Good news everybody, the Pope says Hell doesn't exist!

super_furry · 29-03-2018 03:06PM #1

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/pope-francis-abolishes-hell-saying-souls-of-unrepentant-sinners-will-simply-disappear-pwlv6l667?CMP=Sprkr-_-Editorial-_-thetimes-_-Unspecified-_-TWITTER

In a move that will enrage conservative Catholics, the Pontiff told La Repubblica that the souls of unrepentant sinners were not punished in the afterlife, but simply disappeared.

“Hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of the souls of sinners exists,” he told Eugenio Scalfari, a 93-year-old atheist philosopher, during a conversation in the Vatican.

So if you're a really bollox you just kind of disappear when you die he reckons. Probably the first Pope to agree with the atheists but it's kind of disappointing to know that Hitler, Josef Fritzel and the man who came up with those NRC, taxi, taxi, taxi adverts and all those other bad bastards won't be boiling in lava forever.

Bredabe · 29-03-2018 03:14PM

super_furry wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/pope-francis-abolishes-hell-saying-souls-of-unrepentant-sinners-will-simply-disappear-pwlv6l667?CMP=Sprkr-_-Editorial-_-thetimes-_-Unspecified-_-TWITTER

In a move that will enrage conservative Catholics, the Pontiff told La Repubblica that the souls of unrepentant sinners were not punished in the afterlife, but simply disappeared.

“Hell doesn’t exist, the disappearance of the souls of sinners exists,” he told Eugenio Scalfari, a 93-year-old atheist philosopher, during a conversation in the Vatican.

So if you're a really bollox you just kind of disappear when you die he reckons. Probably the first Pope to agree with the atheists but it's kind of disappointing to know that Hitler, Josef Fritzel and the man who came up with those NRC, taxi, taxi, taxi adverts and all those other bad bastards won't be boiling in lava forever.

My late mother would be devastated by this, she loved to threaten us with how the devil would do this and that to us if we were bold.
BUT if the church has lied to believers on this, then what else have they lied about? and how can they prove any of this?

super_furry · 29-03-2018 03:17PM

Think that once they decided that limbo was no longer a place that dead unbaptised babies were dumped out to, then everything was up for grabs.

kneemos · 29-03-2018 03:20PM

Poof.

Graces7 · 29-03-2018 03:21PM

That idea is far from new. It was in literature as far back as Christopher Marlowe, in "Dr Faustus"

A far more scary idea than pitchforks etc.. shudders

Gerry T · 29-03-2018 03:22PM

Bredabe wrote: »

My late mother would be devastated by this, she loved to threaten us with how the devil would do this and that to us if we were bold.
BUT if the church has lied to believers on this, then what else have they lied about? and how can they prove any of this?

Well, first they have to prove Jesus was...how do I put this...that he was Jesus the saviour and disher out of miracles. Once that's done its plain sailing proving there's no Hell.

daheff · 29-03-2018 03:22PM

Bredabe wrote: »

My late mother would be devastated by this, she loved to threaten us with how the devil would do this and that to us if we were bold.
BUT if the church has lied to believers on this, then what else have they lied about? and how can they prove any of this?

but don't liars go to hell?? So they are all going to hell (or just disappearing afterwards)?

super_furry · 29-03-2018 03:23PM

daheff wrote: »

but don't liars go to hell?? So they are all going to hell (or just disappearing afterwards)?

Only if they don't say sorry for lying. Say sorry and you're sorted.

D3V!L · 29-03-2018 03:24PM

super_furry wrote: »

Think that once they decided that limbo was no longer a place that dead unbaptised babies were dumped out to, then everything was up for grabs.

Everyone knows that they end up in septic tanks out the back of a convent :rolleyes:

hullaballoo · 29-03-2018 03:29PM

D3V!L wrote: »

Everyone knows that they end up in septic tanks out the back of a convent :rolleyes:

Does this news not put you out of a job?

Franz Von Peppercorn · 29-03-2018 03:32PM

Graces7 wrote: »

That idea is far from new. It was in literature as far back as Christopher Marlowe, in "Dr Faustus"

A far more scary idea than pitchforks etc.. shudders

Oh I’d take nothingness over eternal torture.

Hitman3000 · 29-03-2018 03:33PM

Sounds convienent, that will comfort a lot of the religious who know they have no chance of heaven, kiddy fiddlers are barred. Nah we are all f**ked no heaven either. The guy in the dress can't admitt that though.

valoren · 29-03-2018 03:34PM

FFS now the classic retort "Go to Hell!" has lost all meaning

D3V!L · 29-03-2018 03:34PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

Does this news not put you out of a job?

