Frustrated with Turas Nua

TheAnalyst_ · 21-02-2018 06:35PM

Nah most decent people have more money in their pocket and they make up the majority. The dodgy left parties had their summer after the recession.

splinter65 · 21-02-2018 06:40PM

Ajsoprano wrote: »

I think Paul murphy and his buddies might do quite well this year.
I’d say Fianna Fáil will be the big winners or Sinn Fein.
Deflection of saying “you were in a war in the 80s and did bad things” or “you bankrupt the country” doesn’t work well when people can reply “you tried to smear a good man as a peado”

But sure maybe Maurice macabe didnt want to work either.

Anyhow that’s for another thread. On the bus home covered in glue and dust after a days work opposing jobbridge and all its new names.

You’d need to spend your time on the bus reading up a bit on leadership popularity polls so that you don’t embarrass yourself so badly making political predictions.

Ajsoprano · 21-02-2018 06:53PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Nah most decent people have more money in their pocket and they make up the majority. The dodgy left parties had their summer after the recession.

We don’t though we just have low paying jobs now. High rent. Homeless crisis. Fake statistics. Kids living with us until they are 40.

I earned a grand a week back when Fianna Fáil were in charge. Now I’m told I’m lucky to have a job.
My rent was 900 a month for a one bed in clontarf now I’m lucky to have a house.
I used to have confidence in the gardai now I’m afraid to go near them Incase I end up on the political radar.
I worry about a private company having control of my water.
I’m taxed up the jaysis.
If my job goes tomorrow I have to be abused as a car park attendant until I am eligible to be used as a 10000 employment scheme cash cow. Why would they give me a job over another lad when they can get a few quid for hiring another lad fresh out of the kick a dole scrounger scheme.

We have been kicked so long they threw us just enough to scrounge by and you call it a few extra quid in your pocket.

Let the boys that know how to raise all boats with a splash of water instead of the boys that want to drink the water all to themselves.

TheAnalyst_ · 21-02-2018 06:54PM

Whats the issue with the car park attendant? Someone had to the do the job so why not you?

Ajsoprano · 21-02-2018 07:01PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Whats the issue with the car park attendant? Someone had to the do the job so why not you?

It was a scheme in a local Astro pitch. Where I stood directing people to car park spots. Local people in my area knew I was out of work and being made do this.
The footballers knew where to park.
This job was dressed up as work experience. I’m a 35 year old plumber qualified since my early 20s but I had to stand there policing a car park with people who knew me laughing at me.
I needed to have car park attendant on my cv apparently.
I told jobs in interviews I was doing maintenance there because they would have laughed me out the door.

TheAnalyst_ · 21-02-2018 07:05PM

Car park attendant is a real job so I'm not so sure it was pointless busy work like you make out.

The shame is your own making. It is voluntary as well. You are not obliged to claim welfare and if you decide to then you have to abide by their conditions.

Ajsoprano · 21-02-2018 07:07PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Car park attendant is a real job so I'm not so sure it was pointless busy work like you make out.

The shame is your own making. It is voluntary as well. You are not obliged to claim welfare and if you decide to then you have to abide by their conditions.

I was obliged to have welfare. You can’t buy nappies with self respect

Ajsoprano · 21-02-2018 07:30PM

splinter65 wrote: »

You’d need to spend your time on the bus reading up a bit on leadership popularity polls so that you don’t embarrass yourself so badly making political predictions.

Polls eh remember trump? Brexit?
The polls didn’t see them coming.

tringle · 23-02-2018 03:37PM

Turas Nua are currently advertising for staff and trainers themselves through FRS recruitment. Read the employer reviews, not great.
I wonder will they be referring some of their own suitable clients to them.

Johnnycanyon · 23-02-2018 06:53PM

tringle wrote: »

Turas Nua are currently advertising for staff and trainers themselves through FRS recruitment. Read the employer reviews, not great.
I wonder will they be referring some of their own suitable clients to them.

