once every ten million years a fly alights on the ball.

When that ball has worn away to nothing by friction from the fly - infinity hasn't even started yet.

That reminds me of a Buddhist reincarnation story. If a large mountain was to be stroked with a fine silk cloth once every thousand years, the amount of time it would take for the mountain to be worn away flat is the amount of time it takes to gain a precious human existence. (ie rare)

They loved their ginormous numbers in the old days. The Vedic and Buddhist scriptures are full of shockingly long time frames. I am sure other world cosmologies contain big numbers too. A single breath of Brahma or Vishnu, for example, takes about 310 billion years, and each exhalation creates billions of Universes, which are demolished on the inhalation (expansion and contraction a la Big Bang). Maybe we just lack imagination with our puny numbers, relatively short cosmologies and conceptions of spans of time?

pleas advice · 03-04-2018 08:22AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

It can fit the guests of an infinite number of buses each of which can hold an infinity of people and still have rooms over.

So, you're saying it can hold more than sixty characters?

valoren · 03-04-2018 08:40AM

Here's my key....philosophy.
A freak like me, just needs infinity....

*infinite sax solo*

Hector Savage · 03-04-2018 10:58AM

Some mathematician didn't believe in infinity, in his mind there was some massive number and the next number just rolled over to 0 .... total ****e really, i don't know how he escaped the argument that no matter how big you could +1 to it ... .

SimonTemplar · 03-04-2018 12:38PM

I know it is tough to keep track of that stuff, so here goes:

The Space Stone - Blue - AKA The Tesseract. Now with Loki.

The Mind Stone - Yellow - Was in Loki's scepter. Now in Vision's forehead.

The Power Stone - Purple - Was in the orb Quill took at the start of Guardians. New being stored at Nova Corps (the planet at the end of that film).

The Reality Stone - Red - AKA The Aether. Was in Natalie Portman (giggity!). Currently being stored by The Collector (Benico Del Toro).

The Time Stone - Green - Currently in Doctor Strange's Eye of Agamotto amulet.

The Soul Stone - Unseen so far. Probably being held in Wakanda.

Avatar MIA · 03-04-2018 12:55PM

Malayalam wrote: »

They loved their ginormous numbers in the old days. The Vedic and Buddhist scriptures are full of shockingly long time frames. I am sure other world cosmologies contain big numbers too. A single breath of Brahma or Vishnu, for example, takes about 310 billion years, and each exhalation creates billions of Universes, which are demolished on the inhalation (expansion and contraction a la Big Bang). Maybe we just lack imagination with our puny numbers, relatively short cosmologies and conceptions of spans of time?

Is that relatively recent, how long ago were they talking about multiple universes? Or is that a modern interpretation?

BrokenArrows · 03-04-2018 01:28PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

He’s saying that the expansion due to the Big Bang will slow or stop and gravity will continue to exist as an attractive force and therefore the universe will contract.

Perfectly sound in theory but the observations don’t show that the expansion is slowing, instead it is accelerating.

If the current observations shows that expansion is accelerating then that just means the universe is still in the process of exploding.

Eventually it will slow down and stop followed by a contraction.

But the human race will not be around to see that so i really wouldnt worry about it.

The universe is estimated to be 13.8 Billion years old.
The earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old.
The earth has held life for around 4 billion years.
Humanoid species have existed for around 6 million years.
Homosapiens (current humans) have existed for about 200,000 years.
The industrial world has only existed for ~250 years!
The internet was only made public 27 years ago!

Time is huge. Humans have only existed on this planet for 0.005% of earths existence. We could be wiped out and a new species equal to us could evolve in another 0.005% of time and thats still only 0.010% of the time that this planet has been capable of holding life.

Malayalam · 03-04-2018 01:42PM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Is that relatively recent, how long ago were they talking about multiple universes? Or is that a modern interpretation?

Hard to say. I am no expert. The writings in for example the Vedas and Puranas were based on much older oral traditions and the writings are being modified since early centuries CE to several hundred years ago. They had cool ideas aka philosophies based around maths, investigating things like zero, one and infinity from a very long time ago. Can't google and type on this ancient phone but you should be able to find stuff.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2018 11:43PM

BrokenArrows wrote: »

If the current observations shows that expansion is accelerating then that just means the universe is still in the process of exploding.

That’s not the case. For something to keep accelerating a force must be continually applied.

The inflationary force from the Big Bang has long gone. Physicists now call this hidden force/energy Dark Energy.

Eventually it will slow down and stop followed by a contraction.

That’s not certain either.

But the human race will not be around to see that so i really wouldnt worry about it.

The universe is estimated to be 13.8 Billion years old.
The earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old.
The earth has held life for around 4 billion years.
Humanoid species have existed for around 6 million years.
Homosapiens (current humans) have existed for about 200,000 years.
The industrial world has only existed for ~250 years!
The internet was only made public 27 years ago!

