Two clubs reactions to players' tweets about Belfast trial

QueenOfWexico · 29-03-2018 12:34AM #1

Two differing reactions from Laois GAA and Drogheda United football club.

http://leagueofireland.ie/index.php/2018/03/28/drogheda-united-horrified-by-a-players-tweet-on-paddy-jackson-trial/

https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/laois-gaa-issue-statement-disassociating-themselves-from-players-reaction-to-rugby-rape-trial-verdict-834735.html

I would personally feel that Drogheda responded better in this circumstance. Thoughts?

fatknacker · 29-03-2018 12:39AM

Well if nothing else, it's drawing the scummy sportsmen out of the woodwork and highlighting their gross attitudes toward women.

ted1 · 29-03-2018 01:01AM

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major bill · 29-03-2018 01:08AM

Having a read through that Laois guys twitter he seems like a bit of a twat anyway.

Two idiots!! silly comments to put up on social media no matter how frustrated they might have felt as fellow sportsmen.

pleas advice · 29-03-2018 01:14AM

QueenOfWexico wrote: »

I would personally feel that Drogheda responded better in this circumstance. Thoughts?

responded better to what? two completely different things they were responding to

_Dara_ · 29-03-2018 01:14AM

I think it’s time for Gary Walsh to smash his own skull open and start feasting on the goo inside. Good lord.

QueenOfWexico · 29-03-2018 01:17AM

pleas advice wrote: »

responded better to what? two completely different things they were responding to

Weren't both clubs responding to tweets sent out by a player of theirs who used very questionable language?

Yer Da sells Avon · 29-03-2018 01:17AM

Kind of funny though...

From...

...to...

Nekarsulm · 29-03-2018 01:19AM

How stupid can you get?

After 9 weeks of a trial where infantile, immature, sexist and misogynistic tweets were read out in public court to their senders great discredit, these guys seem to have learned nothing.

retro:electro · 29-03-2018 01:20AM

Jesus Christ, that tweet is shocking. And I’ve been reading the boards thread all evening, was beginning to think I’d become immune :pac:

pleas advice · 29-03-2018 01:22AM

QueenOfWexico wrote: »

Weren't both clubs responding to tweets sent out by a player of theirs who used very questionable language?

well one used 'tramps' and 'sluts', the other said 'feminists'. Lets say both were posted on Boards, one would earn you a swift ban, and rightly so, the other probably wouldn't..

_Dara_ · 29-03-2018 01:22AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Jesus Christ, that tweet is shocking. And I’ve been reading the boards thread all evening, was beginning to think I’d become immune :pac:

I would be sooooo embarrassed if he was my son/grandson/brother/boyfriend. He just sounds so hard-of-thinking.

Summer In the City · 29-03-2018 01:23AM

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Kind of funny though...

From...

...to...

Haha. He learned better english between them two tweets

QueenOfWexico · 29-03-2018 01:24AM

pleas advice wrote: »

well one used 'tramps' and 'sluts', the other said 'feminists'. Lets say both were posted on Boards, one would earn you a swift ban, and rightly so, the other probably wouldn't..

Well yes but then he also eloquently added that he'd 'throw the kitchen sink' at them :pac:

I know I'd get in trouble with work for saying that online

pleas advice · 29-03-2018 01:27AM

ah. I thought that was a brilliant line, in fairness

_Dara_ · 29-03-2018 01:29AM

pleas advice wrote: »

ah. I thought that was a brilliant line, in fairness

No, it sounds like a line I’d have heard in school in the late ‘90s. Truly witless stuff.

retro:electro · 29-03-2018 01:33AM

You can agree the jury made the right decision without slapping the backs of those accused and calling for the head of the woman involved. There’s no winners here. At worst, these guys would have been rapists, and at the very best they’re inconsiderate foul mouthed arseholes.
Why would anyone want to defend that?

QueenOfWexico · 29-03-2018 01:35AM

retro:electro wrote: »

You can agree the jury made the right decision without slapping the backs of those accused and calling for the head of the woman involved. There’s no winners here. At worst, these guys would have been rapists, and at the very best they’re inconsiderate foul mouthed arseholes.
Why would anyone want to defend that?

Exactly.

You can have whatever opinion you want on it, but at the end of the day there is no reason to celebrate any verdict from a rape trial. Be it guilty, or not guilty. There are no winners.

Yer Da sells Avon · 29-03-2018 01:37AM

"All yee (sic) feminists come at me I'll throw the kitchen sink at ye"

*a few hours later...*

"In relation to my earlier tweet, I would like to apologise..."

Love how he's only apologising for negative attention brought to the GAA, his team and their sponsors, rather than for calling for an innocent person to be "destroyed".

pleas advice · 29-03-2018 01:39AM

retro:electro wrote: »

At worst, these guys would have been rapists, and at the very best they’re inconsiderate foul mouthed arseholes.
Why would anyone want to defend that?

