EU want to do away with long summer evenings

facehugger99 · 25-03-2018 08:15AM #1

I love when the hour goes froward and hate when it goes back in October.

There's something inexpressibly great about it staying bright until 11pm at night in June.

But, did you know that this could be the last year that we get to enjoy it?

The Mandarins in the EU have decided, in their wisdom, to form a committee and review whether we should stop the practice.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0208/939344-clocks-eu-parliament/

No I'm no anti-EU ideologue, but this is BS from the EU!

Still at least it will be bright at 3am in the morning in June

said nobody ever!

25-03-2018 08:18AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

I love when the hour goes froward and hate when it goes back in October.

There's something inexpressibly great about it staying bright until 11pm at night in June.

But, did you know that this could be the last year that we get to enjoy it?

The Mandarins in the EU have decided, in their wisdom, to form a committee and review whether we should stop the practice.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0208/939344-clocks-eu-parliament/

No I'm no anti-EU ideologue, but this is BS from the EU!

Still at least it will be bright at 3am in the morning in June

said nobody ever!

Hardly the definition of a Mandarin to pubilically announce and then setup committee to discuss something.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 25-03-2018 08:22AM

**** the EU

pleas advice · 25-03-2018 08:27AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Hardly the definition of a Mandarin to pubilically announce and then setup committee to discuss something.

A great bunch of lads?

25-03-2018 08:27AM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

**** the EU

Did you read the article?
The EU have been petitioned by over 70000 people re the change and is setting up a group to study the potential impact of the change.

How dare they listen to people the bastards.

Danny Donut · 25-03-2018 08:28AM

Someone seems to review the hour change every few years.

Nothing ever seems to happen.

IMO we should just stay on summertime.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 25-03-2018 08:28AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Did you read the article?
The EU have been petitioned by over 70000 people re the change and is setting up a group to study the potential impact of the change.

How dare they listen to people the bastards.

monkey see, monkey do

25-03-2018 08:30AM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

monkey see, monkey do

Oh right you just reply to every message with nonsense. I see.

Now I understand the first reply

25-03-2018 08:32AM

It's going to throw my kids sleeping schedule out. Get rid of it, I'll be even more wrecked than usual tomorrow.

25-03-2018 08:32AM

pleas advice wrote: »

A great bunch of lads?

Yawn.

No in this context a mandarin can only mean the bolded description. which is actually the opposite use it would need to be used to describe the eu in this instance.

1.
the standard literary and official form of Chinese, spoken by over 730 million people.
2.
an official in any of the nine top grades of the former imperial Chinese civil service.
(of clothing) characteristic of a former Chinese mandarin.
modifier noun: mandarin
"a red-buttoned mandarin cap"
a porcelain ornament consisting of a nodding figure in traditional Chinese costume.
porcelain decorated with Chinese figures dressed as mandarins.
3.
a powerful official or senior bureaucrat, especially one perceived as reactionary and secretive.
"a civil service mandarin"

25-03-2018 08:34AM

I too love the bright evening until 11pm in mid summer.

But I'm not sure if its going to make a huge difference it only stays bright until 10pm in mid summer.

My problem is the dead of winter.

Right now in the dead of winter it does not get bright until 8.45am ish.

That would be 9.45am if the clocks did not change.

That would be mad.

And all you get is an hour back the other side of the day, so getting dark at 5.30 instead of 4.30, which will make feck all difference cos it would likely be wet anyway.

This is EU over reach, it's thinks like this why we have Brexit

Jim Bob Scratcher · 25-03-2018 08:35AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Oh right you just reply to every message with nonsense. I see.

Now I understand the first reply

Relax Leo

25-03-2018 08:36AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I too love the bright evening until 11pm in mid summer.

But I'm not sure if its going to make a huge difference it only stays bright until 10pm in mid summer.

My problem is the dead of winter.

Right now in the dead of winter it does not get bright until 8.45am ish.

That would be 9.45am if the clocks did not change.

That would be mad.

This is EU over reach, it's thinks like this why we have Brexit

Haha nonsense.

As an Irishman I have no Brexit. Thanks all the same pal.

pleas advice · 25-03-2018 08:41AM

Danny Donut wrote: »

Someone seems to review the hour change every few years.

Nothing ever seems to happen.

IMO we should just stay on summertime.

On that note...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA

dr.fuzzenstein · 25-03-2018 09:03AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Did you read the article?
The EU have been petitioned by over 70000 people re the change and is setting up a group to study the potential impact of the change.

How dare they listen to people the bastards.

That.
If anything this is a great example of the EU listening to what people want.
But these days it's fashionable to scream abuse about the EU, "blah blah, failed, blah blah German Overlords blah blah tinfoil hat". These people are just brainlessly parroting hate phrases they have learnt from Russian Twitter bots.
If you look at the history of Europe over the last 2000 years, there has never been a period of peace and prosperity like the last 70 years or so.
But it's much more fun for the brainless and unemployed classes to stand there and shout abuse about something they don't understand.

Sidebaro · 25-03-2018 09:14AM

I think it will really help with the mental health of people who bottle things up. It gives them a release, an opportunity to vent about something nonsense rather than the actual problems they have in life that they feel unable to face for whatever reason.

It's like the guy shouting abuse at a GAA match. Are you really that livid over whose sideline ball it is or are you just mad that your wife gets to go for a relaxing day at the spa and you can't because it's 'gay'?

Sky King · 25-03-2018 09:15AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I too love the bright evening until 11pm in mid summer.

But I'm not sure if its going to make a huge difference it only stays bright until 10pm in mid summer.

My problem is the dead of winter.

