Vendor left waste furniture behind

Cash_Q · 03-04-2018 02:05PM #1

Hi
We've just bought a house that had been rented out. The tenant left and landlord cleared out the majority of stuff. There is a mattress, couple of wardrobes and other bits and pieces of waste furniture left behind. Also 3 overflowing wheelie bins.

We have been quoted up to 200euro to have this stuff removed. Where do we stand? I'm badgering the estate agent non stop but not getting anywhere as he keeps saying he hasn't heard back from the vendor.

Homer · 03-04-2018 02:07PM

Im afraid its your rubbish now! Not a hope the vendor will clear it out if the sale has completed I would guess. Unless it was specified in the contract or similar?

Cash_Q · 03-04-2018 02:08PM

**** sake! We stupidly paid 250 for white goods and sofas and are now left with those costs! I'm going to go to the estate agents right now **** this.

Wheety · 03-04-2018 02:17PM

Would be quicker and less hassle just to get rid of it yourself. Could advertise for the furniture or if you want to dump it all check your local amenity centre. If you could borrow a van, the one in Ballymount charges €60 for a medium van and €84 for a large van. At least you'd know it was going to the right place too rather than just being dumped.

lordgoat · 03-04-2018 02:21PM

This happened us, we just rang the bin company and told us the old tenants left their bins behind. They came collected them (full) and I presume charged previous owners.
Signed up with same company same day. No problem at all.

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 02:24PM

Cash_Q wrote:

We have been quoted up to 200euro to have this stuff removed. Where do we stand? I'm badgering the estate agent non stop but not getting anywhere as he keeps saying he hasn't heard back from the vendor.

The estate agent has no liability, not sure why you think badgering them will further things along for you. Unless it was stated in your contract of sale that house was to be left devoid of all possessions of pervious owner ( or similar wording) the furniture is now yours to dispose of. Less hassle just rent a van and do it yourself.

DebDynamite · 03-04-2018 02:30PM

Same thing happened us when we got the keys to our house. Now, ours was a bad case - clothes, furniture, garage full of crap... It was like the sellers moved out of the house and just brought an overnight bag with then. We rang our solicitor immediately and she put a stop to the money. In the end, the estate agent ended up getting someone in to clear the house, and I presume (hope), he passed on the cost to the sellers. Maybe things are too far gone for you though to do that.

emeldc · 03-04-2018 02:42PM

Any time I bought a house (5) it was always agreed between the parties that my solicitor would hold the funds until the house was inspected. Sure what if carpets, curtains and white goods were included in the sale and then you turn up after the money is handed over and they're not there. Would that just be tough as well. Solicitor sounds sloppy to me.

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 03-04-2018 02:48PM

Cash_Q wrote: »

**** sake! We stupidly paid 250 for white goods and sofas and are now left with those costs! I'm going to go to the estate agents right now **** this.

OT; Another reason why Ireland needs to stop the backwards practice of furnished rentals and sales.

Cash_Q · 03-04-2018 02:50PM

Well when I went to the final inspection these items were in the house but I naively thought they were being removed when told the vendor needed an extra week to clear out. Collected the keys and arrived to find them there.

As for the wheelie bins yes they'll take them but will charge US not the previous account holder 20.

We can't hire a van and do it ourselves i am pregnant so can't lift any of the ****.

Estate agents are being really cheeky and unhelpful about it. I'm just having a rant so if you've no helpful advice then please don't come at me with blame on our part. Is it too much to expect that someone would not leave behind a filthy mattress and broken wardrobes?

listermint · 03-04-2018 02:52PM

Erm, did you specify any of this in the sales negotiation . i.e taking furniture and clearing it out.

because unless you did then its your sunk cost.

Claw Hammer · 03-04-2018 03:23PM

There is a failure to give you vacant possession of the property. You may have the right to sue the vendor and possibly his solicitor. You can also threaten to report the agent to the PSRA for misrepresentation.

vandriver · 03-04-2018 03:26PM

Claw Hammer wrote: »

There is a failure to give you vacant possession of the property. You may have the right to sue the vendor and possibly his solicitor. You can also threaten to report the agent to the PSRA for misrepresentation.

