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irishman86 · 18-02-2018 11:38PM

Rekop dog wrote: »

You can't say he isn't passionate:pac:

Hes been a breath of fresh air

Jelle1880 · 21-02-2018 09:32AM

Lazio are letting De Vrij leave for free...

What a **** decision on both sides, he openly said he wanted to sign a new contract so the club could get money for him and then changed his idea (likely because of his manager), basically wanted more money. So they decided to just let him go...

No doubt the likes of Inter will be more than happy to snatch him up.

irishman86 · 21-02-2018 03:35PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Lazio are letting De Vrij leave for free...

What a **** decision on both sides, he openly said he wanted to sign a new contract so the club could get money for him and then changed his idea (likely because of his manager), basically wanted more money. So they decided to just let him go...

No doubt the likes of Inter will be more than happy to snatch him up.

Love to see Milan go for him
Honestly any team that gets him, gets a bargain

FCIM · 21-02-2018 04:12PM

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/delinquentweet/status/965341199346425856?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E1

The man in a nutshell.

I don't want Spalletti to go, except perhaps for his own sake now he's realised what a sh1thouse Suning are, but this makes me imagine Matrix and what he'd do to our players... probably knock them out after performances like last weekend...

FCIM · 24-02-2018 08:28PM

Rafinha starts. Be interesting to see if this brings the required upturn in performance.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 09:04PM

Changes f\/ck all. Well that's just great.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 09:10PM

Happy Lunar New Year on the advertising hoardings. Says it all about Suning. Yep, we play in the Chinese Premier League or whatever it's called.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 10:13PM

I didn't even celebrate. Why should I?

I did, a little, for the second. Forza!

dor83 · 24-02-2018 10:15PM

2-0, I actually feel sorry for Benevento, completely undeserved.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 10:17PM

dor83 wrote: »

2-0, I actually feel sorry for Benevento, completely undeserved.

Would agree. But let's see where we go from here. Rafinha is obviously useless anyway and we shouldn't be wasting any money on him in the summer.

dor83 · 24-02-2018 10:20PM

If we play the way we've been playing lately then Milan will hammer us next week.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 10:24PM

dor83 wrote: »

If we play the way we've been playing lately then Milan will hammer us next week.

I don't think it will but the hope has to be that winning comfortably, at least technically, might make the players believe in themselves a bit. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 10:36PM

That rule of booking players for playing on after a whistle is a farce. OK, book a player if he fires a ball into a stand after a whistle or blasts it halfway across the field but don't book a player who in a goalscoring position scores. Bill Shankly would hit the roof with this rule as his mantra was play the ball, not the whistle. What happens if a player thinks he hears a whistle that was never blown and gives up a potential goal because he's banned for a match if he gets booked?

Headshot · 24-02-2018 10:36PM

You will be supporting Ac tomorrow.

It's funny how things turn, early in the season it would be a piss easy win for Roma but this Ac Milan team under Gattuso is a different beast altogether.

dor83 · 24-02-2018 10:37PM

FCIM wrote: »

I don't think it will but the hope has to be that winning comfortably, at least technically, might make the players believe in themselves a bit. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

I've tried to stay positive about it but it's plainly obvious that most of the players just don't care so I've stopped expecting anything from them. I was reading what De Boer said during the week and it makes so much sense when you look at the team.

“I had more complications in Italy and it wasn’t just because of the language, but also the way of transmitting my messages and my ideas.”

“Our way of thinking is much more similar to England, whereas at Inter it was all based on sentiment. They formed a block of seven or eight players and the rest try to knock them out.

“It was a bit chaotic, everyone did what they wanted. When I tried to make Inter play position-based football, well… I’d never seen anything like it. Youth team players at Ajax did it better.

“I didn’t expect that to happen. Even in training, they gave up on the routines very early and didn’t see the point of them.”

The players know that they can not care and it will fall on the managers head not theirs, the club need to put their full backing behind the manager and if the players don't like it then tough. If that was happening in training then they should have been fining players for not following the managers instructions, hit them where it hurts and they will soon care.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 10:41PM

Pffft.

dor83 · 24-02-2018 10:42PM

Headshot wrote: »

You will be supporting Ac tomorrow.

It's funny how things turn, early in the season it would be a piss easy win for Roma but this Ac Milan team under Gattuso is a different beast altogether.

To be honest I don't think it will matter in the end, we'll drop a lot more points and I just can't see us finishing ahead of Roma or Lazio, the way we've been playing we'll be lucky to finish ahead of Milan. I'm being more negative than usual about it today though so my view on it might change by tomorrow evening.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 10:47PM

dor83 wrote: »

FCIM wrote: »

I don't think it will but the hope has to be that winning comfortably, at least technically, might make the players believe in themselves a bit. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

I've tried to stay positive about it but it's plainly obvious that most of the players just don't care so I've stopped expecting anything from them. I was reading what De Boer said during the week and it makes so much sense when you look at the team.

“I had more complications in Italy and it wasn’t just because of the language, but also the way of transmitting my messages and my ideas.”

“Our way of thinking is much more similar to England, whereas at Inter it was all based on sentiment. They formed a block of seven or eight players and the rest try to knock them out.

“It was a bit chaotic, everyone did what they wanted. When I tried to make Inter play position-based football, well… I’d never seen anything like it. Youth team players at Ajax did it better.

“I didn’t expect that to happen. Even in training, they gave up on the routines very early and didn’t see the point of them.”

The players know that they can not care and it will fall on the managers head not theirs, the club need to put their full backing behind the manager and if the players don't like it then tough. If that was happening in training then they should have been fining players for not following the managers instructions, hit them where it hurts and they will soon care.

That pffft was aimed at the performance and players, not you

.

