Cheltenham 2018 - Day 4

Mad_Dave · 15-03-2018 11:29pm

Time to burn my profits for the week - bets so far:
14.10 Smaoineamh Alainn e/w
14.50 Poetic Rhythm e/w, Enniscoffey Oscar win
15.30 Road to Respect e/w
16.10 Wonderful Charm win
16.50 Melrose Boy e/w, Flawless Escape win
Some small stakes long odds double/trebles combos with Apples Shakira, Santini, Foxrock, North Hill Harvey, Killultagh Vic and Native River.
Got a day off work as well to sit and enjoy the racing.

mdwexford · 16-03-2018 12:05am

Our Duke is a hilarious price.

It's the worst Gold Cup I can remember but I still give him no chance.

Johner · 16-03-2018 12:08am

mdwexford wrote: »

Our Duke is a hilarious price.

It's the worst Gold Cup I can remember but I still give him no chance.

His jumping surely won’t hold up. You can’t make mistakes like he does and win a Gold Cup, I’d be surprised if he gets round.

Will probably win now. :pac:

ShaneU · 16-03-2018 12:21am

2 winners yesterday thanks to Elliott

Apple's Shakira
Santini
Road to Respect
North Hill Harvey

2ndcoming · 16-03-2018 12:34am

Might Bite and Road To Respect mental prices, ye can have a serious cut on both e/w.

Apples Shakira hammered but hard to see it beat.

Big handicaps stick a pin in the board. Ideally one with Gordon Elliott or Davey Russell's face on it. Honestly though think the English will save some face tomorrow.

Happy punting lads and ladettes.

4068ac1elhodqr · 16-03-2018 12:42am

The random chap that won the 'Pick7' today, has just uploaded his selections for Friday, couple of 20/1 in among them.

e.g. Minella & Gino double is @400.

Assuming it wasn't just lucky picking on Thursday (it may well have been).

Would be tempted to run a (min stake) tin of 'Super Heinz' for seven (ew), just the laugh.
That would probably total about 2m or so.

2ndcoming · 16-03-2018 12:45am

Aliana Worried Symbolism wrote: »

The random chap that won the 'Pick7' today, has just uploaded his selections for Friday, couple of 20/1 in among them.

e.g. Minella & Gino double is @400.

Assuming it wasn't just lucky picking on Thursday (it may well have been).

Would be tempted to run a (min stake) tin of 'Super Heinz' for seven (ew), just the laugh.
That would probably total about 2m or so.

Care to share?

jimjamcos · 16-03-2018 12:47am

Have we decided how much Santini wins by?

4068ac1elhodqr · 16-03-2018 12:50am

2ndcoming wrote: »

Care to share?

Just building a super heinz now, before linking to check the odds. T-10.

Slight correction it wasn't pick7 it was lucky7 with that other outfit.
fella is called: James Hays, anyone know him? lol

Other note, using an Alt for 13:30 using W/O as a risk eliminator/place enhancer (he went with AS, too short).

Edit: odds are <439,000/1 using a replacement for the 13:30 (439k rtn, when compiled from the x240 beans via the bare min allowed).

4068ac1elhodqr · 16-03-2018 1:00am

Slight complication, ok so this was the only fella that managed 6/7 wins on Hills
https://lucky7.williamhill.com/your-selections?id=115038_ZK

But over on the SKy, two folks managed the same 6/7,
another three managed an even more impressive 6wins + the 7th placing.
...but their link unavailable as still being verified.

Best plan would be wait for their additional data to be presented, then compile the Heinz based on any correlation between the six of them.
Reckon about 100,000 folks would enter these free competitions, well because they're free.

hefferboi · 16-03-2018 1:11am

All to be placed

Apples Shakira 3 places
Santini 2 places
Definitely red 3 places
Burning ambition 3 places
Flawless escape 4 places
Don’t touch it 4 places

€1 pays €12,512.50

Say a prayer

danganabu · 16-03-2018 1:31am

My god Accumulator you talk some amount of endless shi*e ðŸ˜‚

4068ac1elhodqr · 16-03-2018 1:40am

danganabu wrote: »

My god Accumulator you talk some amount of endless shi*e ��

Ah it's dagadongadingalong, take it you haven't won at the horses yet, just the aul regular trolling then?

