Dairy chit chat II

briangriffin · 16-03-2018 11:04PM

Sold 7 culls dry about 8 weeks good fleshy type varied weights
On average they all made over 200 with their weights.
2 640 kg made 960
1 600 made 860
2 550 made 750

Keepgrowing · 16-03-2018 11:08PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

He has said that they arent caked in shyte... And has said yours are the only cows hes seen that are clean so i dont know what youre getting at kg

He stated lately that "his buddy" claims there's welfare issues developing on Irish farms. You're a good man to trawl back through posts, check out his comments regarding our dairy industry.

He's well informed by "his buddy" and of course click bait central Agriland.

charolais0153 · 16-03-2018 11:24PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

He stated lately that "his buddy" claims there's welfare issues developing on Irish farms. You're a good man to trawl back through posts, check out his comments regarding our dairy industry.

He's well informed by "his buddy" and of course click bait central Agriland.

I typed keepgrowing into search engine because i remembered he said it. I know what he said about irish dairy,doesnt mean i agree or disagree with him

Timmaay · 16-03-2018 11:27PM

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=601353033549598&id=100010247199086&set=gm.944848349022951&source=48

alps · 17-03-2018 12:33AM

A week ago

charolais0153 · 17-03-2018 12:34AM

alps wrote: »

A week ago

12 and 14 year old didnt owe you anything

Base price · 17-03-2018 12:48AM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

He stated lately that "his buddy" claims there's welfare issues developing on Irish farms. You're a good man to trawl back through posts, check out his comments regarding our dairy industry.

He's well informed by "his buddy" and of course click bait central Agriland.

I'm not au fait with the "goings on" within this dairy chit chat thread, so I don't want to get involved in a internal argument.
OH and I have been buying dairy bull calves for many years. IMO as the National dairy herd increases there is an welfare issue developing within some herds, particularly in cross bred (JE/Kiwi) herds. It's up to the DAFM.

freedominacup · 17-03-2018 12:55AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Fcuk sake couple of cows bulling today and in comes a cow with front teat cut to bits

They better keep bulling like this after the 10th of April. The worse the weather the more activity lately with all the mess that goes with it.

alps · 17-03-2018 01:03AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

12 and 14 year old didnt owe you anything

Few more still on the go here...first time not to go in calf...hate seeing them go..

Gawddawggonnit · 17-03-2018 06:11AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

He has said that they arent caked in shyte... And has said yours are the only cows hes seen that are clean so i dont know what youre getting at kg

Thank you.

Gawddawggonnit · 17-03-2018 06:12AM

Water John wrote: »

Nice to see clean, cosy cows. Top marks. A pleasure for beast and man/woman.

+1.

Gawddawggonnit · 17-03-2018 06:15AM

freedominacup wrote: »

They better keep bulling like this after the 10th of April. The worse the weather the more activity lately with all the mess that goes with it.

Well used to it here. Always lose a few to broken bones in high summer. Usually good ones too.

Gawddawggonnit · 17-03-2018 06:30AM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

He stated.....

In fairness KG I’ve always considered your posts to be substantive and very informative. In fact I’ve learned quite a lot over the years from you.
Why you have sunk to such puerile nonsense quite amazes me. What I posted has been qualified by other well respected contributors.
If you see yourself as the hippy-hoppy-happy-clappy cheerleader for all that is good and fine, then more luck to you, but I’d rather you didn’t attack me personally.

Thanking you in advance,
Dawg.

jaymla627 · 17-03-2018 09:48AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Fcuk sake couple of cows bulling today and in comes a cow with front teat cut to bits

Easyfix would solve all your problems on that front, just be sitting down when you get the price of doing it

Mooooo · 17-03-2018 10:15AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Easyfix would solve all your problems on that front, just be sitting down when you get the price of doing it

This one wasn't bulling, I noticed one jumping near the cubicles and I turned them out, I'd say she came down off a cow and stood on this one who was lying down

GrasstoMilk · 17-03-2018 10:23AM

What products are ye going with to get sulphur out?
Going with 2 bags of 18 6 12 +S as soon as weather settles and will follow with sulcan after cows

freedominacup · 17-03-2018 11:10AM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

What products are ye going with to get sulphur out?
Going with 2 bags of 18 6 12 +S as soon as weather settles and will follow with sulcan after cows

1.5 bags of ASN in early April across the farm. Grass needs S at that point in the season most I'm told.

GrasstoMilk · 17-03-2018 11:23AM

freedominacup wrote: »

1.5 bags of ASN in early April across the farm. Grass needs S at that point in the season most I'm told.

