Irish and Proud.

milehip wrote: »

Exactly,Nationalism make you take pride in stuff you haven't done and hate people you've never met.

A patriot loves his country, a nationalist hates everyone else's.

Grayson wrote: »

Is that "love" rational?

is any "love" rational?

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Does any of the young ones know why we'r all so proud to be Irish!?
You wont learn any of this on facebook kids.
Anyway just sharing a memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1l-eLB_Idw

You're proud to be Irish. Nothing wrong with that. But to illustrate your pride you have chosen a clip that reflects credit on neither side.

And it behoves some posters here to acknowledge that the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that the Gibraltar Three could have been taken alive, and that the coverage by the scummier sections of the British media was egregious, especially the treatment of Carmen Proetta. The silly argument here as to whether this was a world story is utterly irrelevant,

Having said that, you, Mr Quenton should acknowledge that the clear intent of the three was worse than what was done to them. Your other posts suggest that you equate Irish with Catholic, giving you something in common with ISIS. Nothing wrong with being Catholic per se, but it's a wonder you have never informed yourself on your church's concept of what constitutes a just war. Because the IRA 's "armed struggle" in Northern Ireland fails that test by a mile.

Sam Quentin wrote: »

My religious faith and my pride are not up for discussion. There's lots of things that make me proud to be Irish and there's lots of things that make me proud to be Irish catholic. The fight for Irish freedom by Irish Catholics is just one that comes to mind..
I'm actually buzzing today at the news that the Popes visit to Ireland has been confirmed..

what about the fight for irish freedom by irish protestants?

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I'm specifically taking about MY religion and MY pride at being Irish.

And you are running away from the main issues:

1. that your vision of Irishness is sectarian,

and

2. That you cannot square your support for an illegal terrorist organisation with your much-proclaimed allegiance to Catholicism.

You want to deliver a sermon from the pulpit while denying people a right of reply. No Sir. You are not living in the 1950s now.

Your supposed to carry out the terrorist attack and then get shot dead....terrorist fail.

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I'm specifically talking about MY religion and MY pride at being Irish.

Your religion frowns upon your sin of pride.
https://catholicexchange.com/right-wrong-deadly-sin-pride
https://www.catholic.org/lent/story.php?id=33034
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/dictionary/index.cfm?id=35765

This may be helpful. Some sage advice on overcoming the 'mother of all root sins':
https://www.spiritualdirection.com/2010/12/30/how-can-i-overcome-the-root-sin-of-pride

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Does any of the young ones know why we'r all so proud to be Irish!?
You wont learn any of this on facebook kids.
Anyway just sharing a memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1l-eLB_Idw

So in summary three IRA lads out on operations in Gibraltar get shot by the British special forces = operation was a failure

So why are they celebrated they failed they did not even inspire the county like the 'glorious failure' of 1916

In soccer parlance it could not even be classed as a 1970's Irish football 'moral victory'.

What did they win a United Ireland? = No

A cuddly toy even? = No

Surely a bit of shamrock? = no

It is just another long list of military c*ck ups where the British forces defeat the brave losing Irish.

Worse still the plonkers up there in stormont are sitting on thier @rses when they have the chance of power, pretending it is about an Irish language act.

Yeah makes me real proud.... :rolleyes:

Sinn Fein could really banjax T.May's government by getting rid of thier ridiculous, pointless, abstentionist policy.

But they don't /won't makes me real proud.... :rolleyes:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Out of interest, what makes you proud to be a catholic? I found it a very limiting and restrictive experience to be honest.

This is one of the few times I have ever agreed with you on boards!

jaxxx wrote: »

Pride? Irish? Cannot say those two words have ever entered the same continuity of existence at the same time if I'm being honest.

You are going to **** yourself next time you are in the bakery section of the supermarket

jaxxx wrote: »

Aside from the fact that the Catholic Church is pretty much the most corrupt organisation in the entire history of our species. But I digress.

Pride? Irish? Cannot say those two words have ever entered the same continuity of existence at the same time if I'm being honest. Being Irish is just circumstantial. Don't really see how one can be proud of something circumstantial. Proud of myself as a person, but Irish? There's no logic in that for me. But that's just me.

Depends on the bread you eat




I am still unsure whether this thread is a skit or not.
Proud to be Irish fair enough.
Bur proud to be Irish for reasons the OP has given that is very confused celebrating a failed half @rsed mission to kill civilians....foiled by British special forces I don't get it.

Any gobsh*te can get shot.
If they succeeded in killing British Royalty or military personnel in a well planned scheme and lived to tell the tale then I might see the argument.

But to equate Irish pride to fellas that failed in a mission to kill civilians, and got killed by the other side is a sick joke.

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

You are going to **** yourself next time you are in the bakery section of the supermarket

damn got there before me spend too long deciding which bread I like