Journalism and cycling

Pinch Flat · 19-03-2018 09:44AM

I had two interesting interactions in work. One, a senior member of staff when seeing me arrive in my cycling gear, asked if I’d broken every red light on that way in. Was also at a social evening a few weeks back when a client of ours was insistent that all cyclists were ignorant cnuts (his words) and should be banned from the roads.

Lumen · 19-03-2018 09:54AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I had two interesting interactions in work. One, a senior member of staff when seeing me arrive in my cycling gear, asked if I’d broken every red light on that way in.

"No, I think they're all still working. Dah-dum...tish!"

tomasrojo · 19-03-2018 12:07PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I had two interesting interactions in work. One, a senior member of staff when seeing me arrive in my cycling gear, asked if I’d broken every red light on that way in.

There's a lot wrong in that interaction, especially as the disparity in workplace power (presuming you're not a senior member yourself) means you can't say something appropriately cutting back.

Kaisr Sose · 19-03-2018 01:59PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

usual routine tonight. had the in laws around with some of their friends (who are reasonable people) and as soon as cycling is mentioned, get the 'but cyclists can be...' spiel. being the host meant my ability to respond robustly was limited.

Being a Moderator, why not issue yellow cards or out right ban from the forum (i.e. house)

Lemming · 19-03-2018 03:01PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

usual routine tonight. had the in laws around with some of their friends (who are reasonable people) and as soon as cycling is mentioned, get the 'but cyclists can be...' spiel. being the host meant my ability to respond robustly was limited.

Let them rant and rave, say nothing and smile. Once they've finished, ask them if they'd like a tour of the garage/shed and let the awkward silence ensue once they see the contents :pac:

tomasrojo · 19-03-2018 05:35PM

Lemming wrote: »

Let them rant and rave, say nothing and smile. Once they've finished, ask them if they'd like a tour of the garage/shed and let the awkward silence ensue once they see the contents :pac:

Arrange that when they leave a bunch of people with a variety of bikes surround them, pointing and emitting an eerie shriek. When they turn to you for help, Donald Sutherland them.

21-03-2018 12:38AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/new-bicycle-storage-rules-for-apartments-not-enough-says-planner-1.3432956?mode=amp

Not much substance to this piece but I at least wasn't aware of plans to require developers to provide secure bike facilities in apartments.

Grassey · 21-03-2018 10:53AM

http://www.thejournal.ie/roads-death-boy-killed-3915249-Mar2018/

GARDAÍ IN MEATH are investigating a fatal road traffic collision that left a teen dead.

buffalo · 21-03-2018 01:24PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

i like to think of us as a mafia.
cross us, and you'll find a headset in your bed.

Whose bed did you leave a headset in?

http://irishcycle.com/2018/03/21/south-dublin-quietway-meeting-cancelled-as-claim-cycling-lobby-planned-hijacking/

A planned meeting today which was open to “all residents of Dublin 6” to discuss the proposed South Dublin Quietway is cancelled according to its organiser because it was feared that cyclists were going to hijack the event.

'oh no, people who disagree with me might come to my public meeting - time to cancel it!'

amcalester · 21-03-2018 01:31PM

buffalo wrote: »

Whose bed did you leave a headset in?

http://irishcycle.com/2018/03/21/south-dublin-quietway-meeting-cancelled-as-claim-cycling-lobby-planned-hijacking/

'oh no, people who disagree with me might come to my public meeting - time to cancel it!'

The cynic in me would suggest that there was no such fear but by cancelling it and blaming it on cyclists the organizers are capitalizing on the (perceived) general disliking of cyclists.

Fian · 21-03-2018 02:11PM

Not sure whether this one qualifies for this thread or not.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/my-husband-said-he-was-on-a-health-buzz-but-he-was-just-cycling-to-the-pub-1.3423912

Thud · 21-03-2018 02:43PM

credit to them for covering it but is that the only stock picture they could find
https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/nicholas-roche-itll-be-hard-to-shift-valverde-in-the-mountains-now-36726896.html

Hurrache · 21-03-2018 05:25PM

Ivan Yates going to have a piece about cyclists now, based on a text about cyclists he said he received yesterday. Top class journalism by the sounds of it, ably stepping into Hook's shoes.

mr spuckler · 21-03-2018 05:27PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Ivan Yates going to have a piece about cyclists now, based on a text about cyclists he said he received yesterday. Top class journalism by the sounds of it, ably stepping into Hook's shoes.

the day after a young cyclist dies

I really hope it's more balanced and reasoned than the usual nonsense.

what_traffic · 21-03-2018 05:47PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Ivan Yates going to have a piece about cyclists now, based on a text about cyclists he said he received yesterday. Top class journalism by the sounds of it, ably stepping into Hook's shoes.

