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Today I did something to my bike thread...

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,378 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i've done the same. 'oh, i'll hold on to these worn out jockey wheels for that precise situation where i will need a worn out set of jockey wheels'.
    i still have them. free to a good home, must collect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Just a good clean of both today. I put flat pedals on Scott Eile for now until I collect the other Look pedals. Swapped on some tyres too, the Michelin Service Course 4's are now toast but 5k kms on them and I'm heavy plus I always have them inflated to max recommended. No problem with punctures at all until this week when I got two but the tyres really have seen better days.

    Definitely going to order them again. I do have a set with green sidewalls that only have a few hundred kms on them but couldn't bring myself to put them on the new bike


    Also completely disassembled the rear hub, cleaned and lubed it up. I put gearbox oil on it last winter and it was still running perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,655 ✭✭✭secman


    After a bad 2 months of back ache, penned in last Sat for my next come back spin, up bright and early, took bike out of shed, pumped up the wheels, that bike was last used about a month ago. I usually back spin the pedals, chain jumped off, back on , back spin, off again. Took wheel off, cassette was stuck fast on the hub. Stock fulcrum wheels, out of frustration I sprayed a lot of lube on the cassette. Had been planning on getting a mid range wheelset for that bike for the spring/summer and holding stock wheels for the foul season. Had a few errands to do so managed to call into CSS in late afternoon, decided on a Zonda wheelset, ossie Mike said if I brought up old wheel he would swap the cassette. Back to house, couldn't believe the amount of lube on it, too embarrassed to bring up to CSS in that condition, decided a good cleaning was in order, guess what , the hub had unstuck and was spinning nicely ;). Back to CSS with the spotless wheel, Mike swapped out the ultegra cassette on to the Zonda and put a 105 cassete on fulcrum stock wheel. Too late to get out so brought new wheelset and a set of conti gp4000 and tubes to wexford and put them on on Sat night. First time ever to get a blow out in the kitchen with a pinched tube :). Managed get out on Sun with a 40 km spin . Brought them back up and Look forward to trying out Zondas when the weather improves, I'll leave stock wheels on the Planet X for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    Stripped the bike down and cleaned the frame

    Replaced the bottom bracket and replaced the gear cables

    Still have to redo brake cables and put new bar tape on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    Started my groupet swap. Stripped the Sora levers and bar tape off the commute bike and fitted 2nd hand Ultegra levers. Realised that these were previously set up with the rear brake on the right lever and so managed to figure out how to swap the cables over.
    Couldn’t get more done as light was fading and there’s no light in the shed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭TychoCaine


    Couldn’t get more done as light was fading and there’s no light in the shed
    There’s plenty of light in the living room! She won’t mind. Honest! :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,378 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Couldn’t get more done as light was fading and there’s no light in the shed
    real mechanics do it in the dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    TychoCaine wrote: »
    There’s plenty of light in the living room! She won’t mind. Honest! :D

    been there, done that. She does!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    real mechanics do it in the dark.

    I've a way to go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    Project just ground to a halt.. the dust cap screw on my new crank is missing and the old one doesn't fit. Used live chat with CRC to see if it should be there - they don't have one but have given me credit to get one. Also found that the clamp adapter to fit a brazo on front mech onto a band on bike is too small - I need a 34.9mm one.
    Having trouble removing a pedal from the old crank as well, so it's off to LBS for help...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    been there, done that. She does!

    I was living with an old gf years ago. Got snared with a load of car parts in the dishwasher, it went down like a fart at a funeral. Still the bits were nice and clean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Washing oil off cobblelock bricks in the dishwasher was very effective. Unfortunately you could hear the wheels of the racks grinding on left over sand for about 6 months afterwards...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭triggermortis


    cdaly_ wrote: »
    Washing oil off cobblelock bricks in the dishwasher was very effective. Unfortunately you could hear the wheels of the racks grinding on left over sand for about 6 months afterwards...

