Sex offenders register after being sent a video

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 15-03-2018 11:02PM #1

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/suspended-sentence-for-man-who-had-video-showing-childs-rape-832795.html

Does this not appear harsh a first glance? The guy was sent a pornographic video of a young child. He hadn’t searched or asked for it, nor did he send it on. It was discovered in his possession by chance, and although he could’ve deleted it, for whatever reason he chose not to. Now he’s on the sex offenders register.

linpoo · 15-03-2018 11:06PM

I feel sick to my stomach after reading that

amcalester · 15-03-2018 11:06PM

If someone sent me a video of a child under 5 being raped I’d go straight to the police to report it.

He claims he forgot it was on his phone, how the fûck do you forget something like that?

15-03-2018 11:08PM

He hung onto a video of a child being raped? So he was in possession of material that is against the law to be in possession of. Most people wouldn't walk around with a clip of a young child being raped on their phone. Most people would report the person who sent it to the police. If you're a consumer of stuff like that, you're responsible for making a market for it.

He only got a suspended sentence, he's not even going to jail for it.

I don't think it's harsh enough.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 15-03-2018 11:09PM

A woman sent him the clip apparently, that makes it even more disturbing.

The_Valeyard · 15-03-2018 11:10PM

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/suspended-sentence-for-man-who-had-video-showing-childs-rape-832795.html

Does this not appear harsh a first glance? The guy was sent a pornographic video of a young child. He hadn’t searched or asked for it, nor did he send it on. It was discovered in his possession by chance, and although he could’ve deleted it, for whatever reason he chose not to. Now he’s on the sex offenders register.

Nah, f*ck him.

He didnt report the vid to anyone AND kept the video on his phone. If he was so disgusted by it, It would be instantly deleted and reported to whatsapp about abusive video been sent and that he hadnt requested it.

kylith · 15-03-2018 11:11PM

Hilda Johnson wrote: »

What about the woman? Who sends out kiddie porn to warn about the danger in the world??

IKR? ‘Oh, I met this guy a week ago, I must send him this video I just happen to have of a small child being raped’.

15-03-2018 11:13PM

As others have said in other threads, calling it child porn is a misnomer. It's a video of child abuse or rape, it's not porn.

Whoever the woman was, she needs some attention too. You can warn people of dangers without doing that.

retro:electro · 15-03-2018 11:13PM

Erm no and quite frankly I don’t believe his story. Any normal rational person would be horrified and show the Guards. Not casually keep it on their phone and carry on as normal like you weren’t just sent child abuse by someone you barely know.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 15-03-2018 11:13PM

Hilda Johnson wrote: »

What about the woman? Who sends out kiddie porn to warn about the danger in the world??

women are always innocent, even when guilty

neonsofa · 15-03-2018 11:18PM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

women are always innocent, even when guilty

She has pleaded guilty and is due to be sentenced, no?

HONKEY TONK · 15-03-2018 11:18PM

Gardaí. He imposed a one-year suspended sentence,

saying Ajibola did not “search out” the clip, download it or share it.

Was he caught with the video downloaded on his phone or a Whatapp link to a video?

FCIM · 15-03-2018 11:20PM

There are numerous ways he could have reported it. Could have gone straight to the police, could have reported it through Whatsapp, there's even an online service for reporting stuff like that which *cough* a friend *cough* used in the past after having coming across unsavoury stuff during a search for legitimate adult material. What you don't do is keep it, and if you're as disgusted by it as he claims to have been, why did he not do what anybody else would do and delete it and block the sender who he knew for all of a week. Most normal person would be instantly suspicious upon receipt of such material anyway because most normal people would upon hearing or seeing such content, tell their family and friends about it but certainly wouldn't forward it on.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 15-03-2018 11:22PM

neonsofa wrote: »

She has pleaded guilty and is due to be sentenced, no?

Where does it say that?

neonsofa · 15-03-2018 11:23PM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Where does it say that?

In the article.

FCIM · 15-03-2018 11:24PM

Candie wrote: »

As others have said in other threads, calling it child porn is a misnomer. It's a video of child abuse or rape, it's not porn.