They need one of two things, someone like Matrix in the dressing room with a free reign to do anything. Literally nothing off the table. Or the ultras to put down a serious line of what is and what isn't acceptable and have consequences if they go below that line. I honestly think Inter is seen as a soft touch for players to go there, earn good money and it doesn't matter how they play. Look how quickly Rafinha has caught on. He was disgraceful tonight. Let's put an estimate on how long that would be tolerated at Barcelona...

dor83 · 24-02-2018 11:00PM

FCIM wrote: »

That pffft was aimed at the performance and players, not you .

They need one of two things, someone like Matrix in the dressing room with a free reign to do anything. Literally nothing off the table. Or the ultras to put down a serious line of what is and what isn't acceptable and have consequences if they go below that line. I honestly think Inter is seen as a soft touch for players to go there, earn good money and it doesn't matter how they play. Look how quickly Rafinha has caught on. He was disgraceful tonight. Let's put an estimate on how long that would be tolerated at Barcelona...

I love the passion he has for the club but he'd most likely be a disaster because passion isn't enough and managing in India is not enough experience for Inter, maybe as a coach or even assistant just to have him there. There are no consequences that the ultras can put on the players, well except violence but that's not something I'd ever condone. I do agree that it has become ok for players to join just for a pay check since Jose left in particular.

FCIM · 24-02-2018 11:52PM

dor83 wrote: »

I love the passion he has for the club but he'd most likely be a disaster because passion isn't enough and managing in India is not enough experience for Inter, maybe as a coach or even assistant just to have him there. There are no consequences that the ultras can put on the players, well except violence but that's not something I'd ever condone. I do agree that it has become ok for players to join just for a pay check since Jose left in particular.

I'm not talking about him doing a particular role, just having him in the dressing room to motivate players and to give a reaction when they don't perform as they should. The ultras are capable of giving consequences to the players but I guess we're on a different page with what those can be. If highly paid players are happy to just collect their wages there has to be some bottom line that they all understand in terms of what is acceptable and what isn't and I wouldn't be quick in pushing ideas off the table as to what those consequences are.

dor83 · 25-02-2018 12:13AM

FCIM wrote: »

I'm not talking about him doing a particular role, just having him in the dressing room to motivate players and to give a reaction when they don't perform as they should. The ultras are capable of giving consequences to the players but I guess we're on a different page with what those can be. If highly paid players are happy to just collect their wages there has to be some bottom line that they all understand in terms of what is acceptable and what isn't and I wouldn't be quick in pushing ideas off the table as to what those consequences are.

Well I just think the players don't care what the fans do with regards to protests and the like unless they are in real danger, and they have no way of negatively impacting their wages. What consequences do you think the ultras can put on the players?

FCIM · 25-02-2018 10:45AM

dor83 wrote: »

FCIM wrote: »

I'm not talking about him doing a particular role, just having him in the dressing room to motivate players and to give a reaction when they don't perform as they should. The ultras are capable of giving consequences to the players but I guess we're on a different page with what those can be. If highly paid players are happy to just collect their wages there has to be some bottom line that they all understand in terms of what is acceptable and what isn't and I wouldn't be quick in pushing ideas off the table as to what those consequences are.

Well I just think the players don't care what the fans do with regards to protests and the like unless they are in real danger, and they have no way of negatively impacting their wages. What consequences do you think the ultras can put on the players?

Same consequences as ultras at other clubs use.

Rekop dog · 25-02-2018 05:44PM

Feel I should have a weekly how good is Milinković-Savić slot in this thread.

FCIM · 25-02-2018 05:53PM

Rekop dog wrote: »

Feel I should have a weekly how good is Milinković-Savić slot in this thread.

Fabulous player. In fairness, his brother isn't too shabby either but gets no attention on him. Can't see Sergej staying in Italy to be honest unless it was Juventus who bought him. I don't know who else could meet the kind of wage demands he potentially has.

Rekop dog · 25-02-2018 06:28PM

FCIM wrote: »

Fabulous player. In fairness, his brother isn't too shabby either but gets no attention on him. Can't see Sergej staying in Italy to be honest unless it was Juventus who bought him. I don't know who else could meet the kind of wage demands he potentially has.

Huh wasn't even aware he had a goalkeeper brother who incidentally looks like the oldest 21 year old I've ever seen.

But yeah Sergej is destined for one of Europe's elite clubs.

25-02-2018 06:33PM

Le Streghe are at the foot of the table in their first ever Serie A campaign, but out-played the Nerazzurri for long periods at San Siro.
Roberto Gagliardini was not even booked for a studs-up tackle on Sandro in the opening stages and Benevento were denied a penalty for Andrea Ranocchia’s challenge on Danilo Cataldi.
“Pairetto’s refereeing performance last night at San Siro was truly ignoble and scandalous,” said Mayor of Benevento Clemente Mastella.
“It is no longer possible to tolerate such injustice, nor continue to see VAR used so ‘half-heartedly’ when it comes to less prestigious teams.
“The level of facetious commentary from some television pundits and commentators has also now reached levels that are incredible and no longer tolerable.
“If this is football, then frankly it’s better that Serie A is played only by clubs owned by Chinese companies, Americans and Canadians, so the rest can play in their own League.”

Headshot · 25-02-2018 07:20PM

damn was looking forward to that Juve match but was postponed because of the weather

FCIM · 25-02-2018 07:44PM

Headshot wrote: »

damn was looking forward to that Juve match but was postponed because of the weather

How "convenient" given their injury crisis.

Headshot · 25-02-2018 07:45PM

FCIM wrote: »

How "convenient" given their injury crisis.

Mother Nature in cahoots with Juve

That Bitch

irishguitarlad · 25-02-2018 08:46PM

Come on Milán!! Bring back the old days! Haha

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