Just had a look at it, one ex employee saying "very aggressive English people brought over to train them".. What sort of a country are we having to bring companies in from UK to run the likes of TN and the theory test centers to name just two.. But reading the reviews it proves one thing, they are only here for one thing and that is to bleed as much money as possible from the Idiots in the dept of social welfare with no real concern for the unemployed ... Sooner the better they are on their way back to Brit Land.

donegal_man · 23-02-2018 07:42PM

tringle wrote: »

Turas Nua are currently advertising for staff and trainers themselves through FRS recruitment. Read the employer reviews, not great.
I wonder will they be referring some of their own suitable clients to them.

Probably will given that Turas Nua is a private entity part owned by FRS Recruitment with an English company called Working Links which is in turn owned by investment company Aurelius.
As a complete aside, "FRS work for us" page features the smuggest looking young man I think I've ever seen.

Ajsoprano · 23-02-2018 08:10PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

How people can still think this scheme a good idea is beyond me. It's obvious at this stage they're nothing but leeches. I understand the desire to get people off welfare, but I'm completely baffled by the logic of giving a private company money to do so. Surely that completely defeats the purpose, i.e. saving the state money.

It's a racket to appease those who look down on people on the dole, nothing more.

Sure where will it stop. If they keep letting private companies in to look after the department of social protection will it become completely private in a few years?
It’s a vital service it should have nothing to do with private companies.
Look at the mess made out of the US prison service.
We are going down a dark road with these schemes.
The staff in the welfare office may be on tuas nua or their equivalent soon enough.
It’ll end up costing more but the department of spin will release figures that show civil service spending as down.

23-02-2018 08:13PM

Steve30x wrote: »

Its astonishing that Turas Nua and Seetec only got 18% of their clients jobs.

You should look into the facts as to why the live register has fallen so much since the introduction of Turas Nua and Seetec> The live register is going down because people are having their money Illegally taken off them because Turas Nua and Seetec are making false claims of non-engagement aganst people. There was a high court case brought against them on the 26th of January because of this. Turas Nua and Seetec along with the department of social protection brought in false evidence to tarnish these people in court and the court did not see through their false evidence. Then These two companies and the department of social Protectrion were forced to admit their evidence was falsified. When their evidence was found to be false they were then forced by the court to admit that a person can not be cut off their dole for not signing the Personal Progress Plan. The truth is that more people than ever before have been cut off their dole because of Turas Nua and Seetec because they are falsely making claims to the department of Social Protection about people.

Have you a link to that case, please?

brendanwalsh · 24-02-2018 09:09AM

Agree with aj. I have a 2.1 in a quant masters and a degree in financial maths and TN tried to get me to apply for a till assistant job in aldi. Anything for a bit of commission. They are a pack of *****.

tringle · 24-02-2018 02:13PM

I know we have heard here of people finding their own jobs while with Turas Nua but have they actually sourced a job for anyone here?

splinter65 · 24-02-2018 02:17PM

tringle wrote: »

I know we have heard here of people finding their own jobs while with Turas Nua but have they actually sourced a job for anyone here?

People who got jobs through TN wouldn’t be posting here.
This thread is exclusively for people who resent being told the conditions of their eligibility for Jobseekers and are furious that those conditions are now being enforced.

Ajsoprano · 24-02-2018 02:29PM

splinter65 wrote: »

People who got jobs through TN wouldn’t be posting here.
This thread is exclusively for people who resent being told the conditions of their eligibility for Jobseekers and are furious that those conditions are now being enforced.

They are being enforced by a private company.

TheAnalyst_ · 24-02-2018 05:10PM

Ajsoprano wrote: »

They are being enforced by a private company.

So? Do you go mental at having the do the NCT? Or applying for a driving licence because you are not dealing with a civil servant?

donegal_man · 24-02-2018 05:17PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

So? Do you go mental at having the do the NCT? Or applying for a driving licence because you are not dealing with a civil servant?

If the driving licence service was as ineffectual as Turas Nua then there'd be uproar and opposition parties queuing up to ask questions

Ajsoprano · 24-02-2018 05:18PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

So? Do you go mental at having the do the NCT? Or applying for a driving licence because you are not dealing with a civil servant?

If I brought a Ferrari into the nct centre and they told me I have to go use it to spread slurry because this was profitable for them I would have a problem with it.

