Driver using bus lane

Speaking of cyclists breaking red lights, on my way to work yesterday I saw 2 cyclists coming from different directions both break red lights and crash into each other.

I didn't stick around to see if the OP went over and tapped on their bikes and did their duties of a volunteer Traffic Corp member.

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Leaving 'entitlement' aside, I can't see how it would differ from being endangered on an ordinary road.

99.9% of roads do not have a bus lane. How do you manage on those roads or how did you manage before we had any bus lanes?

I don’t get why you always try to bring up irrelevant poiints. It does not matter how long bus lanes are in existence or if there is one at all. Normal rules of the road existed before bus lanes and will stil exist if they were scrapped right now.

If a motorist pulls into a bus lane or passes a cyclist without regard to their presence or safety on any other lane, and by doing so impedes or endangers them, that cyclist is entitled to be pissed off by their poor driving and breach of the RTA. If they can take that up with the motorist, that’s their choice. Motorists are quite capable of using their car horns to intimidate and impose their thoughts on other road users, including cyclists. We don’t have a horn to sound and a bell is ineffective in most cases. Please bear in mind, this is motorist behaviour led...if there is no issue with their driving there is no reason to confront. If you don’t do that, fine, but it’s not wrong to challenge a driver if their driving is substandard. It’s not policing to do either. It should be a conversation between two civil adults but many motorist just use it to further make a point that cyclists are some form of low life that should not be on the roads.

I have a question for you:
Have you ever beeped another road user and if so, was that just to say ‘hello’ or advise that motorist of something, possibly their poor driving ? And before you say it, I know the rules about sounding a car horn, but many motorists don’t, and use it to vent and intimidate.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I've seen them once or twice all right, and they're usually in synch with the traffic lights, which generally work so that when traffic is coming from two different directions, one has red and one has green.

And at what point in this scenario do pedestrians go? Lights were red for all traffic lanes as pedestrian lights were green.

ignorance is strength wrote: »

Surely - surely - you can see that the illegal actions of cars are far more disruptive than those of cyclists? And why must the OP enforce all laws? Are they not entitled to rebuke rule-breakers that particularly annoy them without also having to tell someone walking by to pick up their litter? When you break a rule, it’s not the police or the state you are affecting, it’s your fellow citizens; therefore, this attitude of “stay out of this” is idiotic.

Surely - surely - you can see that the illegal actions of cyclists in breaking the red lights are more frequent and potentially as dangerous (if not more so) than drivers driving in the bus lane?

Neither should be happening but I am rightly pointing out both issues that our zealous cyclist should be aware of.

That said I am well aware of the very very dangerous actions of some people in cars as I was almost in a very serious accident yesterday due to a lunatic overtaking movement.

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Speaking of cyclists breaking red lights, on my way to work yesterday I saw 2 cyclists coming from different directions both break red lights and crash into each other.

I didn't stick around to see if the OP went over and tapped on their bikes and did their duties of a volunteer Traffic Corp member.

Wow, my point summarised completely.

The frequency of breaking of red lights by cyclists is so high that our zealous cyclist must be seeing it happening every day and probably cringing (but maybe joining them on occasions perhaps?)

micar wrote: »

I spoke to one cyclist who almost killed himself going through a red light. He didn't appreciate it.

I had to shout at one to stop who went up the inside of a left turning lorry.

Spoke to another cycling in the cycle lane without their hands on the handlebar.

I have to say fair play to you. Well done.

Approaching a left turn , the line is broken to enable left turn.
On several occasions I have been almost hit and, honked at by cars speeding illegally in the bus lane.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Weird answer - is there something to hide? What particular junction was it? What roads came together at this junction? I'm interested to know what particular junction has red lights for traffic coming from different directions at the same time.

Perhaps I can offer a couple here, just as examples of such types of junctions where red lights show in all directions simultaneously:

Beaumont Road/Shantalla Road
Howth Rd/Sybil Hill Rd.

It may be that it only happens when the pedestrian button has been pressed - I'm almost certain that's the case in Beaumont. In the other one, every single time I've driven through it, I've sat waiting while red showed everywhere for traffic and green for pedestrians on both roads. At this one there are a number of schools beside the junction so that could be why.

Saw the mod note about 'red lights' AFTER I posted, apologies, but was simply answering a query about where this type of junction exists.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Could you point to some specific examples of cyclists who think that they can't do wrong?



I don't think he needs help to tell us where the incident happened yesterday. Or does he?

ie. instructing a motorist to move out of the cycle I would agree with , but then to cycle alongside said motorist and tap on their bonnet to further admonish them , I think is wrong.

Further examples ? have a read through the Cycling forum, and you will be well able to identify the individuals that ,
A) Think they are always correct about everything.
if you don't agree with their point of view , they will try to pick your posts apart with pedantic skill ,a and a holier than thou attitude.
C) Motorists are evil
D) Cyclists are always right.
E) All of the above