    That's a good idea for cleaning my old parts - once she's left for work!!

    LBS sorted me out with all I need. All I have left to do now is fit the chain and gear cables (and probably go back to LBS again for them to sort it all properly)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭triggermortis



    LBS sorted me out with all I need. All I have left to do now is fit the chain and gear cables (and probably go back to LBS again for them to sort it all properly)

    Crystal ball is 100%. Bike now in LBS after I lost all patience setting up new gears.
    I did sort my good bike and the winter one before this so I don’t feel too bad, plus I like to support my local shop


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,378 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    took my chain off this evening and gave it a good scrub with a toothbrush in degreaser (or whatever that bike cleaning fluid you get in dealz is - no complaints about how good it is anyway). the amount of grit and crud which came off it was quite impressive, even though i like to think i was operating a reasonably healthy chain cleaning regime. but the last few weeks have been really, really mucky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    took my chain off this evening and gave it a good scrub with a toothbrush in degreaser (or whatever that bike cleaning fluid you get in dealz is - no complaints about how good it is anyway). the amount of grit and crud which came off it was quite impressive, even though i like to think i was operating a reasonably healthy chain cleaning regime. but the last few weeks have been really, really mucky.

    Once I have this assignment finished this afternoon I'll be doing the same. Although I am hoping to have to change my chain soon so I can buy a gold one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Luxman


    I was reasonably diligent with my chain and cassette the last few weeks. However I was prompted to gave the chainrings a going over a few days ago. Oh my god, the crap that came out between large and small (right where the chain runs across) was manky, please floss between them, then floss again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I've ordered a new chain/cassette/master link pliers and cassette removal tool. It'll be my first replacement of the lot on this bike. The chain definitely needs replacement, and maybe the cassette. I have about 3000km on the bike so far. I think I'll take everything off and replace the chain at very least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    How do you know when your cassette needs to be replaced? Is there a rule of thumb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭MicktheMan


    Weepsie wrote: »
    When it starts looking like this

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    Sorry, no help.

    It depends on how good your cleaning is, how much your doing and how often your changing the chain

    LOL, I had many a "cassette" do that in my walkman back in the day:).

    The thing is I regularly clean/lube the chain but was surprised to see my chain gone to 1% stretch with relatively few km's on it compared to previous chains. I'm wondering if the cassette needs replacement or are there any other reasons for short chain life.
    I normally replace the chain at 0.75% stretch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Alek




    Shimano 10s 11-42 cassette + Sora 9s short (sic!) mech = works!

    Its not perfect, but whatever ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    I've ordered a new chain/cassette/master link pliers and cassette removal tool. It'll be my first replacement of the lot on this bike. The chain definitely needs replacement, and maybe the cassette. I have about 3000km on the bike so far. I think I'll take everything off and replace the chain at very least.

    Right, so I replaced my chain only. Comparing the new cassette and the old side by side there wasn't a huge difference. I'm going to see how I fair for the next while.

    The job was easy... until I made a mistake. I had it all done, and the cogs/gears cleaned and chain attached. Started to move the pedals around and it sounded like a cement mixer. Added some lube with little effect. Realised that I had threaded the chain through the rear mech incorrectly and it was rubbing. Not to worry, unclip the quick-link chain and thread it through. But I lost one side of the link... had to use the old one... I'll search the floor of the garage in more detail over the weekend! Raging.

    Anyway. All good now, hopefully my cycle tomorrow will go without issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,299 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    Right, so I replaced my chain only. Comparing the new cassette and the old side by side there wasn't a huge difference. I'm going to see how I fair for the next while.

    The job was easy... until I made a mistake. I had it all done, and the cogs/gears cleaned and chain attached. Started to move the pedals around and it sounded like a cement mixer. Added some lube with little effect. Realised that I had threaded the chain through the rear mech incorrectly and it was rubbing. Not to worry, unclip the quick-link chain and thread it through. But I lost one side of the link... had to use the old one... I'll search the floor of the garage in more detail over the weekend! Raging.