24-02-2018 07:15PM

donegal_man wrote: »

If the driving licence service was as ineffectual as Turas Nua then there'd be uproar and opposition parties queuing up to ask questions

If Turas Nua are stopping the pussy footing around unemployed people, then I’m all for them. If someone can’t get a job in their chosen field, close to home, then they either lower their expectations or move.

splinter65 · 24-02-2018 07:33PM

Ajsoprano wrote: »

They are being enforced by a private company.

So what?

splinter65 · 24-02-2018 07:37PM

Ajsoprano wrote: »

If I brought a Ferrari into the nct centre and they told me I have to go use it to spread slurry because this was profitable for them I would have a problem with it.

That’s one of the worst analogies I’ve ever seen on boards.
If you can’t get a job in your chosen field yourself despite your qualifications and experience then tat doesn’t excuse you from any other areas. Of course you don’t have to sign on if you don’t want to and then you can continue searching for just the right job for you , year after year, only at your own expense .

TheAnalyst_ · 24-02-2018 08:03PM

Ajsoprano wrote: »

If I brought a Ferrari into the nct centre and they told me I have to go use it to spread slurry because this was profitable for them I would have a problem with it.

The problem is that the clients of Seetec think they're all ferarris and too good for spreading ****e. If someone thinks they're so skilled and experienced then just get a job in your field. If you can't then maybe you're not so great.

Ajsoprano · 24-02-2018 09:11PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

The problem is that the clients of Seetec think they're all ferarris and too good for spreading ****e. If someone thinks they're so skilled and experienced then just get a job in your field. If you can't then maybe you're not so great.

Tax is paid for such moments not to give it to private companies to badger you if you lose your job.
I couldn’t get work in a shop or call centre because they knew as soon as I could I’d be back plumbing. I now pay 200 euro some weeks in tax. Not including vat.
Millions upon millions will paid to private companies from it to harass me or my friends and neighbours if they lose their jobs.

TheAnalyst_ · 24-02-2018 09:57PM

Ajsoprano wrote: »

Tax is paid for such moments not to give it to private companies to badger you if you lose your job.
I couldn’t get work in a shop or call centre because they knew as soon as I could I’d be back plumbing. I now pay 200 euro some weeks in tax. Not including vat.
Millions upon millions will paid to private companies from it to harass me or my friends and neighbours if they lose their jobs.

Harassment really? You attend a few meetings now and then. Its not like people have no time for this.

Ajsoprano · 24-02-2018 09:58PM

TheAnalyst_ wrote: »

Harassment really? You attend a few meetings now and then. Its not like people have no time for this.

Have you been involved with them as a customer?

dhaughton99 · 24-02-2018 10:42PM

Johnnycanyon wrote: »

Just had a look at it, one ex employee saying "very aggressive English people brought over to train them".. What sort of a country are we having to bring companies in from UK to run the likes of TN and the theory test centers to name just two.. But reading the reviews it proves one thing, they are only here for one thing and that is to bleed as much money as possible from the Idiots in the dept of social welfare with no real concern for the unemployed ... Sooner the better they are on their way back to Brit Land.

From dealing with Seetec, i always get the impression that the employees would be knocking at your door at 6:30 in the evening trying to sign you up to Eir or Prepay Power if they weren’t working there. No real skills. Just follow a script and hope for something better in the future.

Johnnycanyon · 24-02-2018 11:13PM

splinter65 wrote: »

People who got jobs through TN wouldn’t be posting here.
This thread is exclusively for people who resent being told the conditions of their eligibility for Jobseekers and are furious that those conditions are now being enforced.

The conditions are that people are looking for and fit and able to work... What I resent is being told by some young one how to look for a job, after working in numerous jobs in Ireland , UK and Europe
over the last 42 years.. I have recently got a new job, all by my little self and these parasites are foaming at the mouth looking for the details of my employer so as they can claim more money from the government and harass me and my employer.But it is not going to happen as I have no phone and no email so am uncontactable ðŸ˜‰

donegal_man · 25-02-2018 02:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

If Turas Nua are stopping the pussy footing around unemployed people, then I’m all for them. If someone can’t get a job in their chosen field, close to home, then they either lower their expectations or move.

The company in question has an an 18% success rate placing people in work. What I'd like to see is a cost benefit analysis of their performance.

Frustrated with Turas Nua

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