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Is ADHD just a label thats put on children.

  • 24-02-2018 08:49PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    It seems ADHD is just a lazy label thats put on children with little basis in reality most of which is just normal childhood behaviour the fact is there's always been differences in children some are loud some are quiet some are sociable others less so yet now they must be labeled with a condition which gives parents the excuse to shriek responsibility towards their children. Children are different to each other why must they be labeled because of it why cant we just accept those differences instead of putting labels like ADHD on them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,852 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Mutant z wrote: »
    It seems ADHD is just a lazy label thats put on children with little basis in reality most of which is just normal childhood behaviour the fact is there's always been differences in children some are loud some are quiet some are sociable others less so yet now they must be labeled with a condition which gives parents the excuse to shriek responsibility towards their children. Children are different to each other why must they be labeled because of it why cant we just accept those differences instead of putting labels like ADHD on them.

    There are probably a few mad fcukers who have ADHD but most kids that are diagnosed with it are just bold kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    There are probably a few mad fcukers who have ADHD but most kids that are diagnosed with it are just bold kids.

    Exactly its just a lazy diagnosis and used as an excuse for parents to not take responsibility for their own children.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mutant z wrote: »
    Exactly its just a lazy diagnosis and used as an excuse for parents to not take responsibility for their own children.

    How do you know?

    What studies have you performed or read? Are you a doctor?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mutant z wrote: »
    Exactly its just a lazy diagnosis and used as an excuse for parents to not take responsibility for their own children.

    Isn’t this just a lazy generalisation and an excuse for to blame parents?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Brian? wrote: »
    How do you know?

    What studies have you performed or read? Are you a doctor?

    He saw a video on Youtube.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,705 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I've spoken to teachers about this and they generally say that getting a diagnosis of anything takes a good while and aren't handed out as lightly as people make it out to be.
    But if a diagnoses is made and they can extra resources to help the child it generally does help.
    I've seen kids being written off by teachers as bold children but when somebody came along and helped them they generally settled down. They might be the odd wobble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Brian? wrote: »
    How do you know?

    What studies have you performed or read? Are you a doctor?

    Brian? , you know we're not allowed be doctors or give legal advice , however I will give vetinary advice sprinkled with some anecdotal crap if needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Brian? wrote: »
    How do you know?

    What studies have you performed or read? Are you a doctor?

    I dont doubt some kids have issues but in many cases its just badly behaved kids who suddenly have a label put on them to excuse their behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,245 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    There is a huge difference between a child that has been assessed and diagnosed by experts and one who is simply said to have ADHD by a parent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    It's not just a label. It's also a really great song by Kendrick Lamar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    You need to slap a label on them to get help

    It's very wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,965 ✭✭✭buried


    Eight doobies to the face, F**k that

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,335 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    All these new found conditions are just a way for social workers to feather their own nests and an easy way for schools to get more resources from the government


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Too much sugar and E numbers, whatever you do don't give them Lucozade or RedBull unless they've actually got proper dengue fever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    All these new found conditions are just a way for social workers to feather their own nests and an easy way for schools to get more resources from the government
    its usually the parents who push for a diagnosis

    it absolves them of any blame.
    they can go on not parenting or putting manners on their child


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,541 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mutant z wrote: »
    I dont doubt some kids have issues but in many cases its just badly behaved kids who suddenly have a label put on them to excuse their behaviour.

    This opinion is based on what evidence?

    For a start: what % of kids are diagnosed with ADHD?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Rene Spicy Armada


    I met a bold kid once and im an expert in all medical conditions now and kids were never ever as terrible in all of history as now and they all need a smack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Mutant z wrote: »
    I dont doubt some kids have issues but in many cases its just badly behaved kids who suddenly have a label put on them to excuse their behaviour.

    I'd ask for some proof, but it doesn't exist.
    All these new found conditions are just a way for social workers to feather their own nests and an easy way for schools to get more resources from the government

    Yup, that's it, there's absolutely no other reason for it.

    It's threads, and idiotic theories, like this that create stigma surrounding conditions like this. Mental health is serious and it doesn't need adolescent pseudo intellects to ridicule it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    All these new found conditions are just a way for social workers to feather their own nests and an easy way for schools to get more resources from the government

    My son has been in resource classes since 5 years of age , he's now 16 and benefits greatly along with being expected to do very well despite having " double digit" dyslexia , well worth a Google in itself along with a diagnosis of Predominantly Inattentive Presentation

    No social worker is involved or was ever involved nor medication.In fact there would unlikely ever be a social worker involved in a diagnosis.

    I'll always be grateful to his various teachers and resource teams for going that extra mile with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Everything from too much TV - too much sugar has been attached .


    Diagnosing ADHD in children depends on a set of strict criteria. To be diagnosed with ADHD, your child must have six or more symptoms of inattentiveness, or six or more symptoms of hyperactivity and impulsiveness. See ADHD - Symptoms for examples of such symptoms.

    The type of ADHD your child will be diagnosed with will depend on the number of symptoms they have from each group. For example, if they have eight symptoms of hyperactivity and impulsiveness and only three symptoms of inattentiveness, they will be diagnosed with ADHD mainly hyperactive-impulsive.

    To be diagnosed with ADHD, your child must also have:

    been displaying symptoms continuously for at least six months
    started to show symptoms before the age of seven - although in some cases a diagnosis can still be made if symptoms do not start until after this age
    been showing symptoms in at least two different settings - for example, at home and at school, to rule out the possibility that the behaviour is just a reaction to certain teachers or to parental control
    symptoms that make their lives considerably more difficult, on a social, academic or occupational level
    symptoms that are not just part of a developmental disorder or difficult phase, and are not better accounted for by another condition


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Brian? wrote: »
    This opinion is based on what evidence?

    For a start: what % of kids are diagnosed with ADHD?

    Like i said kids can be a handful but you seriously cant believe everyone of them thats been diagnosed with ADHD actually have the conditions if they are hyperactive its often from a high sugary diet they are being fed like bottles of coca cola for instance that could set anyone off and simply a lack of discipline at home why what was once considered childhood misbehaviour suddenly been rediagnosed as ADHD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    its usually the parents who push for a diagnosis

    it absolves them of any blame.
    they can go on not parenting or putting manners on their child

    Load of bollox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    ADHD would be a good name for an AcDc tribute band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,965 ✭✭✭buried


    I dunno lads, A lot of modern day mammys & daddys just want to have the kids to show how great they can breed and make little babies to show the rest of the tribe/community/family.

    But then the babies grow up, start talking back, generating actual work and the added actual responsibility.

    Then - "ME CHILD HAS GOT THE ADHD!!!"

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Do families with ADHD children qualify for DCA payments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Just remember without these "abnormal" kids we would have no internet no art no engineering no science

    A very grey world without them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Just remember without these "abnormal" kids we would have no internet no art no engineering no science

    A very grey world without them

    How did you come to that conclusion


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Just remember without these "abnormal" kids we would have no internet no art no engineering no science

    A very grey world without them

    I can't agree with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,400 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    No it is definitely not just a label


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,245 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Just remember without these "abnormal" kids we would have no internet no art no engineering no science

    A very grey world without them

    Name one


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