There is no need to address me as your god btw.

NinetyTwoTeam · 16-03-2018 7:40am

After reading Hendersons blog post today I won't be backing Might Bite, sounds very concerned about the ground. As someone said in the other thread front runners aren't doing too well tho we did finally get a horse to make all and win in the last yesterday.

He sounds most confident in Chef Des Obeaux in the Albert Bartlett. Annoyingly he has the top 2 in the market with him and Santini. I'll be skipping some of the other races tho so don't mind backing them both at around 5/1.

Native River front runs but he is the one horse you know will love the ground and get the trip too. it's such an open race and I love Might Bite but just think it's gonna be Un De Sceaux all over again if he tries to make all.

i know NR will give me a run for me money and with Definitely Red and Edwulf being proven on heavy they're definitely worth e/w bets at big prices. I don't fancy Our Duke at all, honestly just think he's popular bc Jessie won it last year and he won the Irish Grand National. he's priced shorter than he should be imo.

hefferboi · 16-03-2018 8:02am

Was there much rain overnight??

16-03-2018 8:26am

Minella Rocco a NR

oppiuy · 16-03-2018 8:35am

Only had 1 bet this meeting due to work. €10 patent on Presenting Percy, Apples shekira and might bite. Didn't take prices and Apple is to 13/8 from 5/2 which will reduce the pot if it doesn't drift. Waiting to read all opinions on might bite as thinking of cashing out if Apple wins and the offer is fairly decent. Then again i have a feeling might bite may well drift due to the Irish factor and may get a good 5 or 6-1.

Good luck with all your bets

Panrich · 16-03-2018 8:40am

A wide open Gold Cup today where we might easily have another Lord Windermere type result. Native River looks like he’ll cope best with conditions of the favorites but is 0-4 at the course so I’m going for Definitely Red EW.

Also throwing a few darts for small money at:

13:30 Stormy Ireland
14:10 Meri Devie
14:50 Chris’s Dream
16:10 Wonderful Charm
16:50 Discorama
17:30 Top Gamble

Good luck to all

deiseman17 · 16-03-2018 8:52am

I give Smaoineamh Ã¡lainn a very good ew shout at 14/1 he's been backed in from at least 20s. For the gold Cup I'll have a small bet on Edwulf at 16/1,i think this will be an open race with the ground and trip suiting.

dave81 · 16-03-2018 9:03am

I've bounced a load of doubles off variations of stormy Ireland, apples shakira clan and santini. I'm sweet on stormy and will back in singles. Think clan wins Albert, very sweet on him. I'll back in a single too. Good luck.

clevtrev · 16-03-2018 9:08am

deiseman17 wrote: »

I give Smaoineamh álainn a very good ew shout at 14/1 he's been backed in from at least 20s. For the gold Cup I'll have a small bet on Edwulf at 16/1,i think this will be an open race with the ground and trip suiting.

Smaoineamh is 19 on B365 with 4 places, 17 with 5 places and 15 with 6 places.

deiseman17 · 16-03-2018 9:10am

clevtrev wrote:

Smaoineamh is 19 on B365 with 4 places, 17 with 5 places and 15 with 6 places.

Must set up a B365 account so lol. Great chance I think regardless. We'll see.

BumperD · 16-03-2018 9:51am

hefferboi wrote: »

Was there much rain overnight??

Light enough (walked home in it with a few ales in me) :pac:

Gavin "shels" · 16-03-2018 9:55am

TheTorment wrote: »

Minella Rocco a NR

Gutted. Have had a small ew on Road to Respect.

piplip87 · 16-03-2018 10:03am

Threw another few quid on Sadlier this morning. I really liked the debut run. It was against nothing of note but the French flat form plays in well.

