Journalism and cycling

On a separate note, driving school before they can even cycle.....the full circle of car dependency is nearing completion

https://www.dublinlive.ie/whats-on/family-kids-news/tayto-park-driving-course-kids-14386581

tomasrojo wrote: »

ED E wrote: »

This is almost the exact same except cycle tracks both are and aren't lanes under the nebulous RTAs.

Yeah, I've never been clear whether cycle tracks are separate lanes or not. But I know that people have been warning for years that "inviting" cyclists to go up the inside of HGVs and buses would end in tragedy.

According to the NTA interpretation of the law, the legal position is that traffic going straight on the main road, have right of way over traffic exiting the road - exiting traffic MUST yield to cyclists going straight.
Direct Quote: "Legal status - Cycle traffic as well as other traffic on the main road must have right of way. Turning motorised traffic leaving the main road is required to yield to cyclists"
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/downloads/archive/provision_of_cycling_facilities_ch4_2006.pdf

buffalo wrote: »

Any ideas what that legal status is based on?

It is not based on law. It is only a design guide.

The phrase 'Legal status' suggests they have interpreted some piece of legislation to mean this. It's not an aspirational or future goal, nor a recommendation. I'd be interested in knowing what piece of legislation they're reading.

Steoller wrote: »

According to the NTA interpretation of the law, the legal position is that traffic going straight on the main road, have right of way over traffic exiting the road - exiting traffic MUST yield to cyclists going straight.
Direct Quote: "Legal status - Cycle traffic as well as other traffic on the main road must have right of way. Turning motorised traffic leaving the main road is required to yield to cyclists"
https://www.nationaltransport.ie/downloads/archive/provision_of_cycling_facilities_ch4_2006.pdf

I'm almost 60 years old and I have always believed that the person or vehicle going straight on has right of way. So if you are at an uncontrolled junction a vehicle turning at that junction must yield to you, whether you are a pedestrian, cyclist or motorist. Someone correct me if I am wrong

Hurrache wrote: »

Read some tweets on a story regarding the long Luas being taken out of service, someone actually commented that this is what happens when you let cyclists do the planning. I blame our education system.

If cyclists planned Luas Cross City, they must be a masochistic lot.

ED E wrote: »

Yep, definitely planned by the two wheel brigade....

The cycling agenda at play...

Don't forget entitled and militant.

ford2600 wrote: »

Had the cyclist been a little less law abiding she might still be alive; by jumping lights as soon as it was safe to do so. From memory a disproportionate number of women die in collisions with trucks in London.

Here is a discussion from
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/why-women-seem-to-be-more-vulnerable-around-traffic-blackspots-in-london-10341420.html

That's an interesting article, it takes a much broader and more considered approach to the question of why more women die in collisions with trucks than most of the articles I've read on or around that topic.

Related to that question, the suggestion that women die *because* they obey red lights, originated from media reporting of a leaked TfL report from many years ago. I'm not suggesting that this is what you are saying, incidentally, but it's a persistent theory that can creep into and influence any discussion where the death of a female cyclist is mentioned. For some reason, despite the ludicrous nature of the suggestion, it stuck, and gets trotted out still as if it were an indisputable fact.

TfL produced a subsequent report in 2007 (LINK) which delved into the stats more thoroughly and stated amongst other things:

1.2 Articles have emerged recently in The Times, The Guardian and The Evening Standard stating that women are more likely to be killed or seriously injured while cycling as they obey the law and wait whilst traffic lights are red. The media claim that this is supported by an unpublished TfL report which states that 86% of female cyclist fatalities in London involved a heavy goods vehicle turning left at a junction. This traffic note sets out to test a second hypothesis by distinguishing the gender of cyclists that ride through red lights.

When a comparison is made of the behaviour of male and female cyclists it can be concluded that men are slightly more likely to violate red lights (17% compared to 13%).

Which chimes with the tone of the Standard article above, with statements in that article like:

Lloyd offers a note of caution, however, about instructing women to change their behaviour: “Women are generally more careful than men, so our focus should be ‘what’s wrong with lorries?’ not ‘what’s wrong with women cyclists?’”

Anyone know any journalists writing about todays domestic bike races? You'd get more coverage on the 1976 Rapport tour

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Front?

Somewhere in there is a Monty Python parody about splitters and people's fronts.

Lycra clad MAMILS