Whoever the woman was, she needs some attention too. You can warn people of dangers without doing that.

I understand and agree in principle with your thinking but in that case, child porn doesn't exist because in each and every case it is abuse and rape. I certainly don't believe that porn is seedy if used appropriately and I would very much distance the stuff found on the popular tube sites from what is termed child pornography. I think the term pornography is debatable though as it is the interest it arouses in the user rather than the actual content which deems it pornographic or not.

Jim Bob Scratcher · 15-03-2018 11:25PM

neonsofa wrote: »

In the article.

Sorry you're right, too many jameson's here :pac:

neonsofa · 15-03-2018 11:27PM

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Sorry you're right, too many jameson's here :pac:

Happens to the best of us :pac:

splinter65 · 15-03-2018 11:28PM

amcalester wrote: »

If someone sent me a video of a child under 5 being raped I’d go straight to the police to report it.

He claims he forgot it was on his phone, how the fûck do you forget something like that?

****ing nonsense. I’d have rang 999 if someone sent me something like that.

15-03-2018 11:28PM

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/suspended-sentence-for-man-who-had-video-showing-childs-rape-832795.html

Does this not appear harsh a first glance? The guy was sent a pornographic video of a young child. He hadn’t searched or asked for it, nor did he send it on. It was discovered in his possession by chance, and although he could’ve deleted it, for whatever reason he chose not to. Now he’s on the sex offenders register.

Who the hell doesn't delete such a video if they didn't search for it etc, and why didn't he report it to his ISP, or mail provider and more importantly the guards. He would have to be a complete ****ing idiot not to, and I mean mentally retarded.

Given that deleted files can be recovered until the drive sectors are completely overwritten, I'd be formatting and rewriting the drive like hell just in case if I ever received something like this. Either that or it'd be killed with fire.

Sort of reminds me of a customer of a company I used to work for. He logged a call saying his computer was slow and affecting business, our software was ****, leaving us to go to the competition etc.
Arrived down and the HD was nearly full, given I'd only installed the machine three months before started checking and the drive it was 70% full of porn (adults only from what I could tell).

Said well there's your problem and by the way you also have X number of virus infections on the machine also so I going to have to scan every machine on the network. Acted all embarrassed etc then, outraged as the call was now chargeable by the hour (always late paying his bills) and said he was going to murder his son who he let use the machine. All during this I noticed one of the staff trying not to laugh, tured out his son was in Australia and had been for the last nine months.

LadyMacBeth_ · 15-03-2018 11:35PM

Fair enough this guy didn't ask for the video or share it but why did he keep it? Who forgets that they have a video of a child being raped on their phone?

He could have gone to the guards about it but maybe with his previous convictions he decided to avoid any trouble which I can understand but I can't understand keeping the video.

His sentence was suspended in fairness. I'm not sure if he should be on the sex offenders' register but I also think the circumstances of this situation are more than a bit odd.

I can't understand what motivated the woman to send it to him in the first place. As a warning seems like a bizarre reason.

I guess the guards could read the context in which the video was sent though by checking his whatsapp conversations. I wonder if there is a way that they can check how many times he watched the video to see if it really was just once?

FCIM · 15-03-2018 11:43PM

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

Fair enough this guy didn't ask for the video or share it but why did he keep it? Who forgets that they have a video of a child being raped on their phone?

He could have gone to the guards about it but maybe with his previous convictions he decided to avoid any trouble which I can understand but I can't understand keeping the video.

His sentence was suspended in fairness. I'm not sure if he should be on the sex offenders' register but I also think the circumstances of this situation are more than a bit odd.

I can't understand what motivated the woman to send it to him in the first place. As a warning seems like a bizarre reason.

I guess the guards could read the context in which the video was sent though by checking his whatsapp conversations. I wonder if there is a way that they can check how many times he watched the video to see if it really was just once?

