The Grand Tour

Manic Moran · 11-03-2018 10:23AM

In fairness, I just don't think it's worth the cost of production. It isn't as awesome as I want, and it's too formulaic, and on many occasions, downright boring.

If they sort themselves out on Season 3, maybe it'll get extended, it's not the end of the road yet, but it's also not worth 33mil a series.

ELM327 · 11-03-2018 10:37AM

I'm sure the format will live on, with the trio, perhaps not at 33mil a season and not on Amazon.
When the "no-compete" clause ends they will be back on UK TV imo

OldMrBrennan83 · 11-03-2018 10:48AM

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DaveyDave · 11-03-2018 12:32PM

Streaming services are crap in Europe compared to the US and from what I hear Amazon is even worse in Ireland over the UK. A lot of their phyiscal products aren't sold/don't work over here so I believe it's very difficult to legally watch Grand Tour in 4K for example. Could be wrong, I was talking to someone who got a Fire TV or something from the UK, wouldn't work etc.

Might be a different story in the US where you hear of people paying $120 a month for lousy cable but I don't think people in Ireland want to pay for Netflix, Amazon, Now TV etc on top of music services.

Patww79 wrote: »

I'd say Amazon underestimated how many people would just pirate it instead of signing up to Prime.

Yeah, Top Gear was one of the biggest shows on Pirate Bay so it's no surprise people aren't going to sign up to a subscription just to watch a show for 2-3 months. Anytime an episode came out it would be up there in download popularity with Game of Thrones. No point putting X money into making a show on a subscription platform that is only available to very limited countries.

Hell I even downloaded Top Gear and I had a Sky+ box, I just kept forgetting to set it to record or just ignored it due to having other shows to watch at the time.

bear1 · 11-03-2018 01:04PM

If this is true then I'll be genuinely sad. I'd miss the trio a lot no matter if the move to Amazon was a good one or not.

ELM327 · 11-03-2018 01:12PM

DaveyDave wrote: »

Streaming services are crap in Europe compared to the US and from what I hear Amazon is even worse in Ireland over the UK. A lot of their phyiscal products aren't sold/don't work over here so I believe it's very difficult to legally watch Grand Tour in 4K for example. Could be wrong, I was talking to someone who got a Fire TV or something from the UK, wouldn't work etc.

Might be a different story in the US where you hear of people paying $120 a month for lousy cable but I don't think people in Ireland want to pay for Netflix, Amazon, Now TV etc on top of music services.

Yeah, Top Gear was one of the biggest shows on Pirate Bay so it's no surprise people aren't going to sign up to a subscription just to watch a show for 2-3 months. Anytime an episode came out it would be up there in download popularity with Game of Thrones. No point putting X money into making a show on a subscription platform that is only available to very limited countries.

Hell I even downloaded Top Gear and I had a Sky+ box, I just kept forgetting to set it to record or just ignored it due to having other shows to watch at the time.

I have amazon prime app on my TV and can watch in 4k.
I signed up just for the grand tour, if it's cancelled so will my subscription be.
The only other thing I watched on Amazon Prime was the series of Mr Bean

bear1 · 11-03-2018 01:14PM

ELM327 wrote: »

I have amazon prime app on my TV and can watch in 4k.
I signed up just for the grand tour, if it's cancelled so will my subscription be.
The only other thing I watched on Amazon Prime was the series of Mr Bean

Same here, have both Netflix and prime but only got prime to watch tgt

bear1 · 11-03-2018 01:16PM

Just read that Amazon has earnt in excess of 100 million pounds in the 3 years they've had it.
It's one of their biggest earners so I'd be surprised if they gave up such an earner.

Quazzie · 11-03-2018 01:23PM

bear1 wrote: »

Just read that Amazon has earnt in excess of 100 million pounds in the 3 years they've had it.
It's one of their biggest earners so I'd be surprised if they gave up such an earner.

It's only been on 2 years and they spent 100M pounds on it, so how is that an earner?

bear1 · 11-03-2018 01:53PM

Quazzie wrote: »

It's only been on 2 years and they spent 100M pounds on it, so how is that an earner?

33 million a series.. So that's a profit.

Quazzie · 11-03-2018 03:26PM

bear1 wrote: »

33 million a series.. So that's a profit.

If they spend 100M and make 100M they are just breaking even. No profit.

cdeb · 11-03-2018 03:30PM

They've budgeted £100m for three series, and have made £100m on the two series to date.

So that's going to be a profit, no?

I think those are the figures being referenced anyway.

punisher5112 · 11-03-2018 03:32PM

That may be true but they will make money from advertising and selling you other products....

I honestly think they don't care as Amazon is worth so much more.

Owryan · 11-03-2018 05:54PM

https://twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/972858704356958208?s=19

Jeremy's response to someone commenting that the grand tour was being axed

ELM327 · 11-03-2018 05:55PM

Hahahaha brilliant.
Love Jezza!

bear1 · 11-03-2018 06:36PM

Quazzie wrote: »

If they spend 100M and make 100M they are just breaking even. No profit.