I'm not defending it, at all. but the people who had them written off as rapists from the start shouldn't be surprised if there is some backlash

QueenOfWexico · 29-03-2018 01:44AM

pleas advice wrote: »

I'm not defending it, at all. but the people who had them written off as rapists from the start shouldn't be surprised if there is some backlash

It wasn't right for people to write them off either, but two wrongs surely don't make a right?

What is most concerning here is that two sportsmen who are role models in their respective clubs/communities actually thought it was fine to mouth off such utterly disgraceful drivel publicly.

Summer In the City · 29-03-2018 01:45AM

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

"All yee (sic) feminists come at me I'll throw the kitchen sink at ye"

*a few hours later...*

"In relation to my earlier tweet, I would like to apologise..."

Love how he's only apologising for negative attention brought to the GAA, his team and their sponsors, rather than for calling for an innocent person to be "destroyed".

In an organisation I grew up in that I loved as a child, the GAA can stick it up their bums after letting Mickey Harte give a character reference for a convicted rapist and still be respected.

gormdubhgorm · 29-03-2018 01:50AM

fatknacker wrote: »

Well if nothing else, it's drawing the scummy sportsmen out of the woodwork and highlighting their gross attitudes toward women.

I think that is a little bit unfair both men are uneducated male sportmen and are well aware of the fact that the same thing could happen to them someday on any given night out.
Yes, their language is coarse and choice but that is the way young fellas of such backgrounds speak in everyday life.
You can be sure neither gentleman was ever in college with the debating team...

Personally I think the court case lifted the lid on the out of control binge drinking culture which was the main cause of the court case in the first place.
Worse still it seems to be accepted as normal when it is not.

That is far more shocking and saddening to me that in this island that people have to get blind drunk and call it a good time.

The girl was just as bad as the lads drinking that amount with complete disregard for his own safety.

major bill · 29-03-2018 01:50AM

pleas advice wrote: »

I'm not defending it, at all. but the people who had them written off as rapists from the start shouldn't be surprised if there is some backlash

Twitter certainly isn't the place to air that backlash especially from two sports people playing at a National level. How might Laois Women supporters of whom I am guessing some wouldn't agree with the verdict react to this. Might be a personal opinion by the lad but the minute he advertises the fact on his bio that he plays for Laois he is more or less representing them online so very silly tweeting something like that in a public domain.

diomed · 29-03-2018 04:05AM

What is most shocking is footballers think people are interested in their opinions.

Zebra3 · 29-03-2018 10:49AM

Is it any business of the clubs what these people post in their own time?

With regard to the Gah player, I assume he’s an amateur. What right have they to monitor or comment on his opinions?

The bloke playing for Drogheda is probably on €50 or €100 a week. Does this give Drogheda United a right to hold him to account for his comments outside of football?

Are we all accountable to our employers for our social media use?

Sidebaro · 29-03-2018 11:09AM

Zebra3 wrote:

Is it any business of the clubs what these people post in their own time?

If they post something controversial and people boycott matches, reducing ticket sales, then of course they're going to want to be seen to deal with it.

eviltwin · 29-03-2018 11:17AM

The thing I find most worrying is the amount of people assuming the woman in this case was a liar. I said it on the main thread and I will repeat it here, it's possible the woman involved did feel she was raped and the men involved believed it was consensual. Painting her as a liar is no different to painting them as rapists.

kneemos · 29-03-2018 11:28AM

The Lord protect and preserve us from any more rape trials and abortion referendums.

major bill · 29-03-2018 11:29AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Is it any business of the clubs what these people post in their own time?

With regard to the Gah player, I assume he’s an amateur. What right have they to monitor or comment on his opinions?

The bloke playing for Drogheda is probably on €50 or €100 a week. Does this give Drogheda United a right to hold him to account for his comments outside of football?

Are we all accountable to our employers for our social media use?

These guys weren't playing for RagBall Rovers though, they are representing both teams at a National Level. It's not like they were posting it on their Facebook where its more locked down to family and friends, they posted it on Twitter for everyone to see and twitter can be a very unforgiven place. Once they have their team advertised in their bio (Laois lad did anyway) that to me is a representation of that team and that teams values so I think they were right to come out and distance themselves.

Common sense like, think before you post online

Cork Lass · 29-03-2018 07:00PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Is it any business of the clubs what these people post in their own time?

With regard to the Gah player, I assume he’s an amateur. What right have they to monitor or comment on his opinions?

The bloke playing for Drogheda is probably on €50 or €100 a week. Does this give Drogheda United a right to hold him to account for his comments outside of football?

Are we all accountable to our employers for our social media use?

If their bio photo shows them wearing the club jersey, which Walshes does, then yes I do think it is the clubs business. Appalling comments by both of them to be fair.

Two clubs reactions to players' tweets about Belfast trial

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