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Now the Vegans are at it!

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    #62
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Grateful Dread wrote: »
    Threads started in After Hours on Vegans in the last year and a half:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106396569
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105961641
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105830923
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=105334644
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=101661015
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99311875
    No. of threads started by Vegans: 0.

    Why are picking on AH only though?
    Plenty of posts from vegans within your selection of threads and elsewhere.

    One of your links was a commentary on the - in your face goveganworld - anti-farming rubbish posted on billboards around the country.

    Another was from an alternative / plant based diet aficionado etc who posts mainly on such topics.

    A couple are typical AH banter and in the usual mode of the dissection of a range of sacred cows

    However I would suggest much of the commentary by non vegans is because of overt coverage in the first place. Take for example the recent shyte storm whipped up by some militant vegans over Philip Boucher-Hayes "what are you eating" show. It's not that he has only looked at one type of diet or lifestyle is it?

    Imo the grandstanding and preaching by a small number of vegans in these threads is quite eye opening. I'm not really surprised therefore with much of the negative reception tbh.


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    #63
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I prefer my critters alive and happy! A turning point for me, apart from the cost of meat, was raising a pet lamb and keeping hens and all manner of other critters.

    I now hate the thought f eating meat. Occasionally a little bacon and part of the chickens I buy for the cats and dog go to make stock, but red meat is out

    It is as others say, personal choice.

    Feeding your cats and dogs (and yourself) chicken is still contributing to the raising for slaughter of animals. Your occasional bacon is a by product of animal slaughter as well. Your post doesn't make much sense in that regard.


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    #64
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Mercy Fancy Superhuman wrote: »
    Feeding your cats and dogs (and yourself) chicken is still contributing to the raising for slaughter of animals. Your occasional bacon is a by product of animal slaughter as well. Your post doesn't make much sense in that regard.

    I was going to comment that at least the poster is not forcing her lifestyle diet choice on their pets. Over in the animal and pet forum the number of self declared vegans who post about doing so is quite astonishing.


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    #65
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    Ah yeah sure you are - "reason and truth" - that last piece was freekin hillarious. ... Monthly Python was funny too. :pac:

    6 hours later. Nobody has thanked you.
    Your post was unfunny.
    You have Les Dennis type humor.
    Youre hilarious, but just in bingo halls.

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    #66
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    gozunda wrote: »
    I was going to comment that at least the poster is not forcing her lifestyle diet choice on their pets. Over in the animal and pet forum the number of self declared vegans who post about doing so is quite astonishing.

    Thanks for this sense. I never at any time by the way said I was a vegan etc. My serious illness means I have so many dietary restrictions that I cannot do that For many of us also it is a gradual process. Most food now has to be minced or pureed.

    Cats are obligate carnivores. I would never restrict their diet for that reason. Dogs less so but still have needs.

    Bless and thank you too for your kindness and courtesy and understanding on this '

    And it can be very very hard for those who love and care for any animal to think of causing death to another living critter ; believe me on that


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    #67
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    6 hours later. Nobody has thanked you.
    Your post was unfunny.
    You have Les Dennis type humor.
    Youre hilarious, but just in bingo halls.


    Did you get any thanks? I do not need "thanks" - do you? Why is that?

    You'd really shouldn't take your own comments so seriously.

    Ta


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    #68
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    Did you get any thanks? I do not need "thanks" - do you? Why is that?

    You'd really shouldn't take your own comnents so seriously.

    Ta

    Nobody thinks youre funny except you.

    Youre unfunny. And only just found out now.

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    #69
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    gozunda wrote: »
    I was going to comment that at least the poster is not forcing her lifestyle diet choice on their pets. Over in the animal and pet forum the number of self declared vegans who post about doing so is quite astonishing.

    In fairness, the dietry requirements of cats and dogs are different to those of humans.

    Part of the philosophy behind veganism is consent: the animal has not consented to giving it's body/milk/eggs for consumption. It would then be non-consentual to force this philosophy on another living animal that could not consent to the dietry change.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #70
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Thanks for this sense. I never at any time by the way said I was a vegan etc. My serious illness means I have so many dietary restrictions that I cannot do that For many of us also it is a gradual process. Most food now has to be minced or pureed.

    Cats are obligate carnivores. I would never restrict their diet for that reason. Dogs less so but still have needs.

    Bless and thank you too for your kindness and courtesy and understanding on this '

    And it can be very very hard for those who love and care for any animal to think of causing death to another living critter ; believe me on that

    Ah thank you for that reply. Though I believe that death amongst animals is inevitable - whether it the cat that gets the mouse, the wolf that takes down caribou or in my case the chicken that ends up in the pot - after being properly dispatched and the meal appreciated for its full value and worth.


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    #71
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    Nobody thinks youre funny except you. Youre unfunny. And only just found out now.

    I don't mind if you don't find 'me funny or otherwise. I do not require any other validation for my self.

    *By the way it's your or you're but not "youre"

    Take care


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    #72
    Grateful Dread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Grateful Dread


    gozunda wrote: »
    Why are picking on AH only though?
    Plenty of posts from vegans within your selection of threads and elsewhere.

    One of your links was a commentary on the - in your face goveganworld - anti-farming rubbish posted on billboards around the country.

    Another was from an alternative / plant based diet aficionado etc who posts mainly on such topics.

    A couple are typical AH banter and in the usual mode of the dissection of a range of sacred cows

    However I would suggest much of the commentary by non vegans is because of overt coverage in the first place. Take for example the recent shyte storm whipped up by some militant vegans over Philip Boucher-Hayes "what are you eating" show. It's not that he has only looked at one type of diet or lifestyle is it?

