VW emissions software update - disaster

benny79 · 29-01-2018 04:10PM

Well I for one will never buy VW again.. But like most don't they own a lot of other car manufacturers like seat?

rocky · 29-01-2018 04:17PM

benny79 wrote: »

Well I for one will never buy VW again.. But like most don't they own a lot of other car manufacturers like seat?

It's the VAG group, Skoda, Seat, VW, Audi, Porsche, Bugatti and a few I might have forgot.

VWs seem to also work out among the best for buying new cars on PCP, so the emissions scandal didn't affect them too much here.

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 29-01-2018 04:28PM

they planned on gassing a person first , the old legacy still in full swing ...
tha program was great and showed them up tp be the evil scum they are .

Oink · 29-01-2018 04:32PM

Let me get this straight.... A car firm founded by Hitler decided it was good PR to test gas emissions on people.
K, fair enough.

fionaanna · 29-01-2018 05:11PM

fionaanna wrote: »

I'd really appreciate some advice. My car, a 1.6 diesel golf went in for the emissions fix just under 8 weeks ago. Since then it just hasn't been the same. It sounded different especially in 1 and 2nd gear, the fan was staying on after I had turned the engine (it's never done that before) there was a slight burning smell. The amber coil light came on and said engine fault. I brought it to my mechanic he said it was something to do with gases not getting into the engine, presume this is the EGR value. It then broke down on Sunday, had a complete loss of power and had to get a tow truck out, he said he thought it was the dpf filter but didn't have his diagnostics machine to be sure. I have now had it towed to the garage that carried out the emissions fix and they are telling me it's the alternator and that i need a new battery. They are trying to charge me €1200. I mentioned that I have seen online that similar things have happened over people's cars and that it's related to the emissions fix. What are your opinions? Does it sound like it's related to the emissions fix? Apologies for the long post!

Ok so I decided not to pay the VW garage the 1200 because I didn't trust what they were saying. Paid to get my car down to my own mechanic and the alternator the tensioner and the battery are all fine! To say I'm livid with VW is an understatement. I would have paid them 1200 for nothing! And still have a fault with my car.

Toyotafanboi · 29-01-2018 08:12PM

So what was wrong with the car?

fionaanna · 29-01-2018 09:01PM

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

So what was wrong with the car?

My mechanic says the egr valve. There is a bearing gone in my air conditioning which is probably the noise they presumed was coming from my alternator.

benny79 · 30-01-2018 01:59PM

fionaanna wrote: »

My mechanic says the egr valve. There is a bearing gone in my air conditioning which is probably the noise they presumed was coming from my alternator.

Egr valve is a know problem after the VW update hence why they are replacing them for free If I was you Id be getting back onto them and running a muck! looking for compo else Id be going to a solicitor!

CJhaughey · 30-01-2018 02:20PM

benny79 wrote: »

Egr valve is a know problem after the VW update hence why they are replacing them for free If I was you Id be getting back onto them and running a muck! looking for compo else Id be going to a solicitor!

EGR should be covered under the 2yr warranty on all updated cars.
Go to the main dealer and ask them what the procedure is to get it replaced.
Injectors are covered as well.

Cordell · 30-01-2018 02:30PM

KCross wrote: »

[...]The section about gassing monkeys just shows how far German auto is willing to go to protect its diesel investment[...]

Well, if you know the VW origins you will not be too surprised about that

Old habits and all...

uncle-mofo · 12-02-2018 07:29PM

I've recently imported a 131 CC TDI. Is there any accurate way to see if the emissions fix has been carried out? This site (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/emissionsinfo) seems to lead me in circles.

1jcdub · 12-02-2018 07:31PM

uncle-mofo wrote: »

I've recently imported a 131 CC TDI. Is there any accurate way to see if the emissions fix has been carried out? This site (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/emissionsinfo) seems to lead me in circles.

Put your reg in here:
https://campaigncheck.ie

jelutong · 20-02-2018 07:28PM

Porsche has stopped selling diesel-engined models across Europe.

colm_mcm · 20-02-2018 07:45PM

Not all of a sudden to be fair. They can use hybrids instead of diesels to skew the collective emissions figures. They dropped all but one model last summer

LeChienMefiant · 20-02-2018 08:14PM

1jcdub wrote: »

Put your reg in here:
https://campaigncheck.ie

My car has been done according to that. Unless the Indy did it, because it hasn't been near a main dealer. In fact I had another letter this month. It's not done.

Tuco88 · 20-02-2018 11:24PM

Id love to know what Benz/BMW did. There is no way VW was alone in this.

Gwynston · 21-02-2018 10:21AM

Tuco88 wrote: »

Id love to know what Benz/BMW did. There is no way VW was alone in this.