Time is huge. Humans have only existed on this planet for 0.005% of earths existence. We could be wiped out and a new species equal to us could evolve in another 0.005% of time and thats still only 0.010% of the time that this planet has been capable of holding life.

You know I think everybody knows that. However you don’t know how long humanity has. We remain at risk on this planet. If we get off we could see out a few billion years. Probably we won’t.

chuky_r_law · 03-04-2018 11:48PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

It's just a very big number

+1

bodhrandude · 03-04-2018 11:55PM

Toodle Poops.

Capt'n Midnight · 04-04-2018 12:10AM

pleas advice wrote: »

So, you're saying it can hold more than sixty characters?

Hang on a second ... it only had one corridor ...
so there could also be a hotel with infinity corridors on each of its infinity stories

chupacabra · 04-04-2018 05:15PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

All numbers are made up, the sun doesn't give a fcuk what age you are. How many characters bis that? Sixty or six squilion, it doesn't matter.

Listen to Snap!

I believe I remember reading once that you were from Donegal. I recently drove from Kerry to Donegal for the first time. Very nice county you have there.

Avatar MIA · 04-04-2018 10:45PM

Something that came to me while driving my car this afternoon... When we talk about the age of the universe, and infinity, we're making a very big assumption, that time exists at all.

There is decay and entropy, but time?

pleas advice · 04-04-2018 11:05PM

Time is what prevents everything from happening at once.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 04-04-2018 11:18PM

pleas advice wrote: »

Time is what prevents everything from happening at once.

It also stops me bumping into myself around the apartment.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-04-2018 12:07AM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Something that came to me while driving my car this afternoon... When we talk about the age of the universe, and infinity, we're making a very big assumption, that time exists at all.

There is decay and entropy, but time?

And time is pretty much unidirectional too.

Hyzepher · 05-04-2018 01:39AM

Think about an infinite event within a finite time period.

Lets say you have the ability to travel as fast as you want.

I ask you to run 100m in exactly 20 seconds. The only condition is that you continuously run half the remaining distance in half the remaining time. The first 50m would be run in 10 seconds, the next 25m in 5 seconds and so on.

Within these conditions you would never reach the finish line yet you would never exceed the 20 second time allowed.

Avatar MIA · 05-04-2018 09:22AM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

And time is pretty much unidirectional too.

As far as I know there's no law in physics that states we have to be going forward in time, we could be going in reverse to the time we think we're going. But, why can't we remember tomorrow in that case - can't remember what the supposition for that was :pac:

Avatar MIA · 05-04-2018 09:27AM

pleas advice wrote: »

Time is what prevents everything from happening at once.

We can only experience one exact moment (right now) - maybe that's the only moment that exists and every other moment is just a fake memory (Trump Time TM) of what we think is a different time, but is simultaneous :P

BrokenArrows · 05-04-2018 09:33AM

Hyzepher wrote: »

Think about an infinite event within a finite time period.

Lets say you have the ability to travel as fast as you want.

I ask you to run 100m in exactly 20 seconds. The only condition is that you continuously run half the remaining distance in half the remaining time. The first 50m would be run in 10 seconds, the next 25m in 5 seconds and so on.

Within these conditions you would never reach the finish line yet you would never exceed the 20 second time allowed.

No, your two conditions are just impossible to do together.
It's like saying I want to you cross the line and not cross the line. You can't do both.

It's like saying God is all powerful and asking God to create an object he couldn't move.

jimgoose · 05-04-2018 09:45AM

It's really more of a recipreversexclusion, that is to say, a number who's cardinal value is defined as anything other than itself. As such, it is mostly Somebody Else's Problem and will probably bugger off in due course if left alone.

Avatar MIA · 05-04-2018 12:07PM

Hyzepher wrote: »

Think about an infinite event within a finite time period.

Lets say you have the ability to travel as fast as you want.

I ask you to run 100m in exactly 20 seconds. The only condition is that you continuously run half the remaining distance in half the remaining time. The first 50m would be run in 10 seconds, the next 25m in 5 seconds and so on.

Within these conditions you would never reach the finish line yet you would never exceed the 20 second time allowed.

Is this to do with Zeno Paradox?

Capt'n Midnight · 05-04-2018 05:59PM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

As far as I know there's no law in physics that states we have to be going forward in time, we could be going in reverse to the time we think we're going. But, why can't we remember tomorrow in that case - can't remember what the supposition for that was :pac:

Thermodynamics pretty much drives the Arrow of Time.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-04-2018 06:02PM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Is this to do with Zeno Paradox?

Depends ,

are they more comfortable for running the 100m than Dr Martens Paradox ?

So,Infinity.

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