Looting in Lidl?(mod warning in op-read it)

Mr.Crinklewood · 03-03-2018 11:49AM

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

He deleted his comment after the JCB attack happened, but his words are being twisted now big time to pretend he was in full support of the whole incident. He's threatening law suits.

Cheers for information re deleted tweets.

Actually meant what has said since, in relation to it (now its more than robbing bread )

whisky_galore · 03-03-2018 11:50AM

Patser wrote: »

Radio news just said 8 people in court today aged 24 to 47.

47!!!!!! Not exactly bored, deprived youth.

None of them are young teens, 'where are the parents' territory.

They stole Lidl's corn,
So the young might see the morn...

Fred Swanson · 03-03-2018 11:51AM

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Ineedaname · 03-03-2018 11:52AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

A few years ago somewhere close to my house got robbed. It was in a rural area and it was witnessed by somebody. Two guys aged around twelve - thirteen broke in through a window and smashed doors/etc inside. This all happened whilst an older man waited in the car. Same goes with other rural crimes I've heard about on farmers. Sometimes they find children foot prints in the ground.

My friend is a Guard and he sees this all the time. They know the kids will only get a slap on the wrist if their caught. Then soon as they turn 18 their record is wiped clean anyway.

IE 222 · 03-03-2018 11:53AM

mikemac2 wrote: »

No thanks

Limerick already did that as part of their regeneration project with predictable results

Limericks mistake was putting them all together.

erica74 · 03-03-2018 11:53AM

Just watched some of the videos and some of these muppets are showing their faces in videos while holding bags of stuff they robbed from Lidl. That's the level of intelligence we're dealing with.

The thing that makes me so angry is that the gardai, the army and the various emergency services had far more important stuff to do last night but got caught up dealing with these feral scumbags.

Buford T Justice · 03-03-2018 11:53AM

IE 222 wrote: »

The state needs to start moving these disruptive people/families into rural areas where they can cause less damage and live in whatever type of sh1t hole they want without the rest of us having to put up and witness it. Let them see what a lack of facilities and services really looks like.

Yeah, nimbyism is always the right answer.

anewme · 03-03-2018 11:55AM

Just seen all the videos of the burnt out and ransacked cars on the Bawnlea Road.

As if people were not stressed enough to have to abandon their car, to now return to fund it burnt out.

HONKEY TONK · 03-03-2018 11:55AM

I see the future how this will play out

Defence counsel told the court that the defendant had issues and had gone through a turbulent period but has been getting help and has stabilized.

Defence counsel told the court that his client had a troubled childhood and finished school at 14.

Defence counsel told the court that the defendant chaotic lifestyle and had a drug problem.

Defence counsel told the court his client recognised he had a problem with alcohol and tried to address it by going into an addiction treatment centre.

Defence counsel told the court that since the incident his client has been full of worry and depression.

Defence counsel told the court that his clients father was an alcoholic.

Defence counsel told the court that his client hung around with the wrong crowd and was easily influenced by others.

Verdict. 8-month suspended sentence for 2 years.

Cantona's Collars · 03-03-2018 11:55AM

The thing about areas like this is the amount of money pumped into them. Community centres,playgrounds etc. Yet all we hear is "we've nothing".
You don't see stuff like this in private estates and this carry on doesn't take place as people are too busy working to pay for the roof over their heads.
As an example,when the biggest council estate was built in my town,they put in a playground as soon as the houses were full. It lasted 3 nights before it was wrecked and the basketball court used as an area to burn cars on.

tastyt · 03-03-2018 11:56AM

Someone said on this thread last night that " judges dont live in Tallaght "

This is the root of the problem. The scum carrying out these crimes have no fear of being caught, why would they? A slap on the wrist or a couple of months playing PlayStation with their mates and cousins on the inside.

I actually dont blame the guards, im sure they think whats the ****ing point anymore? They lay a finger on these scrotes and they are the ones in trouble.

Funny thing is these judges think they are giving people from disadvantaged areas a chance and being soft on them will hopefully bring them around. Judges need to start thinking about the vast majority of people in tallaght who are decent law abiding citizens being terrorised and let down by these scum.

