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So,Infinity.

  • 02-04-2018 1:46am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭


    Apparently infinity isn't an endless amount continuing on and on into the immeasurable distance.
    Apparently it's just a very big number,or all there is of something.

    Somebody should have sent out the memo on this as I like most folk have always assumed infinity was the former.
    Can anybody explain the concept in 60 characters or less?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    It's a quarter to three in the morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    All numbers are made up, the sun doesn't give a fcuk what age you are. How many characters bis that? Sixty or six squilion, it doesn't matter.

    Listen to Snap!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    It's a quarter to three in the morning.

    Says some eejit that invented a clock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    kneemos wrote: »
    Apparently infinity isn't an endless amount continuing on and on into the immeasurable distance.

    But aren't space time singularities suppose to have infinite gravity?:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    Who said that?

    (Contemplating infinity is very relaxing.)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    A fully booked infinite hotel can fit infinitely more guests


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Infinity is just eight knocked over on its side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Is several more than a few or just another way of saying a couple?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,716 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Infinity is just eight knocked over on its side.

    Oh gosh, the weather god does jokes too !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    This thread is only 14 posts long and already feels like infinity. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    op has an affinity for infinity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Tazio


    Its simple really ... take 1 apple... and divide it between 0 people.. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    My son just thinks it's a cool word to use when he's returning little digs in the ribs I give him.

    Boom. "Got you last x infinity dad" he'd say


    If I wanted to be a real smart ass, I could clip him around the ear and tell him infinity plus one, but its important to let kids have a win every now and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space

    I live next door to the chemist so infinity must be fuggin huge!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    kneemos wrote: »
    Apparently infinity isn't an endless amount continuing on and on into the immeasurable distance.
    Apparently it's just a very big number,or all there is of something.

    Somebody should have sent out the memo on this as I like most folk have always assumed infinity was the former.
    Can anybody explain the concept in 60 characters or less?

    Infinity describes something that is infinite, if something is found no longer to be infinite then this does not change the description of infinity - it merely means you need to find a new description for that something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Jack Kanoff


    You're delving into Carl Sagan territory here...but my take is.... before the big bang ..there was nothing...
    And eventually, the universe will implode...and again there will be nothing...
    All the bits in-between are infinity...the problem we have is the that we can't comprehend "the nothing"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    My son just thinks it's a cool word to use when he's returning little digs in the ribs I give him.

    Boom. "Got you last x infinity dad" he'd say


    If I wanted to be a real smart ass, I could clip him around the ear and tell him infinity plus one, but its important to let kids have a win every now and again.

    I'll show that to blanch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    Taking a few liberties with these quotes before the pedantic Pats get their knickers in a twist.

    Ali G: “what’s the biggest number?”
    Mathematician: “no such thing.....infinity”
    Ali G: “what about infinity plus one?”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,670 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Infinity is what the homelessness figures in Ireland will eventually reach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Depends on the context i would imagine.

    You can count towards infinity the number of apples in a basket, but there is an obvious limit where that ends, so in that case infinity ends when the count stops.

    But if you were to try count the stars in the universe, and count towards infinity, then infinite as a limitless number is valid, as there are more stars in the universe than there is the ability in the human mind to comprehend the resulting number.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 300 ✭✭garbo speaks


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Infinity is what the homelessness figures in Ireland will eventually reach.

    Get this man on Have I Got News For You.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,043 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Infinity

    tumblr_lqkaa0cc7Z1r25534o1_500.gif

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    And eventually, the universe will implode...a

    Not true, the speed of expansion is picking up and there's no going back. It'd be kind of neat if the universe were slowing down and went into reverse to a big crunch, then you could speculate that it's all wash, rinse repeat. But, the universe said and this is the technical term, 'Nah!'
    CruelCoin wrote: »
    than there is the ability in the human mind to comprehend the resulting number.

    Apart from it being an ever changing number (some visible stars are gone, and some stars created haven't had time for their light to reach us), and while there's a very large number of stars in the universe...

    There are about 10 billion galaxies in the observable universe! The number of stars in a galaxy varies, but assuming an average of 100 billion stars per galaxy means that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the observable universe!

    it is a finite number.

    Whereas the amount of numbers between 1 and 2 is infinite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    But aren't space time singularities suppose to have infinite gravity?:confused:

    Anytime we get singularities in physics it means that there is something wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Anytime we get singularities in mathematics it means that there is something wrong.

    And if it was infinite we'd not have Hawking's Radiation.

    Both from the same scientist I believe.

    RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Jack Kanoff


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Not true, the speed of expansion is picking up and there's no going back. It'd be kind of neat if the universe were slowing down and went into reverse to a big crunch, then you could speculate that it's all wash, rinse repeat. But, the universe said and this is the technical term, 'Nah!.