Was thinking if ASN too. Have never used it before. Is there any truth in lads saying it affects fertility?

Mooooo · 17-03-2018 11:23AM

Have 3 tonne of urea +S in the yard along with 12 tonne of sulpha can. Rest is straight urea and have a pallet of asn as well. Will see how the urea + S spreads as rep said some weren't happy spreading it last year

Mooooo · 17-03-2018 11:25AM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Was thinking if ASN too. Have never used it before. Is there any truth in lads saying it affects fertility?

Our advisor isn't keen on it on grazing ground anyway. Fine for silage

alps · 17-03-2018 11:58AM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Was thinking if ASN too. Have never used it before. Is there any truth in lads saying it affects fertility?

Our mineral supplier maintains its rank poison....

Small amounts at a time most important..

freedominacup · 17-03-2018 12:01PM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Was thinking if ASN too. Have never used it before. Is there any truth in lads saying it affects fertility?

Our CI dropped by 20 days last year and on course for something similar this year. A bit of consolidation and culling involved but I haven’t seen any problems. No one was using it until a couple of years ago but all of a sudden there's experts about it with strong opinions everywhere you look.

charolais0153 · 17-03-2018 12:22PM

Sulphur advice from teagasc
• Sulphur (S) is an important nutrient for grassland, and is
closely associated with N uptake and efficiency.
• There is currently no soil test or soil Index system for S.
• Herbage analysis is the best predictor of S deficiency.
• Lighter soils with low organic matter contents are generally more prone to S deficiency.
S fertilizer advice
• The response to S fertilizer increases as the rate of N fertilizer increases.
• On S deficient soils, apply 20kg/ha per year for
grazed swards.
• For silage swards on S deficient soils, apply 20kg/ha of S per cut.
• Avoid S application to soils not deficient in S, as excess S may affect the trace element nutrition of plants and animals.
• S can be applied by using any of a number of straight or compound fertilizers that contain S.
Freedominacup may be in a deficient area while others dont know whether they need it or not...

yosemitesam1 · 17-03-2018 01:00PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Our CI dropped by 20 days last year and on course for something similar this year. A bit of consolidation and culling involved but I haven’t seen any problems. No one was using it until a couple of years ago but all of a sudden there's experts about it with strong opinions everywhere you look.

You'd want to be fairly unlucky to see any problems from it. Assuming 50-60% of the s made it into the leaf for the next grazing (which is unlikely) it would add .1% to something around .3% so only bring you up to the recommended max of .4%.

Problems due to n would be much more likely IMO.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-03-2018 01:02PM

Big burst of calving last night, 8 new calves and I must make a new pen. All my 'spare' gates are up around the sheds waiting for a guy to bring back my yard gates to hang on the new shed.

Just when you think you're finished with using pallets:rolleyes:

Timmaay · 17-03-2018 01:52PM

What age do yous do hr calves for ibr?

RightTurnClyde · 17-03-2018 02:18PM

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Was thinking if ASN too. Have never used it before. Is there any truth in lads saying it affects fertility?

Absolutely, and under difficult conditions.throw grass tetany into the mix aswell.
Either 18-6-12+S or SCAN here.

Say my name · 17-03-2018 08:30PM

Timmaay wrote: »

What age do yous do hr calves for ibr?

I think they say from 10 days.
But I've done them at 7.

I use the live vaccine and as a rule of thumb like to do everything on the same day if possible.

Say my name · 17-03-2018 08:45PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Sulphur advice from teagasc
• Sulphur (S) is an important nutrient for grassland, and is
closely associated with N uptake and efficiency.
• There is currently no soil test or soil Index system for S.
• Herbage analysis is the best predictor of S deficiency.
• Lighter soils with low organic matter contents are generally more prone to S deficiency.
S fertilizer advice
• The response to S fertilizer increases as the rate of N fertilizer increases.
• On S deficient soils, apply 20kg/ha per year for
grazed swards.
• For silage swards on S deficient soils, apply 20kg/ha of S per cut.
• Avoid S application to soils not deficient in S, as excess S may affect the trace element nutrition of plants and animals.
• S can be applied by using any of a number of straight or compound fertilizers that contain S.
Freedominacup may be in a deficient area while others dont know whether they need it or not...

Maybe not from teagasc.

But..

Buford T. Justice XIX · 18-03-2018 11:45AM

Mod note: I'll take down a few posts and replies at the request of the poster. It's safe to say we are all feeling the same at the minute.

Buford T. Justice.

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