The 100 million would be with 3 seasons, they made 100 million with 2.. and as pointed out there are many more streams of revenue coming from the show.. So yeah they are making a profit.
Re the response to the tweet, fantastic response from jezza

DaveyDave · 25-02-2019 12:05AM

Has anyone started season 3? I'm catching up on season 2, I stopped watching just before Farmkhana and Jaaaggs. I'm on the episode with the Aston and Jaguar going around the banked circuit in Barcelona. Really good series, looking forward to the rest of the episodes. I hope season 3 is just as good.

V8 Interceptor · 25-02-2019 12:23AM

Is there a way of buying the seasons cos I've not seen any of them? I presume DVD's are obsolete these days?

dastardly00 · 25-02-2019 12:27AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Is there a way of buying the seasons cos I've not seen any of them? I presume DVD's are obsolete these days?

Have you tried signing up for a free 30-day trial of Amazon Prime? I signed up for the free trial last night, even though I got the free trial last year too.

Mickiemcfist · 25-02-2019 01:33AM

dastardly00 wrote: »

Have you tried signing up for a free 30-day trial of Amazon Prime? I signed up for the free trial last night, even though I got the free trial last year too.

Not worth it for season 3 anyway. Its crap.

pa990 · 25-02-2019 01:42AM

dastardly00 wrote: »

Have you tried signing up for a free 30-day trial of Amazon Prime? I signed up for the free trial last night, even though I got the free trial last year too.

I had the free trial earlier this month, and cancelled it after a week.
I thought primes selection of shows was poor.

There's other ways to watch TGT.

V8 Interceptor · 25-02-2019 04:15AM

pa990 wrote: »

There's other ways to watch TGT.

Could you hint or drop me a PM?

DaveyDave · 25-02-2019 08:34AM

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Not worth it for season 3 anyway. Its crap.

What didn't you like about season 3? I didn't like season 1 and didn't finish it but thought season 2 was a big improvement. I usually skip the celebrity guests but thought it's pretty good in season 2 along with the decent news and challenges.

Vicxas · 25-02-2019 08:54AM

Season 3 seems very forced to me, like they're straining for ideas. The episode they did where they did a segment on Jim Clark was the best one so far because you could see they were actually interested in it.

Mickiemcfist · 25-02-2019 10:22AM

DaveyDave wrote: »

What didn't you like about season 3? I didn't like season 1 and didn't finish it but thought season 2 was a big improvement. I usually skip the celebrity guests but thought it's pretty good in season 2 along with the decent news and challenges.

Yea to me they're kind of dialling it in, it's Top Gear by numbers - go on a colombia special, crash into eachother "accidentally", leave one behind, go over a wobbly bridge & end. It's just not as funny as it once was IMO. Dunno if maybe I'm just tired of it or is it actually worse now.

Quazzie · 25-02-2019 11:55AM

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Yea to me they're kind of dialling it in, it's Top Gear by numbers - go on a colombia special, crash into eachother "accidentally", leave one behind, go over a wobbly bridge & end. It's just not as funny as it once was IMO. Dunno if maybe I'm just tired of it or is it actually worse now.

I think the fact that they actually look like old men now doesn't help the formula either. Hard to pull of Laddish behaviour when you have kids who are of a more appropriate age for hosting the show.

edburg · 25-02-2019 01:19PM

Not sure if it's me or the type of show that's growing old, it's still entertainment but I think it more has it's moments.

I have just watched tuck tuck thing on top gear and can't help think some of the imagery is better and script.

Possibly a case of some parts (valuable crew) was left behind at top gear and left both shows a little bit lacking.

Mickiemcfist · 25-02-2019 01:33PM

edburg wrote: »

Not sure if it's me or the type of show that's growing old, it's still entertainment but I think it more has it's moments.

I have just watched tuck tuck thing on top gear and can't help think some of the imagery is better and script.

Possibly a case of some parts (valuable crew) was left behind at top gear and left both shows a little bit lacking.

I didn't think that episode was great, but I've always liked Chris Harris & surpised how much I like Matt Leblanc on it. From a car point of view Top gear is the better show, the grand tour has little to do with the cars themselves imo.

edburg · 25-02-2019 02:08PM

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

I didn't think that episode was great, but I've always liked Chris Harris & surpised how much I like Matt Leblanc on it. From a car point of view Top gear is the better show, the grand tour has little to do with the cars themselves imo.

Not sure either are any different both shows in last week did m5 reports with different alternatives and both had same outcome of sorts and then did a trip of sorts that were not really car related. Both shows had time wasting sections with conversation/celebrity sections.

I don't really see any difference myself other than personalities. Both same for me.

alan partridge aha · 25-02-2019 02:11PM

They can get rid of the "token" black guy on top gear. I think he said 3 sentences on the show last night.

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