Good news everybody, the Pope says Hell doesn't exist!

CruelCoin wrote: »

First he says evolution is real, then he accepts the big bang (though states god did it), now this.

He's gonna be assasinated within the year. You read it here first. Some westboro cousin ****er is going to take a shot.

They havent had a problem with big bang or evolution in a long time now

CruelCoin wrote: »

First he says evolution is real, then he accepts the big bang (though states god did it)

Every pope has stated evolution is real since 1950, that's not an issue. It's American evangelicals and certain American protestant dominations that have an issue with evolution. The Catholic Church accepted it 68 years ago. He just reiterated those comments, they were not revolutionary.

The big bang was never an issue either. It was a catholic priest that came up with it and it was accepted by the Pope in 1951. Genesis has been seen as metaphorical by the church for literally hundreds of years.

Ipso wrote: »

If there is no Adam and Eve, where does that leave original sin? After all that's why Jesus dies to save us, from God apparently even though he loves us.

Don't try and make sense of a doctrine that has changed over thousands of years (from Judaism) with hundreds of authors. :pac:

However they (the church) stated (for hundreds of years) there doesn't have to be a literal Adam and Eve, It's just an origin story about how the first humans sinned against God and that somehow changed us forever. Hence why Pope Pius XII stated evolution doesn't interfere with this notion because it was never literal in the first place.

Anyone who has a heavy investment in a philosophical belief system will always do mental gymnastics to make that philosophy fit into a new understanding of the world, rather than discarding it like the should.

However if you'd allow me to go on a slight side thought for a second, I even believe the Christian belief in Jesus saving us from Original Sin is another example of this mental gymnastics to make narrative fit when the original didn't.

Jesus was supposed to be the Jewish Messiah. The Jewish Messiah was supposed to be a man (not divine), a warrior that would overthrow the enemies of the Israelites (in his time, the Romans), and reunite the 13 lost tribes of Israel. Jesus did none of these things, he didn't reunite the lost tribes, he didn't save them from the Romans. He claimed to be the Messiah, got a following, and then got executed. Doesn't really tick the boxes of the Jewish Messiah.

Unless you change the goal posts and change the rules. Then you say his death wasn't in vain, he "saved" us from Original Sin from Adam and eve,that's why his death now made sense, that's what the savior was "really" supposed to be about. All that other stuff he didn't do? Don't worry about it, he came back from the dead and went to heaven, and he'll be back to finish what he started. How could he do this? Ah see he wasn't just a man, he was divine. God incarnate. That's how.

Saving the world from Original Sin isn't even mentioned in the Old Testament as a requirement from the Messiah. Neither is having magical powers due to be the son of God. It's not a thing.

the purple tin wrote: »

[/B]Elijah and Enoch would be two more. Mary is a possible third depending on which christian sect you ask.

Ah, they of course count. I should have clarified saying dead humans/humans that have gone to heaven after death.

Hitman3000 wrote: »

I think he's building towards finally admitting along with the rest of the church that it's all really a load of bollix that got slightly out of hand, they didn't think so many would fall for the fairy tale.

Could be. St Malachy prophesied that the current pope will be the last one ever, so who knows.

Was he wearing his magic hat while he said it? I don't think it counts unless he was wearing his magic hat.

Jokes on him.

We're all currently in it.

Including him.

Pope Francis is a false prophet Christ warned us about 2000 years ago!. A disgusting vile human being the Pope is. He needs to repent more than anyone. Can't fathom why anyone follow this Charlatan and Liar. Hell is very real from the Bible. Just 3 quotes.

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:50

If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. Mark 9:43

The list goes on and on but you get the message.


But seriously anyone following the Pope and his false Church is massively deceived.


Jesus Christ Lord, Messiah and Savior saves us from Religion.

Jesus loves Atheists too such is mercy.
Even the "Atheist academics" like Richard Dawkins (who has lost so many debates now he refuses to participate in them!)

Hallelujah!.

super_furry wrote:

So if you're a really bollox you just kind of disappear when you die he reckons. Probably the first Pope to agree with the atheists but it's kind of disappointing to know that Hitler, Josef Fritzel and the man who came up with those NRC, taxi, taxi, taxi adverts and all those other bad bastards won't be boiling in lava forever.

They were probably given a tour of heaven and told there isn't a housing crisis there just before being kicked out.