Mary Magdelene the film

Graces7 · 26-03-2018 11:49AM

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

And ultimately destabilising the marriage and the basic unit of society which is the family. Back then there was no social welfare, no enforced child support, no means for a woman to take care of children of a marriage if it didn't work out and a father left. Forming a relationship with another woman was probably a huge threat. It had to be socially frowned upon in order to keep everything running ok.

Considering they had no contraception back then I wonder if prostitutes got pregnant alot and how all that worked.

See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_contraception

Goes back as far as ancient Egyptians

Graces7 · 26-03-2018 11:54AM

gozunda wrote: »

Fixed quotes above

Yes - as quoted the "Apostles apostle" ...

The church made priest's - not god or jesus
Many religions have absolutely no problem with women's ministry in religion. Looks like it's going that way here imo ....

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that only men can receive holy orders because Jesus chose men as his apostles, and the "apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry." Pope John Paul 1994

Pope Francis has just reaffimed no women priests and he is right; not going down that road again thankyou . And please reestablish that quote? Thank you"

gozunda · 26-03-2018 12:00PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Pope Francis has just reaffimed no women priests and he is right; not going down that road again thankyou . And please reestablish that quote? Thank you"

Fixed the first reply as everything appearing in a single quote from me. End / quote parenthes missing.

Ok pope Francis might not but he appears to be setting it up the groundwork for it at a future point in time imo

Defunkd · 26-03-2018 12:09PM

The film will prob have the "based on actual events" tag but aside from her name, very little is known. In other words, it's fiction and sounds boring to me.

biko · 26-03-2018 12:14PM

I read in Da Vinci Code (2003) Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute.
That's truth enough for me.

the purple tin · 26-03-2018 12:18PM

Graces7 wrote: »

See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_contraception

Goes back as far as ancient Egyptians

I read in a book about Jack the Ripper that a lot of victorian prostitutes would only use the back door so that they wouldn't get pregnant.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 26-03-2018 12:20PM

Graces7 wrote: »

See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_contraception

Goes back as far as ancient Egyptians

It was hardly effective and certainly unreliable.

lawred2 · 26-03-2018 12:23PM

Appledreams15 wrote: »

There is a new film in the cinema this week: Mary Magdelene.

At the end it stated that:
Mary Magdelene was incorrectly called a prostitute, and that the vatican have officially uplifted her status to 'apostle' in 2016, and given her a feast day.

Why was this not bigger news? I think that alot of the appalling treatment of women in Ireland, resulted from the Catholic Church incorrectly referring to women as prostitutes, evil, worthless etc.

The Catholic Church themselves have now said that this was incorrect and twisted, and have agreed that most accounts of Mary Magdelene say that she was a close advisor of Jesus, and they have officially upgraded her status to 'apostle of apostles'.
The vatican have released a press release on this.

I just spoke to yet another Irish woman who spoke of being sexually abused as a child. She described Ireland as 'a country of serial sex abuse'. Many Irish women of my generation had abusive childhoods.

I think one day Ireland will look back and be greatly shamed of its treatment of thousands of women.
Is this the end of the abuse of women in Ireland?

because nobody gives even the slightest sh*t

seamus · 26-03-2018 12:34PM

The move is getting pretty slated online. General gist I'm getting from both the professional critics and joe soap reviews is that it's an inoffensive and unremarkable movie about Jesus, cynically marketed under Mary Mags's name to make it look like a feminist or controversial retelling, of which it is neither.

houseplant · 26-03-2018 12:49PM

I knew a Fr. Clint Power, maybe she's having a go at him?

Grayson · 26-03-2018 12:53PM

seamus wrote: »

The move is getting pretty slated online. General gist I'm getting from both the professional critics and joe soap reviews is that it's an inoffensive and unremarkable movie about Jesus, cynically marketed under Mary Mags's name to make it look like a feminist or controversial retelling, of which it is neither.

I'd heard the same. Supposed to bring really dull. Which is a pity. She's an interesting character.

It's nuts that nearly two thousand years ago some guy decided he didn't like women and so she was called a prostitute.

Wibbs · 26-03-2018 01:26PM

biko wrote: »

I read in Da Vinci Code (2003) Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute.
That's truth enough for me.

Well according to the original gospel texts she wasn't. The problem was that back then Mary/Maryam was a very common name. Shout "Mary!" in a crowd in Jerusalem and a lot of heads would turn. To mark her out in the texts they add the Magdalene name. The prostitute/adulterer who is saved by Jesus(cast the first stone...) goes unnamed as does the "sinning woman" who anoints his feet. Neither of them are Mary Magdalene, but later stories lumped them all together. You see that in the various films of the life of Jesus. Magdalene becomes the archetypal "fallen woman" he saves. Of her backstory little is revealed, beyond he cured her and a few other women of "evil spirits" and that she traveled with the group(along with other women it seems).

In the original texts she's mentioned a lot, more than most figures and is present for the more important events and seems to have held high office within the group in the early days. She is close to his mother and looks after her and is the primary witness of the resurrection narrative. Given women weren't considered as reliable witnesses compared to men(we see a holdover of that within even current Islamic law) that stands out as unusual in itself. That she was there attending his grave another interesting angle. Never mind that all his bloke mates had run away in fear, yet the women and especially her didn't. They remained loyal to the him and the cause. That itself is unusual in the narrative as if it was being dreamed up as a story for the cultures of the time the men would have been the loyal ones and the witnesses*. The idea that she might have been his wife sounds pretty plausible as she certainly acts like "family".

*which for me suggests that quite a bit of the story has some basis in actual happenings. I'm not talking miracles or any of that, I mean the general stuff that is realistic. Finding the tomb empty for example. That could have many explanations that don't require the magical.

jiltloop · 26-03-2018 01:34PM

Appledreams15 wrote: »

There is a new film in the cinema this week: Mary Magdelene.

At the end it stated that:
Mary Magdelene was incorrectly called a prostitute, and that the vatican have officially uplifted her status to 'apostle' in 2016, and given her a feast day.

Why was this not bigger news? I think that alot of the appalling treatment of women in Ireland, resulted from the Catholic Church incorrectly referring to women as prostitutes, evil, worthless etc.

The Catholic Church themselves have now said that this was incorrect and twisted, and have agreed that most accounts of Mary Magdelene say that she was a close advisor of Jesus, and they have officially upgraded her status to 'apostle of apostles'.
The vatican have released a press release on this.

I just spoke to yet another Irish woman who spoke of being sexually abused as a child. She described Ireland as 'a country of serial sex abuse'. Many Irish women of my generation had abusive childhoods.

I think one day Ireland will look back and be greatly shamed of its treatment of thousands of women.
Is this the end of the abuse of women in Ireland?

I have to take issue with the last line of your op, I think the day has already arrived where there is shame in what went on in Ireland over the years through the Catholic church. However what really bothers me is that you seem to claim it was just women who suffered abuse, many many poor young boys also suffered abuse as well.

Mary Magdelene the film

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