Right now in the dead of winter it does not get bright until 8.45am ish.

That would be 9.45am if the clocks did not change.

That would be mad.

And all you get is an hour back the other side of the day, so getting dark at 5.30 instead of 4.30, which will make feck all difference cos it would likely be wet anyway.

This is EU over reach, it's thinks like this why we have Brexit

That makes no sense. If changed, it means They would be leaving it year round on winter time, (which is the correct time).

Daylight saving time is spasticated imo. If you like brightness get up earlier.

andekwarhola · 25-03-2018 09:21AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Hardly the definition of a Mandarin to pubilically announce and then setup committee to discuss something.

Definitely the work of a satsuma.

facehugger99 · 25-03-2018 09:27AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Did you read the article?
The EU have been petitioned by over 70000 people re the change and is setting up a group to study the potential impact of the change.

How dare they listen to people the bastards.

70,000 people from Finland - yeah I read it.

Totally different situation in Finland to Ireland, but the change will be applied to all across the EU.

BTW, 70,000 people represent 0.01% of the EU population.

But sure, go democracy.

25-03-2018 09:29AM

Thread title needs changing I think.

Maybe there is something in the article that I missed but I didn't see where it suggested that we keep winter time all year round. Any article I've ever read suggests that if we stopped changing the clocks that we would have summer settings all year round

25-03-2018 09:31AM

I think that this is a great opportunity for a new EU tax. Simply apply a fee to anyone that wants to put the clock back or forward. Furthermore there could be a special license / permit required for anyone wanting to change the clock. This would have the added advantage of generating plenty of of admin type jobs too.

25-03-2018 09:32AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

70,000 people from Finland - yeah I read it.

Totally different situation in Finland to Ireland, but the change will be applied to all across the EU.

BTW, 70,000 people represent 0.01% of the EU population.

But sure, go democracy.

Oh it's only the finnish. Yeah i forgot how democratically they dont count as EU citizens. Go democracy facehugger style.

You sure your not angry about this because you dislike the EU or a little touch of xenophobia instead of a fear of abuse of your democratic rights?

Phoebas · 25-03-2018 09:33AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

My problem is the dead of winter.

Right now in the dead of winter it does not get bright until 8.45am ish.

That would be 9.45am if the clocks did not change.

You've got it the wrong way around.
The clocks were at standard time yesterday and changed to daylight savings time today.

Jawgap · 25-03-2018 09:34AM

so they are proposing brighter mornings?

......fewer days when you get up in darkness?

.....b@st@rds

25-03-2018 09:43AM

Phoebas wrote: »

You've got it the wrong way around.
The clocks were at standard time yesterday and changed to daylight savings time today.

Ok, so I do.

Yea I'm fine with is as long as it's not still dark at 9am in December.

I can live without the extra hour in the evening.

beertons · 25-03-2018 09:50AM

Brighter evenings, class. I'd be against putting the clocks back.

Akrasia · 25-03-2018 09:53AM

I think they should change the day to being 23 hours long. That way we all win

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 25-03-2018 09:53AM

Jawgap wrote: »

so they are proposing brighter mornings?

......fewer days when you get up in darkness?

.....b@st@rds

Only if you get up at about 4am.

doolox · 25-03-2018 09:58AM

Time zones as we know them started in the railway age when time keeping across large areas of the world became important. Up to then local time was set to suit each localities needs. You had a time when Dublin set their timepieces 8 minutes earlier than Galway in order to go with solar time.

In the 1860's or so the present arrangement of dividing the world up into 15 degree , 1 hour segments and nominating time zones, was brought about.

Ideally Irelands west coast belongs in a different time zone to Dublins.

The greenwich Mean Time GMT zone is 7 1/2 degrees east or west of the prime meridian , 0 degrees, at Greenwich. Galway should be 1 hour ahead of Dublin if we were to go by strict interpretation of time zones but it isn't as time zones are often stretched and widened to keep most countries in one time zone, except huge countries like the US, Russia or Canada which have several time zones.

One anomaly which occurs in time zones is that Portugal keeps the same time as us but Spain doesn't. This arises from the time when Franco changed the clocks to synchronise with Central European time in line with his allies in Germany but Portugal did not.

You therefore have the situation that places like Santiago de Compostela, Ferrol Vigo etc in Spains northwest corner are 1 hr ahead of neighbouring provinces in Portugal, although on the same meridian.

For places on the extreme west of Europe there is a strong case for adopting GMT -1, 1 hour behind London and 2 hours behind Paris so that we don't suffer the dark mornings we now do in winter, we should be getting up an hour later than London.
Unfortunately we have the system we have to suit the financial bosses who synchronise everything to London and Frankfurt meaning everybody in Ireland has to get up earlier than solar time or nature intends.

Our population and influence is just too small to be able to adopt a local time.

Even worse is Iceland on GMT although it is two time zones to the west of true, nautical GMT. Again a small local population and lack of influence allows this to happen.

Jawgap · 25-03-2018 09:59AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Only if you get up at about 4am.

Not quite......that may be the earliest sunrise, but staying on UTC year round means more mornings with earlier sunrises.

manonboard · 25-03-2018 10:03AM

Part of my job involves fixing computer systems that contain timezone issues, day light savings and the grey scale of time in countries which change it on a whim.

It would be wonderful to eliminate DST in the EU. It causes a rake of errors and mishaps in business. A few years ago the US changed when they change to DST. It happened two weeks ago for them. Now its back to - 5hr for EST.

These issues are a total waste of effort n are no longer needed in todays age. It's a legacy issue. Our financial systems would operate better without such nonsense.

EU want to do away with long summer evenings

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