Is it time to build some high capacity Prisons in Ireland?

HONKEY TONK · 05-03-2018 08:16PM #1

With Ireland's increasing population and minimal free capacity left in the current prisons. Is it time to build some high capacity prisons in Ireland?

Im sure if we built large state of the art prisons the cost per prisoner will come down.

Trigger Happy · 05-03-2018 08:18PM

If by 'state of the art' you mean really really secure and functional- then yes, completely agree. And we need a justice system that dishes out proper sentences.

If you mean having more pool tables and sky sports and lots of mod cons for the inmates - no!

Donald Trump · 05-03-2018 08:20PM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

If you mean having more pool tables and sky sports and lots of mod cons for the inmates - no!

Mod cons for the cons?

wakka12 · 05-03-2018 08:21PM

What is a 'state of the art' prison ??

dxhound2005 · 05-03-2018 08:23PM

They have one in Cork.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/video-pics-new-era-dawns-for-corks-new-42m-state-of-the-art-prison-facility-377551.html

pleas advice · 05-03-2018 08:23PM

if you build it they will come
it'll be just like the motorways, they'll be running at capacity as soon as they're built

vicwatson · 05-03-2018 08:24PM

Thornton hall. Some dude got €30,000,000.00 of our money for his field

Mint Sauce · 05-03-2018 08:26PM

wakka12 wrote: »

What is a 'state of the art' prison ??

One with a revolving door, literally, making it easier for the repeat, and TV Licence offenders, and where Judges are scared or too stupid to give proper terms, so they can enter and exit even quicker.

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-03-2018 08:27PM

the legal system works just fine if you work for the legal system so locking up people long term would be very bad for business

Hande hoche! · 05-03-2018 08:28PM

Some of the islands could do with an investment.

ancapailldorcha · 05-03-2018 08:28PM

Or we could just clear the nonsense out of the Irish legal system. For starters, nobody should be doing hard time for taking or selling drugs.

Guy:Incognito · 05-03-2018 08:29PM

wakka12 wrote: »

What is a 'state of the art' prison ??

Very high, very thick wall in a circle. With 1 door for adding more prisoners.

dxhound2005 · 05-03-2018 08:30PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Or we could just clear the nonsense out of the Irish legal system. For starters, nobody should be doing hard time for taking or selling drugs.

I'm very relieved to hear that. I got my monthly supplies in the chemist today.

lifeandtimes · 05-03-2018 08:31PM

I can imagine the name of the prison documentary about it

tiocfaidh ar law!

05-03-2018 08:31PM

Trigger Happy wrote:

If you mean having more pool tables and sky sports and lots of mod cons for the inmates - no!

I've never heard of Sky Sports in prison. Most prisons provide RTE 1 RTE 2 TG4 & TV 3.

In some prisons you might have 2 pool tables between 100 prisoners & only an hour & a half to use them. You could wait a week for a chance to play.

dxhound2005 · 05-03-2018 08:33PM

I know a quarry business that could supply the rocks for the chain gang.

Mint Sauce · 05-03-2018 08:34PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I've never heard of Sky Sports in prison. Most prisons provide RTE 1 RTE 2 TG4 & TV 3.

In some prisons you might have 2 pool tables between 100 prisoners & only an hour & a half to use them. You could wait a week for a chance to play.

I doubt the crims employ a system where you put your euro on the table to mark your turn either.

Capt'n Midnight · 05-03-2018 08:34PM

We could outsource. Send people out to a prison in Eastern Europe. Sure they have potatoes over there too. They'll be grand.

For habitual offenders we could save even more by forgetting to come and collect them afterwards.

Hitman3000 · 05-03-2018 08:38PM

Trigger Happy wrote:

If by 'state of the art' you mean really really secure and functional- then yes, completely agree. And we need a justice system that dishes out proper sentences.

Do you mean jailing white collar criminals? Prison will be full quite quickly so.

mojesius · 05-03-2018 08:48PM

For the 30+ conviction Anto brigade, we should make use of our barren uninhabited islands. Ship them off with a bag of seeds to grow their own food and let them learn to fend for themselves. No prison staff necessary.

Ronin247 · 05-03-2018 08:59PM

We should just get Trumps Mexican wall builders, build a big wall round Tallaght and kill two birds with one stone.

Are Am Eye · 05-03-2018 09:01PM

I would suggest we invest in a State of the Art vat of Hydrochloric Acid.
Big yoke. About two million gallons. Throw convicts into it (Or use a fun slide?)

Markcheese · 05-03-2018 09:09PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Thornton hall. Some dude got €30,000,000.00 of our money for his field

To be honest....in terms of the bust that was one of the states better deals... Amazingly enough.. (as in after they'd pissed away 30 million they still had a field... That they paid sécurity to guard)

05-03-2018 10:02PM

When it comes to the delivery of a prison service I think it's important to realise that one size most definitely does not fit all.There are those who must never see the light of day or any perks of living and others who would be suited to a more rehabilitative environment.

Donald Trump · 05-03-2018 10:12PM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Or we could just clear the nonsense out of the Irish legal system. For starters, nobody should be doing hard time for taking or selling drugs.

A1.

Let me know when you get into power.

I want to make sure to bags the best place outside the local primary school for me crack stall. Will do a lunchtime gateway special for the kids. Buy two mars bars and get some free crack

Cee-Jay-Cee · 05-03-2018 10:14PM

The current shower in government cant even get a children's hospital built, what hope is there getting them to build a prison. It ain't happening on Leo's watch that's for sure.

Donald Trump · 05-03-2018 10:15PM

mojesius wrote: »

For the 30+ conviction Anto brigade, we should make use of our barren uninhabited islands. Ship them off with a bag of seeds to grow their own food and let them learn to fend for themselves. No prison staff necessary.

You're a few hundred years behind the times.

Although we kinda implemented it again partially in 2008-2009 when we shipped off more of them again to Australia....but unfortunately a good few came back this time

Donald Trump · 05-03-2018 10:17PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

The current shower in government cant even get a children's hospital built, what hope is there getting them to build a prison. It ain't happening on Leo's watch that's for sure.

Or even a hybrid. A children's prison. Two for the price of one

Actually, wait, is there not already a children's hospital in Tallaght?
I always assumed that was part-hospital/part-prison due to the name/location

dxhound2005 · 05-03-2018 10:18PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

A1.

Let me know when you get into power.

I want to make sure to bags the best place outside the local primary school for me crack stall. Will do a lunchtime gateway special for the kids. Buy two mars bars and get some free crack

Donald, I think you misunderstand how this would work. Taxpayers money would fund heroin and cocaine to be administered by hundreds of doctors who are not very busy at the moment. Lawyers would be standing by to arrange compensation claims if any of the users happened to suffer some adverse outcome. Very simple really.

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-03-2018 10:24PM

Cargo ship outfitted in the far-east, with accommodation for a few thousand, cheaper than a fancy new building, park it anywhere you like.
They have one over in the Bronx, NYC is now safer than London for lower level type crimes.

Kimbot · 05-03-2018 10:24PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I've never heard of Sky Sports in prison. Most prisons provide RTE 1 RTE 2 TG4 & TV 3.

In some prisons you might have 2 pool tables between 100 prisoners & only an hour & a half to use them. You could wait a week for a chance to play.

Well they have a few sports channels and that's a fact

also 2 pool tables between 100 prisoners is underestimating it, there is probably 2 per landing in most cases and depending on the prison there is approx 20 - 30 per landing

Is it time to build some high capacity Prisons in Ireland?

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