Your not doing people from tallaght any favours by giving these young pricks a twentieth or thirtieth chance, your ruining the community for decent people. But judges dont give a **** because judges dont live in tallaght

IE 222 · 03-03-2018 11:57AM

manonboard wrote: »

So you want the nice, decent people building a community in rural ireland, who already have it very tough with far less services... To now have to deal with a major influx of anti social people who will ruin the communities they have already built?

You can't just export a problem like this. It's not a matter of remove them, and it stops. We as a society created them, we are still creating more. They didnt magically appear out of nothing.

They cant be mixed with anyone. A site away from civilisation where they cant inflict or cause any more damage to anyone but to themselves.

Green Peter · 03-03-2018 12:00PM

Pelvis wrote:

Why would I be embarrassed? What has it got to do with me that I personally would feel embarrassed about it?

Pelvis wrote:

Get a grip.

They are scum, utter scum, their parents were scum and their offspring will be scum. They are a drain on society, it time society realised this and stopped pandering to these people being so politically correct and cut their welfare payments on conviction. There are good working people in these areas who contributed to society and took the opportunities to better themselves. These scum never will and should not benefit from the state if they show no effort to make any positive contribution.

um7y1h83ge06nx · 03-03-2018 12:00PM

I think we need to seriously look at segregation of the trouble makers. Move out the decent people and move in the rest of the scum. Once there is a significant security presence on the borders of these areas to keep the law abiding people safe the scum can do whatever they want to one another. Too much time worrying about the welfare of criminals in this country.

IE 222 · 03-03-2018 12:01PM

Buford T Justice wrote: »

Yeah, nimbyism is always the right answer.

Well free handouts and good home in highly sought after areas instead of people willing to infest isn't exactly working.

Ultimate Seduction · 03-03-2018 12:01PM

On sky news now in a min

03-03-2018 12:04PM

tastyt wrote: »

Your not doing people from tallaght any favours by giving these young pricks a twentieth or thirtieth chance, your ruining the community for decent people. But judges dont give a **** because judges dont live in tallaght

Rubbish. Judges are bound by the law and the sentencing guidelines. Campaign for changes and provide the Judges the ability/power to do proper sentencing. While you're at it, reform the prison system so that its somewhere that criminals don't want to go (somehow without messing with their "rights").

TBH I think it would be better for Tallaght people to turn on these people, and kick the **** out of them until they stop behaving the way they do. The law (and our society) is pretty much incapable of punishing or reforming them.

dxhound2005 · 03-03-2018 12:06PM

There were some posts last night calling for the looters to be shot.

e.g. Line them up and shoot the bastards

It was probably a reaction to seeing the videos. If there were no videos and people were just reading news reports, I think there would have been fewer calls for shoot to kill. I'm glad it didn't happen anyway, just for the sake of the security personnel who would have to do the shooting, and to avoid future claims for compensation from the families of the deceased.

Now that some of them are in custody, the could be executed. But as was shown in 1916, the mood of the populace can change in the cold light of day, and this would probably not be acceptable to the vast majority.

iamwhoiam · 03-03-2018 12:06PM

tastyt wrote: »

Someone said on this thread last night that " judges dont live in Tallaght "

This is the root of the problem. The scum carrying out these crimes have no fear of being caught, why would they? A slap on the wrist or a couple of months playing PlayStation with their mates and cousins on the inside.

I actually dont blame the guards, im sure they think whats the ****ing point anymore? They lay a finger on these scrotes and they are the ones in trouble.

Funny thing is these judges think they are giving people from disadvantaged areas a chance and being soft on them will hopefully bring them around. Judges need to start thinking about the vast majority of people in tallaght who are decent law abiding citizens being terrorised and let down by these scum.