Deal D'estruval is another I backed this morning.

Duca de Thiux, Foxrock, and defiantly red.

Still have being backing Kiltuagh Vic every week since for the last 6 weeks or so for the gold cup. Getting worried slightly about him now

mitch23 · 16-03-2018 11:06am

Anyone else fancy total recall to me it seems to have a decent e.w shout in an open field.

showpony1 · 16-03-2018 11:06am

was thinking of lumping on Apples Shakira/Santini Double @ 8/1,
seeing a lot of support here for Stormy Ireland though today.
Apples is dodgy?

hefferboi · 16-03-2018 11:13am

showpony1 wrote: »

was thinking of lumping on Apples Shakira/Santini Double @ 8/1,
seeing a lot of support here for Stormy Ireland though today.
Apples is dodgy?

Waiting on the two in a treble and lucky 15 for big money but I have a bad feeling. The form of the 2 are excellent, especially Apples form at the ground but I know one will let me down

Messi19 · 16-03-2018 11:14am

showpony1 wrote: »

Apples is dodgy?

Only if you're Snow White

mulbot · 16-03-2018 11:21am

Messi19 wrote: »

Only if you're Snow White

or a Multinational in Cork!

markc91 · 16-03-2018 11:35am

Purely on trends this is what ive went with

1:30 Redicean Win
2:10 Meri Devie E/w
2:50 Santini Win
3:30 Road To Respect E/w
4:10 Burning Ambition Win
4:50 Deal Destruval E/W
5:30 Le Prezien E/w

WickIow Brave · 16-03-2018 11:38am

Good day yesterday with Penhill and The Storyteller.

I'm going through the card today.

1:30 Apple's Shakira

2:10 Meri Devie e/w
Sandsend e/w

2:50 Santini
Ballyward e/w

3:30 Might Bite
Road To Respect e/w

4:10 Burning Ambition

4:50 Early Doors e/w
Sire du Berlais e/w

5:30 Le Prezien e/w

Francie Barrett · 16-03-2018 11:48am

It's rare Nicholls will come away from Cheltenham without a winner. Thinking Le Prezien might just about be one of his best shots.

BorneTobyWilde · 16-03-2018 11:51am

Stormy Ireland 7-1
1.30

Spiritofthegames 2.10
12-1

Tower Bridge 2.50
25-1

American 3.30
33-1
Edwulf 3.30
16-1

Young Hurricane 4.10
40-1
Minella For Value 4.10
33-1

Flawless Escape 4.50
7-1
Brave Eagle 4.50
40-1

Le Prezien 5.30
12-1
Gino Trail 5.30
25-1

My picks today

Johner · 16-03-2018 12:08pm

Apples Shakira looks far too short. Farclas has a similar profile to that of Tiger Roll when he won this race so he'd be my selection at 8s.

16-03-2018 12:12pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

Gutted. Have had a small ew on Road to Respect.

Yeah me too. Wasn't nrnb either for me either.

I'll stick with the same team and go with Edwulf

Blud · 16-03-2018 12:19pm

Again, continuing with my previous strategy, Nicholls horses plus a SH plus some each way or in the without market.

Nicholls bets, all each way.
2.10 Divin Bere
3.30 Saphir du Rheu
4.10 Wonderful Charm
4.50 Brelan Das
5.30 Bouvreuil

Super heinz:
1.30 Apples
2.10 Sandsend
2.50 Santini
3.30 Might Bite
4.10 Wonderful Charm
4.50 Flawless Escape
5.30 Vaniteux

Other - undecided on how to back these, but these are my picks anyway
1.30 Redicean and Sussex Ranger
2.10 flying tiger and spiritofthegames
2.50 Mr Whipped
3.30 definitely red
4.10 young hurricane, virak and shotavodka
4.50 Tommy Rapper and Brave Eagle
5.30 Le Prezien and Garde le Victoire

Will hopefully back all of the 'other ' picks ew today, have had some good luck in this section this week on longer odds, as per other threads.

