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krustydoyle · 03-03-2018 04:10PM

Nearly sure the owners came out and said they've no problem with their horses running against each other

jimjamcos · 03-03-2018 04:30PM

krustydoyle wrote:

Nearly sure the owners came out and said they've no problem with their horses running against each other

Yeah, they've said it repeatedly. They've a history of it too - JLT a couple of years back with Bristal and L'ami, Champion Hurdle last year with Footpad and Sceau, and likely Stayers Hurdle with Wholestone and L'Ami this year.

Fanny Wank · 03-03-2018 04:32PM

krustydoyle wrote: »

Nearly sure the owners came out and said they've no problem with their horses running against each other

Didn't they have a 1-2 in the Triumph a few years back? Can't remember if they'd anything in the supreme that year, if they did it might not have warranted splitting Top Notch & Peace and Co

kiers47 · 03-03-2018 04:35PM

Fanny **** wrote: »

Didn't they have a 1-2 in the Triumph a few years back? Can't remember if they'd anything in the supreme that year, if they did it might not have warranted splitting Top Notch & Peace and Co

Lami Serge went off 2nd favorite in the supreme for them.

Slattsy · 03-03-2018 05:35PM

danganabu wrote: »

Good to Soft ground is still the most likley ground, just checked and there are two bookies with a market and both are 8/11 on Good to Soft.

I hope I'm wrong because wet festivals are ****e, but I can't see how good can be in the description, personally, unless they are dry from Tuesday through to next Tuesday.

danganabu · 03-03-2018 05:48PM

Slattsy wrote: »

I hope I'm wrong because wet festivals are ****e, but I can't see how good can be in the description, personally, unless they are dry from Tuesday through to next Tuesday.

Get your first winner of the week so Slatts

It will be very touch and go and the ability of that course to dry out never ceases to amaze me. But it is most certainly not inevitable.

Mr321 · 03-03-2018 05:50PM

https://twitter.com/AtTheRaces/status/969980900934127622

Slattsy · 03-03-2018 05:52PM

danganabu wrote: »

Get your first winner of the week so Slatts

It will be very touch and go and the ability of that course to dry out never ceases to amaze me. But it is most certainly not inevitable.

Few bob on Samcro in the Supreme l NRNB with Bet365!

danganabu · 03-03-2018 05:57PM

Slattsy wrote: »

Few bob on Samcro in the Supreme l NRNB with Bet365!

lol great minds etc etc

14/1 NRNB is some value, if he was re-directed he would be close to even money.

Slattsy · 03-03-2018 06:01PM

danganabu wrote: »

lol great minds etc etc 14/1 NRNB is some value, if he was re-directed he would be close to even money.

Yeah worth a few quid I thought.

Account will be closed immediately afterwards if it wins mind you.

Urindanger · 03-03-2018 06:15PM

Jesus I'll have a lash on that too.

Copper_pipe · 03-03-2018 06:37PM

Same bet is 6/4 on Sky.

Samcro for the Supreme NRNB

dk6dk6 · 03-03-2018 06:43PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Great spot. Same owners with Sceau Royal. Cant see them clashing.

The owners already said they wouldn't interfere and they've no problem with them taking eachother on. Footpad runs in the Arkle, of that I'm 100% certain.

dk6dk6 · 03-03-2018 06:47PM

It's smart from bet365, people will open accounts to back samcro at 14/1 and once they return the money most will reinvest the funds with them. Samcro is not running in the Supreme people need to forget this idea.

danganabu · 03-03-2018 06:55PM

dk6dk6 wrote: »

It's smart from bet365, people will open accounts to back samcro at 14/1 and once they return the money most will reinvest the funds with them. Samcro is not running in the Supreme people need to forget this idea.

lol its an obvious mistake on their behalf, not everything is a big bookie conspiracy!

krustydoyle · 03-03-2018 07:03PM

Just opened an account to take that 14's..

WickIow Brave · 03-03-2018 07:15PM

Look at Racing Post's last tweet 'Heavy could feature in going description'.

Also told that Gordon Elliott said at a preview that Samcro will run in the Supreme if it's soft.

BumperD · 03-03-2018 07:16PM

krustydoyle wrote: »

Just opened an account to take that 14's..

If they have that 200 bonus take it

Slattsy · 03-03-2018 07:21PM

WickIow Brave wrote: »

Look at Racing Post's last tweet 'Heavy could feature in going description'.

Also told that Gordon Elliott said at a preview that Samcro will run in the Supreme if it's soft.

Slattsy knew!!!