And no doubt it isn't exclusive to German manufacturers either.

We all know that mpg testing has been a farce for decades, so even if other brands didn't go as far as VW on the emissions test defeat software, you can be pretty sure that "real world" NOx figures aren't really very close to what they all claim. :rolleyes:

kilk · 21-02-2018 03:41PM

Apologies if this q has already been answered but I haven't time to read all the thread.

Has anyone affected been successful in getting the garage to reverse the "fix" ?

Gwynston · 22-02-2018 11:17AM

kilk wrote: »

Has anyone affected been successful in getting the garage to reverse the "fix" ?

From what I recall in earlier pages, VW won't reverse the fix. But I think some owners have got it done by independent garages, but it's not that trivial and it costs money. So it's necessary to find someone who knows properly what to do.

cadaliac · 01-03-2018 06:02PM

Just watched "dirty money" on Netflix
Mother of god, testing on monkeys now?
I recommend this watch re vw emissions

gctest50 · 02-03-2018 02:54AM

Tested on humans too, they just can't get away from the old 卐

The Süddeutscher and Stuttgarter Zeitung both reported on Monday that a research group funded by the auto industry giants tested the effects of gas nitrogen dioxide — a component of car exhaust — on "[25] healthy young persons."

grogi · 02-03-2018 10:34AM

gctest50 wrote: »

Tested on humans too, they just can't get away from the old 卐

With humans they were volunteers. I bet monkeys did not opt in...

Manic Moran · 02-03-2018 07:06PM

jelutong wrote: »

Porsche has stopped selling diesel-engined models across Europe.

They've gone the other way, here. Now that the fix has been approved, they're dragging the diesels out of storage and putting them on the market.

Further, because of the reduced supply, the demand is such that you might find yourself paying more for a used TDi than the things cost when new.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109774_asking-prices-climb-for-used-vw-tdi-diesels-as-buybacks-proceed

CJhaughey · 02-03-2018 07:43PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

They've gone the other way, here. Now that the fix has been approved, they're dragging the diesels out of storage and putting them on the market.

Further, because of the reduced supply, the demand is such that you might find yourself paying more for a used TDi than the things cost when new.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109774_asking-prices-climb-for-used-vw-tdi-diesels-as-buybacks-proceed

Because ultimately a TDI engined car is a pretty economical mode of transport and if they are no longer sold then your options are limited.

PaddyCar · 05-03-2018 10:18AM

So the egr in my 12 Passat went the other day and the car is in intermittent limp mode. Never got the update done for the emissions fix. If I were to get it done now would they replace the egr for me as a goodwill gesture?

1jcdub · 05-03-2018 10:24AM

PaddyCar wrote: »

So the egr in my 12 Passat went the other day and the car is in intermittent limp mode. Never got the update done for the emissions fix. If I were to get it done now would they replace the egr for me as a goodwill gesture?

What I'd tend to do would be, get the egr fault reset before bringing it in for the emission fix. If it stays off long enough to get it to the dealer for the fix you should be ok.
Doubt they'll do a goodwill gesture with the car being a 2012

PaddyCar · 05-03-2018 10:39AM

1jcdub wrote:

What I'd tend to do would be, get the egr fault reset before bringing it in for the emission fix. If it stays off long enough to get it to the dealer for the fix you should be ok. Doubt they'll do a goodwill gesture with the car being a 2012

I can get the fault turned off before bringing it in. My indy will replace with a 2nd hand egr for â‚¬400. Just wondering if I'm better keeping away from the emissions fix altogether and just getting it replaced?

1jcdub · 05-03-2018 10:58AM

PaddyCar wrote: »

I can get the fault turned off before bringing it in. My indy will replace with a 2nd hand egr for â‚¬400. Just wondering if I'm better keeping away from the emissions fix altogether and just getting it replaced?

If you get the emission fix done you'll have 2 years warranty on all emission components including egr dpf etc. Something to weigh up..

Atlantic Dawn · 05-03-2018 10:02PM

Toyota to stop selling diesel passenger cars across Europe at the end of the year...

Toyota is to end production of diesel versions of its passenger cars sold this year. In one of the most significant moves since the diesel emissions scandal broke in September 2015, the Japanese brand says it is abandoning diesel sales in Europe from the end of this year to focus its attention on petrol-electric hybrid versions.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/toyota-to-end-production-of-diesel-cars-this-year-1.3415933

colm_mcm · 05-03-2018 10:06PM

1jcdub wrote: »

If you get the emission fix done you'll have 2 years warranty on all emission components including egr dpf etc. Something to weigh up..

As long as you’re not planning on keeping it beyond 2 years!

VW emissions software update - disaster

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