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Hyundai Kona EV pre orders open

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,267 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Why would they, they're both auto makers.

    Batteries are a commodity at this point, and it makes way more sense to purchase from the best available supplier.
    A lesson that Nissan have just learnt and have sold their share of AESC.

    Tesla's worldwide charging network is a land grab, really it's just a giant advertising system for Tesla Energy whilst grabbing premium spots for a future switch to standardised charging infrastructure.
    Smart for them, not good for society as a whole.


  • Posts: 2,795 [Deleted User]


    Dglflyer wrote: »
    Nissan and Hyundai are not building their own worldwide charging network or battery factory though..

    In fairness nissan has done both. They built 3 factories that manufacture cells and they also have publicly accessible CHAdeMO chargers at dealerships. They are also currently expanding the charger network to cover all the rest of the dealers where possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Dglflyer


    i stand corrected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    any idea what time the Kona will actually be announced tomorrow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    any idea what time the Kona will actually be announced tomorrow?

    I saw somewhere that it was 10am CET


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Dglflyer


    ditto on the 10am CET


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,267 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭osheen


    I've seen an orange 181 kona ev driving around North Dublin for the last week. Is this a press car ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    an orange kona maybe. Doubt its an EV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭osheen


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    an orange kona maybe. Doubt its an EV.

    - Just checked pics of standard models. Exhaust is hidden behind rear bumpers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    38 minutes left. Good thing I don't have college til 10 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭slicedpanman


    looks great... nice job on the front grille (learned from the ionic I think :)) excited now but no dates mentioned for anything.
    The video and a PDF brochure are available here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭slicedpanman


    64kWh version -> 470km WLTP with 150 kW motor, 0-100km/h 7.6 sec, effec 15.2
    39kWh version -> 300km WLTP with 99 kW motor,  0-100km/h 9.3, effec 14.8
    max speed: 167 km/h
    only mention of charging is; 100 kW DC with 7.2 kW on board AC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I am not a huge fan of the grill.

    Any mention of price or when delivery/pre order starts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,945 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    The video says 80% charge in under an hour.

    Surely with potentially 100kw DC charging that should be much quicker than "under an hour"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭slicedpanman


    Shefwedfan wrote: »

    Any mention of price or when delivery/pre order starts?
    No mention of price or dates for pre-oders
    found this in the docs on the site:
    The charging port is located in the vehicle’s front next to the Hyundai logo.
    I think the best place for the port, not on the rear side 
    Other notes in the docs: boot capacity 332L incl storage for charging cable (373L without)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Any big youtube video launch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭slicedpanman




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan



    Sorry, yes I seen that one. Most cars have a big launch with press etc and you can ask questions

    I guess they are waiting for Geneva car show....

    Personally I would buy one.....for my wife:P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭slicedpanman


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Personally I would buy one.....for my wife:P

    :D I'm impressed with it overall and may well get one for myself :)... one small niggle is the small-ish boot (compared to what I have in the Prius) but I'd get over that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,334 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    The video says 80% charge in under an hour.

    Surely with potentially 100kw DC charging that should be much quicker than "under an hour"?

    The text says:
    Charge Time / Quick Charge (DC) (connected to 100 kW DC fast charger)
    Approx. 54 min up to 80% state of charge


    Clearly it can't do sustained 100kW charging.
    That suggests it is averaging 57kW which is much the same as the IONIQ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    :D I'm impressed with it overall and may well get one for myself :)... one small niggle is the small-ish boot (compared to what I have in the Prius) but I'd get over that

    Not really the boot, getting 3 car seats into the back of it would be an issue

    The marketing seems to focus on the lady instead of the gentleman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭positron


    From here: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/hyundai-kona-electric-gets-292-mile-range-76sec-0-62mph-time
    There’s additional storage space in the front of the car.

    Sounds great, even if it's shopping / small bags. Perhaps charger cable can go there leaving boot free for normal use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,612 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    My Ioniq PCP is up in June 2019, and if the long-range version is ready, I'll be upgrading!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭munsterbear


    Anyone think there could be a hybrid option in the future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭slicedpanman


    positron wrote: »
    From here: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/hyundai-kona-electric-gets-292-mile-range-76sec-0-62mph-time
    There’s additional storage space in the front of the car.

    Sounds great, even if it's shopping / small bags. Perhaps charger cable can go there leaving boot free for normal use?
    I think that that article may have misunderstood a comment from the launch video... there was mention of extra space "up front" but I think, in the video, they meant under the center console between the front 2 seats.
    If they had actually included a frunk by design and have the charge port also at the front of the car then it would be logical/sensible to put the charger cables in the frunk.... but it sounds like there is a specially designed compartment in the boot for the cables. doesn't seem to add up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Anyone think there could be a hybrid option in the future?

    You would guess that based on the hybrid sales of the Ioniq they will do something similar with the Kona.

    They have the technology already in place and they seem to be targeting Toyota so it would go into direct competition with the C-HR.

    The 470km(prob 400KM) range is perfect for Ireland but we are tiny. The big markets in UK/US/Europe that range is small.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Nice

    Finally a proper reasonably priced, one household EV to land here at last

    450km/200bhp is all the car I need

    Hyundai 5 year unlimited mileage warranty probably stands here too, they make good reliable cars

    I will buy this over model 3 if its priced around 30-35k

    Makes alot of financial sense tbh with Hyundais excellent warranty and the huge 64kWh battery pack meaning I don't need an Ice any more

    Buy for 35k, keep for 5 years, sell for 10k or so ( might be worth even more)

    5k a year running costs as fuel, tax etc is negligible

    Impressed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Casati


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Nice

    Finally a proper reasonably priced, one household EV to land here at last

    450km/200bhp is all the car I need

    Hyundai 5 year unlimited mileage warranty probably stands here too, they make good reliable cars

    I will buy this over model 3 if its priced around 30-35k

    Makes alot of financial sense tbh with Hyundais excellent warranty and the huge 64kWh battery pack meaning I don't need an Ice any more

    Buy for 35k, keep for 5 years, sell for 10k or so ( might be worth even more)

    5k a year running costs as fuel, tax etc is negligible

    Impressed[/quote

    V impressed. Give it couple of years and when 500km / 200bhp is the next norm then we will see mass adoption. I’d be concerned about buying anything without 400km min range now when family cars like this are coming soon


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