Good luck all.

mailburner · 16-03-2018 12:28pm

Our Duke enhanced to 7s on 365 .. Never a good sign

Torn between definitely red and mb so backing both

begbysback · 16-03-2018 12:31pm

Went with the townend treble

jamesbere · 16-03-2018 12:34pm

Here are my selections for today

13:30 Redicean e/w

14:10 Whiskey Sour e/w
Chesterfield e/w

14:50 Santini
Tower Bridge e/w

Gold Cup: Road to Respect e/w

16:10 Wonderful Charm e/w

16:50 Sire du Berlais e/w
Brave Eagle e/w

17:30 Dolos e/w

Lucky 15 e/w
Redicean
Santini
Road to Respect
Wonderful Charm

Said i'd do a good few today, its my day off so want to sit back and enjoy.
Good luck to all

Snipp · 16-03-2018 12:42pm

Have stormy ireland and definitely red singles and a double to wrap up a terrible week of gambling for me! gl

Slattsy · 16-03-2018 12:42pm

I can barely type. Still full of Scotch. Not writing up I'll just give my fancies.

Farclas. Have to take the favourite on!

Brelade each way. Didn't really get home last year but I'll give him another chance.

Santini. Big ap fancy of mine.

Might Bite. Have him ap but not one bit happy with it. Ground concerns.
Outlander also backed ap at 50s ew so hoping he can sneak a place. But I think Kilultagh Vic wins.

The Foxhunters can **** off!

Early Doors. On at 20s. Here's hoping.

Not sure about the last one yet. I'll wait until I get a few scoops in me and read the Racing Post!

Good luck.

deeks · 16-03-2018 12:45pm

Really fancied Redicean in the first but he's gone for a bit of a walk in the market this morning which is really tempering my enthusiasm. Wouldn't have thought the ground would be more of an issue for him than anyone else so might just be bad vibes from the stable?

NinetyTwoTeam · 16-03-2018 12:45pm

Nicholls has basically said the ground is hurting the chances of every runner on his blog, bar Dolos.

Sounded very positive about Pacha, Saphir and Virak tho and that he would have had a lot of confidence in Wonderful Charm but the rain really hurts his chance.

overall he seems to feel his ones in the 4.10 and 5.30 are his best chances.

BumperD · 16-03-2018 12:49pm

Stuck these in the Jackpot
1 farclas and apples
2 Meri Devi/whiskey/Meri Devi
3 santini/chriss dream
4 might bite/definitely red
5 burning ambition/ unioniste
6 bbb/ flawless escape

Gl

Limestone1 · 16-03-2018 1:06pm

2.10 Moon Racer ew 22/1 In good shape and expected to run well
2.50 Chriss Dream should love the ground

TheMilkyPirate · 16-03-2018 1:11pm

What the **** was that ****e with chapman and brian, That was very hard to watch

I says · 16-03-2018 1:12pm

1.30 stormy Ireland
2.10 Ben Dundee
2.50 santini / criss dream e/w
3.30 our duke
410 foxrock
4.50 discorama e/w
530 Dresden e/w

Itziger · 16-03-2018 1:18pm

Slattsy wrote: »

I can barely type. Still full of Scotch. Not writing up I'll just give my fancies.

Farclas. Have to take the favourite on!

Brelade each way. Didn't really get home last year but I'll give him another chance.

Santini. Big ap fancy of mine.

Might Bite. Have him ap but not one bit happy with it. Ground concerns.
Outlander also backed ap at 50s ew so hoping he can sneak a place. But I think Kilultagh Vic wins.

The Foxhunters can **** off!

Early Doors. On at 20s. Here's hoping.

Not sure about the last one yet. I'll wait until I get a few scoops in me and read the Racing Post!

Good luck.

I see a pattern emerging. Good luck.

Widdensushi · 16-03-2018 1:19pm

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

What the **** was that ****e with chapman and brian, That was very hard to watch

Didn't see but chapman is very hard to listen to

Cheltenham 2018 - Day 4

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