Have to say Richie Oakley did well, tryed to steer Ivan Yates away from his usual daft pontifications on the matter.

amcalester · 21-03-2018 05:49PM

what_traffic wrote: »

Have to say Richie Oakley did well, tryed to steer Ivan Yates away from his usual daft pontifications on the matter.

I heard Richie on Newstalk before, but on Breakfast with Paul Williams, and he was great at not letting the conversation divert from what he was there to discuss.

That time it was the MPDL.

AndrewJRenko · 22-03-2018 12:20AM

buffalo wrote: »

Whose bed did you leave a headset in?

http://irishcycle.com/2018/03/21/south-dublin-quietway-meeting-cancelled-as-claim-cycling-lobby-planned-hijacking/

'oh no, people who disagree with me might come to my public meeting - time to cancel it!'

Did I read it correctly and see that the public meeting was to be held in somebody's front room? Only in Dublin 6 I guess.

Corca Baiscinn · 22-03-2018 09:21PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Did I read it correctly and see that the public meeting was to be held in somebody's front room? Only in Dublin 6 I guess.

No, the Mageough home is a Retirement Home! Presume they have a Community Hall or something they hire out. Now if they had a trishaw for residents, they might come on board with the Quietway and have Cowper Road residents trained as volunteers!

Duckjob · 23-03-2018 10:10AM

Hurrache wrote: »

Ivan Yates going to have a piece about cyclists now, based on a text about cyclists he said he received yesterday. Top class journalism by the sounds of it, ably stepping into Hook's shoes.

When you hear one of the speakers being introduced as a "cycling zealot" and the other as "the voice of reason", hopes for an intelligent balanced discourse on the subject of cycling don't get too high....

Then again, generating intelligent balanced discourse is not something Ivan Yates has much ability for, and he would rather go the lowest common denominator trolling route.

tomasrojo · 23-03-2018 11:13AM

Yates reminds me of one of those slightly creepy guys your dad was friendly with in college and somehow can't shake off in later life.

tomasrojo · 23-03-2018 11:23AM

On the positive side, I don't imagine him sitting at home at night putting dictator stickers in his Panini album, like Hook.

CramCycle · 23-03-2018 11:45AM

I didn't hear all of it but Henry McKean went out with a Deliveroo cyclist. About as balanced a discussion on cycling in Dublin as you'll get from Newstalk.

I think he points out everyone parked in the cycling lane and turns to the delivery guy and asks him is it always like this with people parked in the cycle lane and the horrendous potholes, and he says yes. Sin e.

tomasrojo · 23-03-2018 11:51AM

Anytime I hear him, HMcK does seem to actually listen to what the other person is saying. And give them plenty of time to say it.

Tenzor07 · 23-03-2018 12:56PM

Some terrible news, hope the woman recovers...

Ignore the comments section, the onslaught will be Brutal...

http://www.thejournal.ie/woman-critical-collision-cyclist-3920019-Mar2018/

QueensGael · 23-03-2018 01:04PM

The poor woman, sounds very serious if she was transferred to Beaumont, I hope she recovers

splinter65 · 23-03-2018 01:09PM

QueensGael wrote: »

The poor woman, sounds very serious if she was transferred to Beaumont, I hope she recovers

The poor woman has died. Very sad.

splinter65 · 23-03-2018 01:12PM

splinter65 wrote: »

The poor woman has died. Very sad.

Sorry that’s just been corrected. Not dead at all. Hopefully she’ll pull through.

Amirani · 23-03-2018 01:18PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Sorry that’s just been corrected. Not dead at all. Hopefully she’ll pull through.

Hopefully she does recover alright.

Hopefully as well whatever horrible individual it was that decided to cycle off after hitting someone is tracked down and has the book thrown at them. It's one of the lowest things someone can do, regardless of who was at fault and whether you were cycling/driving or whatever.

splinter65 · 23-03-2018 01:20PM

Amirani wrote: »

Hopefully she does recover alright.

Hopefully as well whatever horrible individual it was that decided to cycle off after hitting someone is tracked down and has the book thrown at them. It's one of the lowest things someone can do, regardless of who was at fault and whether you were cycling/driving or whatever.

Heartless.

buffalo · 23-03-2018 01:29PM

Amirani wrote: »

Hopefully she does recover alright.

Hopefully as well whatever horrible individual it was that decided to cycle off after hitting someone is tracked down and has the book thrown at them. It's one of the lowest things someone can do, regardless of who was at fault and whether you were cycling/driving or whatever.

Did they leave the scene? I haven't seen mention of that.

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