They've just given me a nice redundancy package. Something about my role no longer existing.

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the purple tin · 29-03-2018 03:37PM

I think the pope is shooting himself in the foot here. The threat of eternal damnation has been the RC church's ace in the hole for years.
Also where did Jesus go for the few days before he was resurrected if not Hell.

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Hitman3000 · 29-03-2018 03:40PM

the purple tin wrote:

Also where did Jesus go for the few days before he was resurrected if not Hell.

On the lash with the 'boy's', 3 day weekend 'yeah baby'!

valoren · 29-03-2018 03:42PM

D3V!L wrote: »

They've just given me a nice redundancy package. Something about my role no longer existing.

Considering the earth and universe is 10,000 years old based on Young Earth Creationism then at your base rate of $6.66 per hour as the pitchman for Evil and considering you worked 40 hours week you should be entitled to a severance package (based on 2 weeks pay per year of service) of $5,328,000.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 29-03-2018 03:43PM

Hell exists, but as a state of mind not an actual metaphysical location!

valoren · 29-03-2018 03:44PM

I take it that Pope Francis has never been to Derby City.

the purple tin · 29-03-2018 03:45PM

valoren wrote: »

I take it that Pope Francis has never been to Derby City.

or Moate.

somefeen · 29-03-2018 03:50PM

valoren wrote: »

Considering the earth and universe is 10,000 years old based on Young Earth Creationism then at your base rate of $6.66 per hour as the pitchman for Evil and considering you worked 40 hours week you should be entitled to a severance package (based on 2 weeks pay per year of service) of $5,328,000.

I thought prince of darkness would be a management pay grade? Doesn't he have minions and a large facility under his supervision?

super_furry · 29-03-2018 03:52PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

On the lash with the 'boy's', 3 day weekend 'yeah baby'!

Yeah but not Good Friday because it's only now that the pubs are opening.

Reati · 29-03-2018 03:53PM

This is a non event and the Vatican will go into damage control how it's a misquote.

This changes the dogma for them not too.

pleas advice · 29-03-2018 03:55PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

Does this news not put you out of a job?

The greatest story ever told, or somethin

Hitman3000 · 29-03-2018 03:58PM

super_furry wrote:

Yeah but not Good Friday because it's only now that the pubs are opening.

They went to the offie on Holy Thursday, it wasn't a Good Friday it was a Great Friday. You should have seen the 'Last Supper' after party.

Red_Wake · 29-03-2018 04:03PM

Surely he'd have to cite some religious texts to make this much of a volte face.

Also, can any religion bods tell me how much Hell is referenced in the Bible itself?

Hitman3000 · 29-03-2018 04:07PM

Graces7 wrote:

A far more scary idea than pitchforks etc.. shudders

A pitchfork up the ass for eternity or oblivion? Not a hard choice tbh. Don't worry it's all b.s. we all just go 'poof'. No evidence to the contrary.

brainfreeze · 29-03-2018 04:23PM

super_furry wrote: »

In a move that will enrage conservative Catholics, the Pontiff told La Repubblica that the souls of unrepentant sinners were not punished in the afterlife, but simply disappeared.

Disclaimer: I'm an atheist, and a bit rusty so might be talking nonsense, however:

That's always been Catholic Doctrine. Hell as a physical place like a punishment dimension took off in later times borrowing from other religions. It means a state without God. So for non-humans like Angels (fallen) etc, they can no longer communicate or feel God. They have been cut off, they are in "Hell". For humans you are simply dead.

Hell for humans always meant death. When you are in hell you are just dead. No longer alive or in the grace of God, because you're.. dead. When Jesus descended to "hell" on Good Friday until Easter Sunday, he was just.. dead. This concept of Jesus going to a eternal torture dimension karate chopping demons for three days is simply because the definition of what Hell is changed in a modern context, but that was never the doctrine.

Dead Humans that are in heaven with God and the Angels, are called Saints. Despite the church naming saints (which is basically saying we think this person was so good there is 99% they will get to go to heaven), there is only one confirmed Saint in Catholic/Christian doctrine, the Good Thief. Everyone else is just a dead corpse in the ground as far as we know.

CruelCoin · 29-03-2018 04:29PM

First he says evolution is real, then he accepts the big bang (though states god did it), now this.

He's gonna be assasinated within the year. You read it here first. Some westboro cousin ****er is going to take a shot.

Good news everybody, the Pope says Hell doesn't exist!

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