For something that can be solved for 2 ton.LOL

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 03:30PM

Claw Hammer wrote:

There is a failure to give you vacant possession of the property. You may have the right to sue the vendor and possibly his solicitor. You can also threaten to report the agent to the PSRA for misrepresentation.

I don't think vacant possession means what you think it means. Threaten the Agent?

spaceHopper · 03-04-2018 03:42PM

It's this simple, you've been stung for 200 quid to get it taken away. Have you looked in the attic?

Dial Hard · 03-04-2018 03:43PM

Claw Hammer wrote:

There is a failure to give you vacant possession of the property.

That's not what vacant possession means, at all.

feedthegoat · 03-04-2018 03:45PM

spaceHopper wrote: »

It's this simple, you've been stung for 200 quid to get it taken away. Have you looked in the attic?

Good point, we bought house and all was well until went to put our own stuff in attic, all the baby\ toddler stuff of the previous occupants was there, filled a mini skip!

Claw Hammer · 03-04-2018 03:47PM

Dial Hard wrote: »

That's not what vacant possession means, at all.

It certainly is. There have been court decisions on it.

gmisk · 03-04-2018 03:53PM

feedthegoat wrote: »

Good point, we bought house and all was well until went to put our own stuff in attic, all the baby\ toddler stuff of the previous occupants was there, filled a mini skip!

Had the same issue....house relatively clear...but took me 3 days to clear the attic.

Bandana boy · 03-04-2018 04:01PM

Dublin city council will do a bulk waste collection for 40 euro ,up to 5 items .

Will get rid of mattress and lockers and the like and allow you to run the balance to the dump , which is 25 euro for a car

Will get you in well below 200 bills

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 04:03PM

Claw Hammer wrote:

It certainly is. There have been court decisions on it.

Since vacant possession is not defined in Irish law maybe you could give a few examples of those court cases and outcomes.

IBrows89 · 03-04-2018 04:05PM

Happened with our house recently as well, they brought it an extra wheelie bin and it was filled up with rubbish and left a couple of old chairs, they then went out of their way to take old curtains down from the bed rooms. So annoying.

I checked the attic straight away thinking it would be full, luckily we dodged a bullet there as there was nothing.

FionnB · 03-04-2018 04:07PM

Ask your solicitor where you stand. Same thing happened us - a room full of broken furniture, a cupboard full of old shoes, a superser canister in the porch, even an unpaid milk bill. I am still annoyed with myself years later that I didn't do anything about it.

Damiencm · 03-04-2018 04:17PM

Claw Hammer wrote:

It certainly is. There have been court decisions on it.

I always thought vacant possession simply meant that the property would be untenanted when the sale completed.

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McGrath5 · 03-04-2018 04:50PM

Nothing you can do about it OP, one of the pitfalls of purchasing a house.

It is good practice to complete an inspection just before the sale closes to avoid scenarios like this, you live and learn.

Cash_Q · 03-04-2018 05:25PM

Attic is clear

Did complete inspection before closing. House was clear except these items which is basically one item per room. I really thought I'd be pointing out the obvious to ask for these to be removed and presumed I wouldn't have to as the vendors asked for an extra week to clear out the property. They got their week but cleared none of that stuff.

Our solicitor is contacting their solicitor tomorrow.

Cash_Q · 03-04-2018 05:26PM

Bandana boy wrote:

Dublin city council will do a bulk waste collection for 40 euro ,up to 5 items .

I presume this is in their area only? We are South Dublin Co Co.

As a pregnant hormonal person I'm definitely over reacting to this but it's a pain in the ars3

Claw Hammer · 03-04-2018 05:27PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Since vacant possession is not defined in Irish law maybe you could give a few examples of those court cases and outcomes.

How do you know it is not defined?

Hitman3000 · 03-04-2018 05:31PM

Claw Hammer wrote:

How do you know it is not defined?

It's quite easy really. Just acquaint yourself with the law. Don't make up stuff.

Vendor left waste furniture behind

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