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Buying bitcoins

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Bloomberg - Binance opening an office in Malta and going to introduce a fiat gateway.
    The company, founded last year in Hong Kong, is planning to open an office in Malta, Chief Executive Officer Zhao Changpeng said in an interview. Binance will soon start a “fiat-to-crypto exchange” on the European island nation, and is close to securing a deal with local banks that can provide access to deposits and withdrawals, he said, without providing a timeframe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Kuva



    Malta, part of the lands of shut up shop when a sufficient customer base is built and run with the money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Is there any exchange that specifically forbids wash trading? I was having a quick look at GDAX, bitfinex and Binance in the last hour, and it looks like there’s absolutely no organic trading taking place - just bots wash trading. Is there anyone actually buying bitcoin at the moment, or are they all just playing around with the magic money created by Tether?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Is there any exchange that specifically forbids wash trading? I was having a quick look at GDAX, bitfinex and Binance in the last hour, and it looks like there’s absolutely no organic trading taking place - just bots wash trading. Is there anyone actually buying bitcoin at the moment, or are they all just playing around with the magic money created by Tether?

    People use bots to trade. Even when using GUI on an exchange people are putting together quite complex buy and sell orders which is really just a more primitive form of automation. If you can say it in code, why waste time pressing buttons and staring at graphs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Kuva wrote: »
    Malta, part of the lands of shut up shop when a sufficient customer base is built and run with the money?
    Arent we still paying extra tax out of our pay cheques and insurance premiums for the various insurance scams emanating from Malta?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭makeorbrake


    Thargor wrote: »
    Arent we still paying extra tax out of our pay cheques and insurance premiums for the various insurance scams emanating from Malta?
    So regulation is failing us in conventional banking and insurance sectors still then?

    I don't necessarily have an issue with regulation of crypto stakeholders at all (despite a lot of negativity in that regard in recent months)...so long as it doesn't strangle crypto. However, I'm unsure how the hell it can be achieved with leakage into the system via tokens that don't necessarily interface with FIAT....the proponents of which base themselves out of grey area jurisdictions i.e. most notably, tether/british virgin islands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Even the tether magic dollars can’t keep the price of bitcoin up. Might get messy if it drops below 8k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Tinder Surprise


    Even the tether magic dollars can’t keep the price of bitcoin up. Might get messy if it drops below 8k.

    Just has and looks to have triggered a hell of a lot of automatic sell orders cause look at those red candles!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Just has and looks to have triggered a hell of a lot of automatic sell orders cause look at those red candles!!!

    It’s actually holding up better than I expected, at least for the moment. Some soft support at 7900.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    These pump and dumps are comical.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Such a low volume of real trading going on that when any significant volume is pushed out the bots rush the price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,665 ✭✭✭seannash


    Are we now below the low we saw in February


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Yeah we are well below that I think. We are below November prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Yeah we are well below that I think. We are below November prices.

    No, it dropped to around 6300 in Feb. And that was without Tether printing any of their 'one-to-one dollar backed' coins. The volumes are so low at the moment, and coinmarketcap is showing a worrying indicator - the volume of BTC/USD on bitfinex has gone from almost nothing to being the top traded pair on any exchange. Looks like an exit from the market to me, but could be calling it wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Tinder Surprise


    [QUOTE=Tinder Surprise;105916621not confirmed but some put the recent slump in Bitcoin prices last Tuesday down to the futures market, and there is another batch due to expire this Friday 26th so we're about to see if that theory is correct...


    futures.jpg[/QUOTE]

    Yesterday was the 29th :rolleyes:

    https://www.ccn.com/did-the-futures-market-negatively-affect-bitcoin-price-and-the-entire-industry/

    https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-exchange-okex-to-roll-back-trades-after-irregular-futures-plunge/

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    We're merely puppets in someone elses game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭wally1990




    We're merely puppets in someone elses game.

    So true !!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,233 ✭✭✭wally1990




    We're merely puppets in someone elses game.

    So true !!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Member that time we were all going to be rich :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,296 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Remember when Bitcoin ETFs, Institutional money and Wall Street bonuses were the fuel to light the rocket and Bitcoin was a store of wealth!
    On a serious note, I have bought back in over the last few days and on previous dips!
    Hoping that each dip would be the bottom ;) but its just been a downward spiral.
    That said, I've reduced my cost per coin across the board and should we have an upswing I'll see a benefit that much sooner.
    I'm in an ok position and the funds will not disposable, arent needed anytime soon so rather than trade out and crystallizing any loss I'm happy to try and HODL through this phase.
    I've consolidated my holdings to a mix of BTC/BCH/ETH/ETC/XRP/LTC with smaller holdings of ADA and ICX.