    Anyway. All good now, hopefully my cycle tomorrow will go without issue.
    . Been there done that :D on both counts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭coach22


    Right, so I replaced my chain only. Comparing the new cassette and the old side by side there wasn't a huge difference. I'm going to see how I fair for the next while.

    doubt you needed to replace the cassette after 3,000 kms. Handy to have a spare one anyway. I read before that you usually go through 3 chains before needing to replace a cassette


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Hungrycol


    Get yourself a chain measuring tool. If your chain is worn could will likely need to replace the cassette too. Yes you can also use a tape measure but a chain checker is quicker and more accurate. I use KMC chains from CRC, good variety and found them to be the best with my Shimano system.

    Also get yourself a chainwasher machine thingy and some petrol (don't use in your garden cos you'll kill the grass :o). It's a brilliant quick fix but remember to lube the chain well after cos the petrol it will really strip the chain.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,378 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    last time i had to completely rinse a chain clean, i just dropped it into a nearly empty 2.5l container of white spirits and shook it gently. a little cheaper than the above; but as you say, it will strip pretty much all lube off the chain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    People always wonder why chains don't last.

    Here is what KMC say about cleaning chain; if you look it up Campagnola say similar. The people pushing degreasers and chain cleaners are the people selling them...

    Clean your chain after every ride, especially after riding in the wet.
    Always use a piece of dry cloth to clean the chain.
    Do not forget the sprockets, front changer and derailleur pulleys.
    To remove mud or sand, use the bristle brush (which comes with every 120ml packing of KMC’s chain lube Pro), use light soapy warm water, if necessary.
    Do not use acidic or alkali based detergents (such as rust cleaners), these can damage the chain and may cause breakage.
    Do not dip your chain in (aggressive) degreasers - they remove the remaining grease from the chain’s bearings, and may cause cracks. They are also bad for our environment.
    If the chain is really dirty and difficult to clean, besides using a brush for the inside, try putting some solvent on a cloth and use it to clean the chain’s exterior.
    Try to avoid a so-called ‘chain washing machine’ in combination with solvent. This will instantly ruin your chain.
    Some lubricant brands advise you to completely degrease the chain, KMC does not recommend this.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,378 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i should point out that when i cleaned the chain as per the above, if you'd thrown spuds at it, they'd have stuck. would have taken hours to clean it in the normal fashion. i got another 2.5k out of it after cleaning it, before my chain wear tool indicated .75% wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,246 ✭✭✭Hungrycol


    ford2600 wrote: »
    People always wonder why chains don't last.

    Here is what KMC say about cleaning chain; if you look it up Campagnola say similar. The people pushing degreasers and chain cleaners are the people selling them...

    Clean your chain after every ride, especially after riding in the wet.
    Always use a piece of dry cloth to clean the chain.
    Do not forget the sprockets, front changer and derailleur pulleys.
    To remove mud or sand, use the bristle brush (which comes with every 120ml packing of KMC’s chain lube Pro), use light soapy warm water, if necessary.
    Do not use acidic or alkali based detergents (such as rust cleaners), these can damage the chain and may cause breakage.
    Do not dip your chain in (aggressive) degreasers - they remove the remaining grease from the chain’s bearings, and may cause cracks. They are also bad for our environment.
    If the chain is really dirty and difficult to clean, besides using a brush for the inside, try putting some solvent on a cloth and use it to clean the chain’s exterior.
    Try to avoid a so-called ‘chain washing machine’ in combination with solvent. This will instantly ruin your chain.
    Some lubricant brands advise you to completely degrease the chain, KMC does not recommend this.

    In other news, KMC sell chains.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    I was regularly de greasing 105 & Ultegra chains with Shimano Degreaser on the park tool cleaner but after going through 4 chains in 12 months I'm changing the way I clean them.

    I may have been advised by a poster here to do so!!!


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