Slattsy · 03-03-2018 07:26PM

What's the most you can get on Samcro at 14s lads....

danganabu · 03-03-2018 07:32PM

Slattsy wrote: »

What's the most you can get on Samcro at 14s lads....

I had €30 last week and after this debate here I talked myself into another €45

sdoc13 · 03-03-2018 07:37PM

Took some of that 14s, heavily invested for the Ballymore so worth it at nrnb. If he turns up here it will be because it's soft or heavy and surely goes of evs or less

hawaii501 · 03-03-2018 07:37PM

Just took max €31.25. Rest gone to a trader

yaboya1 · 03-03-2018 07:42PM

WickIow Brave wrote: »

Look at Racing Post's last tweet 'Heavy could feature in going description'.

Also told that Gordon Elliott said at a preview that Samcro will run in the Supreme if it's soft.

Yeah, but the O'Learys decide where he runs no matter what Elliott says. Elliott wanted to run Don Cossack in the 2015 Gold Cup, but he ran in the Ryanair because that's where the O'Learys wanted him. Make no mistake about who makes the calls with their horses. It's not the trainer.

WickIow Brave · 03-03-2018 07:45PM

yaboya1 wrote: »

Yeah, but the O'Learys decide where he runs no matter what Elliott says. Elliott wanted to run Don Cossack in the 2015 Gold Cup, but he ran in the Ryanair because that's where the O'Learys wanted him. Make no mistake about who makes the calls with their horses. It's not the trainer.

That was three years ago. Gordy is a different beast entirely these days.

yaboya1 · 03-03-2018 07:50PM

WickIow Brave wrote: »

That was three years ago. Gordy is a different beast entirely these days.

Point still stands. They've had similar situations with other trainers.
Mouse Morris gave them their first festival winner in the Gold Cup, yet they wouldn't let him run First Lieutenant in the same race despite his protestations. They even did the same with Mullins, who tells all his other owners where their horses are running.
He'd the same situation as Morris/Ellott with Valseur Lido. Lost the argument.
They call the shots. End of.

WickIow Brave · 03-03-2018 07:55PM

yaboya1 wrote: »

Point still stands. They've had similar situations with other trainers.
Mouse Morris gave them their first festival winner in the Gold Cup, yet they wouldn't let him run First Lieutenant in the same race despite his protestations. Even with Mullins, who tells all his other owners where their horses are running.
He'd the same situation as Morris/Ellott with Valseur Lido. Lost the argument.
They call the shots. End of.

You can hardly compare Samcro to Valseur Lido?!

What do you think Eddie O'Leary is going to say 'Sorry Gordon, he runs in the Ballymore or we're taking the horse off you'. And send him where? To Mouse Morris?

I know a fella who works at Mouses and he was telling me about Eddie O'Leary a few weeks ago and I asked is he like that with Gordon and he laughed at me.

yaboya1 · 03-03-2018 08:02PM

WickIow Brave wrote: »

You can hardly compare Samcro to Valseur Lido?!

What do you think Eddie O'Leary is going to say 'Sorry Gordon, he runs in the Ballymore or we're taking the horse off you'. And send him where? To Mouse Morris?

I know a fella who works at Mouses and he was telling me about Eddie O'Leary a few weeks ago and I asked is he like that with Gordon and he laughed at me.

I didn't compare Samcro to anything. I'm making the point that these owners call the shots with regard to where their horses run.

I never suggested they'd take horses out of Elliott's (that was you), but on that point, they'd no issue taking everything out of Mullins yard so I wouldn't say it's as far fetched as you think.

You're trying to ridicule what I'm saying, yet I've given you numerous examples to prove my point. Can you give me one to back up your argument?

danganabu · 03-03-2018 08:07PM

yaboya1 wrote: »

I never suggested they'd take horses out of Elliott's (that was you), but on that point, they'd no issue taking everything out of Mullins yard so I wouldn't say it's as far fetched as you think.

And go where with them, back to WPM with cap in hand??

WickIow Brave · 03-03-2018 08:07PM

yaboya1 wrote: »

I didn't compare Samcro to anything. I'm making the point that these owners call the shots with regard to where their horses run.

I never suggested they'd take horses out of Elliott's (that was you), but on that point, they'd no issue taking everything out of Mullins yard so I wouldn't say it's as far fetched as you think.

You're trying to ridicule what I'm saying, yet I've given you numerous examples to prove my point. Can you give me one to back up your argument?

You can take the horses off Willie Mullins when you have Gordon Elliott to replace him but where are you going to go when you take them off Gordon?

Ah I'm not trying to ridicule you at all. Like you say you have numerous examples, I have none. All I'm just saying is if Gordon wants Samcro in the Supreme, he will run in the Supreme.

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