    It called The Big Crunch, the universe will continue to expand...and then it won't...it contracts and that's it...comes to an end... possibly.
    Don't think either of us have to worry about it though...not going to happen for a few years ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The definition of infinite is endless or immeasurable.

    The scienticians might have their own definition of it,but they need to stop using it when they're out in public.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    It called The Big Crunch, the universe will continue to expand...and then it won't...it contracts and that's items.


    Yes, the Big Crunch, I should have capitalised.

    Why do you think the universe will continue to expand and then go into reverse? Is everything going to bounce off a wall and come back? :D

    Per Newton's first law there would need to be a force to first slow it down and then make it go into reverse, and what would that be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Jack Kanoff


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Yes, the Big Crunch, I should have capitalised.

    Why do you think the universe will continue to expand and then go into reverse? Is everything going to bounce off a wall and come back? :D

    Per Newton's first law there would need to be a force to first slow it down and then make it go into reverse, and what would that be?

    Gravity my good fellow, gravity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Yes, the Big Crunch, I should have capitalised.

    Why do you think the universe will continue to expand and then go into reverse? Is everything going to bounce off a wall and come back? :D

    Per Newton's first law there would need to be a force to first slow it down and then make it go into reverse, and what would that be?


    How was it compressed to a single point in the first place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    In reality infinity is a mathematical concept not a physical one. So the age of the universe is not that relevant.

    In mathematics there’s different infinities. Countable and uncountable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Gravity my good fellow, gravity.

    Oh right, never heard of gravity before, do please continue...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    kneemos wrote: »
    How was it compressed to a single point in the first place?

    God, obvs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Oh right, never heard of gravity before, do please continue...

    He’s saying that the expansion due to the Big Bang will slow or stop and gravity will continue to exist as an attractive force and therefore the universe will contract.

    Perfectly sound in theory but the observations don’t show that the expansion is slowing, instead it is accelerating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    He’s saying that the expansion due to the Big Bang will slow or stop and gravity will continue to exist as an attractive force and therefore the universe will contract.

    Perfectly sound in theory but the observations don’t show that the expansion is slowing, instead it is accelerating.

    I know that's what he's saying and I'm disagreeing with him because of what you're saying. :pac:

    If there was enough matter in the universe (regular and dark) it would never have started to accelerate. Which concludes we continue into the very far (but not infinite) future and the heat death of the universe. Don't worry, there's plenty of them around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    They changed the meaning of a billion a few years ago too. In America it meant a thousand million. In the British isles it was a million million. Now the American definition is the official meaning in the British isles too.

    What confuses me is I remember this happening during my lifetime. In school I was taught a billion was a thousand million. I was sure this happened sometime in the late eighties or early nineties. But apparently the definition was changed in 1975, the year before I was born.

    https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-61424,00.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    They changed the meaning of a billion a few years ago too. In America it meant a thousand million. In the British isles it was a million million. Now the American definition is the official meaning in the British isles too.

    What confuses me is I remember this happening during my lifetime. In school I was taught a billion was a thousand million. I was sure this happened sometime in the late eighties or early nineties. But apparently the definition was changed in 1975, the year before I was born.

    https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-61424,00.html

    Your original schoolbooks were probably first printed before you were born though :-p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    Waits for it...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Waits for it...

    You waiting for infinity? Not happening today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    You waiting for infinity? Not happening today.

    Still waiting, but this will happen today. It's a universal boards.ie constant. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭tritium


    Tazio wrote: »
    Its simple really ... take 1 apple... and divide it between 0 people.. :p

    That’s not infinity, it’s undefined. It tend to infinity and the denominator gets smaller but it’s not defined at 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    kneemos wrote: »
    Apparently infinity isn't an endless amount continuing on and on into the immeasurable distance.
    Apparently it's just a very big number,or all there is of something.

    Somebody should have sent out the memo on this as I like most folk have always assumed infinity was the former.
    Can anybody explain the concept in 60 characters or less?

    I'm hearing Rick Sanchez's voice in my head when I read this...
    Pac1Man wrote: »
    It's a quarter to three in the morning.

    ... and Morty's when I read this.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    Still waiting, but this will happen today. It's a universal boards.ie constant. :D

    I gave your ma infinite pleasure?


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    What do you get if you divide infinity by two


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    I gave your ma infinite pleasure?

    I'm sure she loved it, but keep a careful watch, necrophilia can be frowned upon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    What do you get if you divide infinity by two

    Stick it into your calculator there and let us know :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Avatar MIA wrote: »
    I'm sure she loved it, but keep a careful watch, necrophilia can be frowned upon.

    Reminds me of the same mistake I made in school.

    Anyway I was trying to work out what the AH reply was, not referencing any particular mother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    What do you get if you divide infinity by two

    Infinity. Which also means that you can’t divine infinity by infinity and get 1.


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