Smacks of the tip of an iceberg to me. Yeah, it could happen that somebody sent you a child porn video out of the blue but I'd suggest it's highly unlikely. I'd say 99.9% of people know that that kind of stuff is highly illegal and even if their motives were genuine would be extremely hesitant to be seen as circulating that kind of stuff. Also, about the same percentage of people would know the probable reaction of the recipient is to at the very least block them and with an extreme probability that they would report it in some way. Certainly, if you came across stuff like that a lot of people would tell family and friends but the key word is tell with tell including how physically and mentally repulsed and scarred by seeing it they were. The fact she received it in the first place, then thought it was a good idea to send it to him with him then choosing neither to report it nor to delete it nor to block her makes it seem like these are at the lower edge of a ring in my opinion.

TheChizler · 15-03-2018 11:45PM

Candie wrote: »

He hung onto a video of a child being raped? So he was in possession of material that is against the law to be in possession of. Most people wouldn't walk around with a clip of a young child being raped on their phone. Most people would report the person who sent it to the police. If you're a consumer of stuff like that, you're responsible for making a market for it.

He only got a suspended sentence, he's not even going to jail for it.

I don't think it's harsh enough.

I dunno, a lot of people don't realise when you view something on your phone it can be cached or saved to the filesystem by default. Several people have given me their phones to free up storage and they have several hundred megabytes of photos and videos sent through whatsapp that they thought were gone. I'd hardly call him a consumer for that reason alone.

15-03-2018 11:47PM

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

Fair enough this guy didn't ask for the video or share it but why did he keep it? Who forgets that they have a video of a child being raped on their phone?

He could have gone to the guards about it but maybe with his previous convictions he decided to avoid any trouble which I can understand but I can't understand keeping the video.

His sentence was suspended in fairness. I'm not sure if he should be on the sex offenders' register but I also think the circumstances of this situation are more than a bit odd.

I can't understand what motivated the woman to send it to him in the first place. As a warning seems like a bizarre reason.

I guess the guards could read the context in which the video was sent though by checking his whatsapp conversations. I wonder if there is a way that they can check how many times he watched the video to see if it really was just once?

If stored locally, no unless auditing is enabled to my knowledge, otherwise you just have the last accessed date.
If hosted online and I don't think it was then it would be possible, but the police would have to get access, or assistance from the owners of the server.

Katgurl · 16-03-2018 12:04AM

No I am delighted they have taken it seriously.

These crimes against children are heinous but it's all the cover-ups and turning a blind eye for the last few decades which have allowed them happen.

Vronsky · 16-03-2018 12:19AM

splinter65 wrote: »

****ing nonsense. I’d have rang 999 if someone sent me something like that.

By all means report it to the guards (although you'll probably bring heat on yourself) but it's not an emergency so you shouldn't call 999.

splinter65 · 16-03-2018 12:22AM

Vronsky wrote: »

By all means report it to the guards (although you'll probably bring heat on yourself) but it's not an emergency so you shouldn't call 999.

I exaggerated there alright . But I would be ringing the Garda station more or less instantly.

FCIM · 16-03-2018 12:24AM

Katgurl wrote: »

No I am delighted they have taken it seriously.

These crimes against children are heinous but it's all the cover-ups and turning a blind eye for the last few decades which have allowed them happen.

It sounds bizarre but there was actually a paedophile pressure group which received governmental funding in the UK in the seventies and eighties. Thankfully, we've come a long way since then.

qwerty ui op · 16-03-2018 12:37AM

Vronsky wrote: »

By all means report it to the guards (although you'll probably bring heat on yourself) but it's not an emergency so you shouldn't call 999.

Would you report it to guards?

tretorn · 16-03-2018 12:43AM

It was a video of a five year old being raped and it lasted five minutes.

He is a father of four which makes it even worse. I hope all his computers were searched.

Wonder why was he questioned in the airport in the first place and how did he come to be in this country.

There arefar too many of these non nationals appearing before our courts on unsavoury sex charges. I hope someone is keeping a track of each one convicted and their nationality.( before they came to be New Irish)

splinter65 · 16-03-2018 12:46AM

qwerty ui op wrote: »

Would you report it to guards?

Possession of child pornography is against the law.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/22/enacted/en/html

So yes if it’s been distributed to me unsolicited I’m going to report it to the Garda.

Sex offenders register after being sent a video

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