    I still have faith in crypto, we need some market clarity to allow the USDT issue to be resolved.
    I've posted before about how difficult a market driven by sentiment is to judge or predict and this dip only confirms that belief for me.
    So much good news for the utility and adoption of certain coins, that in a rational market would drive prices up and yet the dip continues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    Same here, for the first time in about 9 months I've added new money to my Crypto fund. I bought only €300 worth of Bitcoin/ETH/Litecoin as I think we are close enough to the bottom now.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Same here, for the first time in about 9 months I've added new money to my Crypto fund. I bought only €300 worth of Bitcoin/ETH/Litecoin as I think we are close enough to the bottom now.

    Not sure whether or not we're hitting the bottom yet. I've some fiat waiting in the side lines and will buy in again once I see a couple of stable weeks. I'm currently using EUR/ETH when exchanging FIAT, and looking at the depth charts on GDAX, i don't see the decline going much past €265 as things currently stand. BTC/USD has a similar shape to its volume though less pronounced, but the buy volumes are currently looking much larger than the sell volumes in around that price point. Still reading tea-leaves of course as this can all change very quickly, hence my reluctance to purchase without seeing a stable period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭at9qu5vp0wcix7


    I caught it at $6600 yesterday - I hope to sell again in the coming days. The 'bottom' will be 2-3k IMO.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    I caught it at $6600 yesterday - I hope to sell again in the coming days. The 'bottom' will be 2-3k IMO.

    Small gains today, but I'd tend to agree that there's a fair chance it could drop a good bit further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭h0neybadger


    I caught it at $6600 yesterday - I hope to sell again in the coming days. The 'bottom' will be 2-3k IMO.

    it can't hit 2-3k. no miner can possibly run if that price happens due to overhead costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭GarIT


    it can't hit 2-3k. no miner can possibly run if that price happens due to overhead costs.

    It realistically can, for a short period a lot of miners will keep going on the assumption they can sell the coins later for more than the current price. Over a longer period some may drop off until it recovers. Bitcoin or any other crypto can go to €0, miners can stop mining the network can collapse and thses coins can cease to exist as easily as they started.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    GarIT wrote: »
    . Over a longer period some may drop off until it recovers. Bitcoin or any other crypto can go to €0, miners can stop mining the network can collapse and thses coins can cease to exist as easily as they started.

    Have you never heard mining difficulty?

    In short:
    Miners drops off - difficulty reduces - mining becomes profitable again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭h0neybadger


    Have you never heard mining difficulty?

    In short:
    Miners drops off - difficulty reduces - mining becomes profitable again

    It’s not that simple. Difficulty changes every x amount of blocks. If the bulk of miners shutoff, the block solving time increases. Until that x amount of blocks has been solved, the difficulty remains the same.
    That’s why there was a fear before that if a very large portion of miners did shutoff together, it would freeze the block chain.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    It’s not that simple. Difficulty changes every x amount of blocks. If the bulk of miners shutoff, the block solving time increases. Until that x amount of blocks has been solved, the difficulty remains the same.
    That’s why there was a fear before that if a very large portion of miners did shutoff together, it would freeze the block chain.

    Is this a problem primarily for Bitcoin as the most difficult coin to mine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭h0neybadger


    smacl wrote: »
    Is this a problem primarily for Bitcoin as the most difficult coin to mine?

    Pretty much. But I believe it could happen to any coin if the number of miners dropped enough.

    When BCH launched, there was fear too many miners would move over under Bitmain’s attempt to stall Bitcoin mining.
    If they succeeded, and enough miners moved to the new coin, bitcoin would have stopped there and then.

    But thankfully, people were smart enough to realise what they were trying to do, and faith in bitcoin didn’t drop.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Shauny2010


    Bitcoin Cash has implemented dynamic difficulty algorithm so it will always stay profitable to mine.
    Bitcoin had miners at $1000 Last year so I'm sure they will still be there.
    I'm also sure the doomsters were saying the same thing when Bitcoin first hit $1000 then fell back.


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