    Imo the grandstanding and preaching by a small number of vegans in these threads is quite eye opening. I'm not really surprised therefore with much of the negative reception tbh.

    AH because it's where all the whingers post about vegans and other peopel hang out saying they're forcing their views on everyone.

    That Boucher-Hayes thing was a bit of a joke. Poorly exectued, little to no research, ignoring facts in the end because he wants to eat meat guilt free - which is fine. He clearly had an agenda. It was laughable and if I was a vegan I'd be pretty pissed off.

    There are some mental vegans floating around boards alright, I'll grant you that.

    I just find the whole things bizarre, like who cares if they don't want to eat meat?


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    #73
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    I don't mind if you don't find 'me funny or otherwise. I do not require any other validation for my self.

    *By the way it's your or you're but not "youre"

    Take care

    Now youve reduced yourself to using gramattical errors as some kind of distraction from your unfunniness.

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    #74
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Grateful Dread wrote: »
    AH because it's where all the whingers post about vegans and other peopel hang out saying they're forcing their views on everyone.

    That Boucher-Hayes thing was a bit of a joke. Poorly exectued, little to no research, ignoring facts in the end because he wants to eat meat guilt free - which is fine. He clearly had an agenda. It was laughable and if I was a vegan I'd be pretty pissed off.
    There are some mental vegans floating around boards alright, I'll grant you that.
    I just find the whole things bizarre, like who cares if they don't want to eat meat?

    Well if you take that goveganworld stuff they were to be fair.

    Personally I found nothing wrong with the Philip Boucher-Hayes program whatsover especially considering - its not the kind of thing I usually watch.

    I agree with you there t'is bizarre ...

    Thanks.


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    #75
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    Now youve reduced yourself to using gramattical errors as some kind of distraction from your unfunniness.

    :pac:


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    #76
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    gozunda wrote: »
    Ah thank you for that reply. Though I believe that death amongst animals is inevitable - whether it the cat that gets the mouse, the wolf that takes down caribou or in my case the chicken that ends up in the pot - after being properly dispatched and the meal appreciated for its full value and worth.

    Agree totally. Many of us mourn the loss of a beloved pet as we would a child. My cats are hunters; as well when we have rats around. They share though; found a large dead rat at the door last week.

    And yes, death is inevitable, but many of us try to limit it as much as we can without causing offence .

    It is something I have thought about and thought through over several decades. Gradually lessening and replacing what I can for myself.

    Thank you again!


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    #77
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    .... you've never tried my salad...

    Is that an invitation ;)
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    In fairness, the dietry requirements of cats and dogs are different to those of humans.

    Part of the philosophy behind veganism is consent: the animal has not consented to giving it's body/milk/eggs for consumption. It would then be non-consentual to force this philosophy on another living animal that could not consent to the dietry change.

    Agreed on that...


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    #78
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    :pac:

    This is your best effort so far.

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    #79
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    This is your best effort so far.
    There now - just thanked you for that lovely comment ;) Feel better?


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    #80
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    There now - just thanked you for that lovely comment ;) Feel better?

    Take it easy. Its just a little constructive criticism.

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    #81
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    Take it easy. Its just a little constructive criticism.

    Hehe 'Constructive criticism' :pac:
    Enjoy the thank you!


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    #82
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    In fairness, the dietry requirements of cats and dogs are different to those of humans.

    Part of the philosophy behind veganism is consent: the animal has not consented to giving it's body/milk/eggs for consumption. It would then be non-consentual to force this philosophy on another living animal that could not consent to the dietry change.

    Now we're getting to the root of it.

    I feel animal rights activists are trying to push that philosophy on the rest of vegans. And by their logic they are against companion pets and good animal welfare


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    #83
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    .... you've never tried my salad...
    In all honesty, though, it's milkshakes that bring all the boys to the yard;)


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    #84
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    Hehe 'Constructive criticism' :pac:
    Enjoy the thank you!

    Enjoy hosting an afternoon game show.

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    #85
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    Enjoy hosting an afternoon game show.

    This will have to do I think ;)


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    #86
    greencap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    gozunda wrote: »
    This will have to do I think ;)

    Troll not lest thee be trolled.

    Ok lessing it ...pass.

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    #87
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    greencap wrote: »
    Troll not lest thee be trolled.

    Lol - yes indeed.. Old Testament Vegarisms 4.3.1

    Thanks ;


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    #88
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mod note: greencap and gozunda, knock it off! Debate the issue or find somewhere else to post, please!

    Buford T. Justice


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    #89
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    In all honesty, though, it's soyamilkshakes that bring all the boys to the yard;)

    FYP

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #90
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    In all honesty, though, it's milkshakes that bring all the boys to the yard;)

    Around here that would be ...
    its milking time that brings all the gurls to the yard ...

    :D


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    #91
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just shocked a loved one on the phone by telling her that ordinary cheese is made with rennet that comes from a calf's stomach

    She demanded proof; if you are squeamish do not read this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennet

    when I was on the North Sea island I had a smallholding and made cheese so knew these things.

    She like me is very limited food wise so...

    I must check in the shops re the cost of vegan cheese also. I inevitably eat a lot of cheese.

    As she said though, when I was talking to her re this thread, that by products are maybe less damaging and that stopping eating meat is not going to stop eg beef farming. She like me has rescue critters.

    A fascinating thread with so many overtones.

    I sometimes buy the excellent ready meals; the cats and dog always get the meat part .


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