Your not doing people from tallaght any favours by giving these young pricks a twentieth or thirtieth chance, your ruining the community for decent people. But judges dont give a **** because judges dont live in tallaght

Exactly ., The vast majority of people in Tallaght are shocked to the core about this feral lawlessness and they were frightened and scared and shocked .This is a huge wake up call for the powers that be to be aware of lawlessness and its effect on decent people .Texts and Whatsapps were flying around Tallaght last night from people frightened and scared and horrified at this event unfolding and seemed like it was out of control .Looting is a breakdown of society and is much more frightening than a robbery because it effects us all .

limnam · 03-03-2018 12:11PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

There are more than a few scumbags in Tallaght. I do feel sorry for the decent people but there does seem to be a higher percentage that don’t give a **** about anyone else than most other areas.

Most other areas don't have 80k people living in it. So a small % of that makes a for a lot of "scumbags" in a town.

iamwhoiam · 03-03-2018 12:12PM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

Yet when the Garda look for witnesses or information, they will be met with the typical amnesia epidemic that these areas seem to suffer from.

Oh carry on putting the whole area down why don't you .Do you not understand that the vast majority do not know who they are ? If I knew one name I would be now donning my wellies and going down to the station .But I don,t , most of us don't and most of us would if we could .

limnam · 03-03-2018 12:14PM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

Yet when the Garda look for witnesses or information, they will be met with the typical amnesia epidemic that these areas seem to suffer from.

You might suffer amnesia if you had to go up against these people in a public court room. You put yourself,your family and home in serious danger.

Cantona's Collars · 03-03-2018 12:14PM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

Yet when the Garda look for witnesses or information, they will be met with the typical amnesia epidemic that these areas seem to suffer from.

The problem is that if you are seen as "a rat" they'd attack you. It's that element of fear that stops people giving evidence.

03-03-2018 12:18PM

anewme wrote: »

Just seen all the videos of the burnt out and ransacked cars on the Bawnlea Road.

As if people were not stressed enough to have to abandon their car, to now return to fund it burnt out.

Just saw that. ****ing crazy.

andekwarhola · 03-03-2018 12:20PM

Knowing the area well, it's a grave disservice to say that everybody in the area is like that.

Most people are fine and embarrassed by/despise those scummers too but are understandably afraid.

It's fine and well to threaten violence and informing from a middle-class armchair but would any of you have went out to- or informed on - that gang, living in that area with your kids in the house?

Even if you brought the community vigilantes back (which to be honest, has big merit in areas like that with a serious policing vacuum) like the 80s, they're the ones that have more to lose and would end up in trouble, possibly exposed online, maybe sacked from work, and ironically, pilloried by the online liberal commentariat that don't have to live there.

facehugger99 · 03-03-2018 12:26PM

Wonder where Paul Murphy was while his ‘people’ were wrecking the place?

Richard Hillman · 03-03-2018 12:28PM

There are plenty of people in these areas (my own included) that turn blind eyes to little Johnny because he's Mary's young lad and "he's a good lad really".

When the video of the dumper truck was whizzing around the area there were some people laughing at it. If that was nipped in the bud early the Lidl destruction would have ended fast. We'll see over the coming months if the locals are willing to go to the Garda and identify each and everyone of them. Or are they Going to keep quiet because Dwayne is Patser's nephew and "he's a good lad really"

03-03-2018 12:28PM

anewme wrote: »

Just seen all the videos of the burnt out and ransacked cars on the Bawnlea Road.

As if people were not stressed enough to have to abandon their car, to now return to fund it burnt out.

And some hug-a-thug on here said there’s no such thing as human vermin. Above would suggest otherwise.

hurler32 · 03-03-2018 12:29PM

There is no prison space so what can the judges do??

Until there are 2 or 3 prisons built criminals can pretty much do as they please...

scopper · 03-03-2018 12:29PM

HONKEY TONK wrote: »

You're justifying my point.

People in these areas can be shocked all they want.

Resident - "The Garda are doing nothing and the place is like the wild west"

Garda - "Can you give me the names of the people involved?"

Resident - "I cant be doing that now Garda"

OK, now imagine this but with 20-30 of the lads sitting across the road staring you down.

Looting in Lidl?(mod warning in op-read it)

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