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Richard Nixons Legacy

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  • 21-02-2018 10:01pm
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    thesultan
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    Anyone know how he is judged in America? ? Is it all watergate that has tarnished him?


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    Jack Kanoff
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    I think it was the fact he shot Kennedy is what really grinds people's gears


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    Hande hoche!
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    Wrapping up the Vietnam war, his trip to China and the EPA being founded under his watch. Some of the positives. A lot more negatives...


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    Beasty
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    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    the EPA being founded under his watch. Some of the positives.
    Don't forget the UEFA Cup was introduced in '71 also....


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    Hande hoche!
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    Beasty wrote: »
    Don't forget the UEFA Cup was introduced in '71 also....
    Dick was more a bowling man...


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    In the fall of 1972 President Nixon announced that the rate of increase of inflation was decreasing. This was the first time a sitting president used the third derivative to advance his case for reelection.


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    Beasty
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    Hande hoche! wrote: »
    Dick was more a bowling man...
    Didn't he install a Crown Green at Camp David?


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    Atoms for Peace
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    He colluded with south Vietnam before his election to scupper peace talks and influence the voting.


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    super_furry
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    He's a head in a jar on Futurama.


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    thesultan
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    You were watching the Vietnam documentary I see.


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    riffmongous
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    The man never drank a Duff in his life


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    Chev_Chelios
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    He lives on in Futurama, so he has that going for him.


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    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Was he a crook ?


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    Atoms for Peace
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    thesultan wrote: »
    You were watching the Vietnam documentary I see.

    Another great documentary from Ken Burns, both sides knew the war was absolute bollocks from the beginning but Nixon actions were lower again.


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    Greybottle
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    One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

    "I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."


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    darkdubh
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    Which is the better film, Frost/Nixon or Nixon/Elvis?


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    FrKurtFahrt
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    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    He colluded with south Vietnam before his election to scupper peace talks and influence the voting.

    I didn't see the documentary mentioned. Can you explain the above briefly, please/ Thanks


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    riffmongous
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    Greybottle wrote: »
    One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

    "I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."

    I'm sure that was, most likely, a facetious remark


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    thesultan
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    FrKurtFahrt wrote: »
    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    He colluded with south Vietnam before his election to scupper peace talks and influence the voting.

    I didn't see the documentary mentioned. Can you explain the above briefly, please/ Thanks
    Correct me on this Nixons rival was all about stopping the war. Nixon got word out to the south to stop peace arrangements so that his rivals mantra was in tatters.


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    thesultan
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    Has many presidents phone conversations being released? ?


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    odyssey06
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    If people remember him at all.. it is some combination of...

    Only Nixon could go to China...

    Tricky Dicky...

    Watergate...

    End game in Vietnam...

    Queuing for gasoline...

    Calamitous TV debate v JFK in 1960.
    Coming back from political death to victory in 1968 and then landslide in 1972.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    Birneybau
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    If people remember him at all.. it is some combination of...

    Only Nixon could go to China...

    Tricky Dicky...

    Watergate...

    End game in Vietnam...

    Queuing for gasoline...

    Calamitous TV debate v JFK in 1960.
    Coming back from political death to victory in 1968 and then landslide in 1972.

    And head in jar


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    odyssey06
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    Birneybau wrote: »
    And head in jar

    Nixon is pro war and pro family!

    And yeah his legacy is also a vivid character in Futurama 😈

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    odyssey06
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    Without Watergate and term limits he would have beaten Carter in a landslide in 1976...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    odyssey06
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    Actually I almost forgot he authorised the subsudies that have caused the presnt epidemic of fructose corn syrup... I can forgive Watergate. I cant forgive that.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    Cheerful Spring
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    Wait did you hear the latest conspiracy about Nixon? If people want to know let me know or i just keep it to myself to not derail the thread!


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    Tuco88
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    He likes charlston chew... HaaaRooo.


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    weldoninhio
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    Greybottle wrote: »
    One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

    "I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."

    That was Lyndon B Johnson who wanted to spread rumours of an opponent having relations with farmyard animals.


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    weldoninhio
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    darkdubh wrote: »
    Which is the better film, Frost/Nixon or Nixon/Elvis?

    Both are enjoyable. But I thought Frost/Nixon was a brilliant film.


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    Beasty
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    Without him the world would never have had all these gates


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    Are Am Eye
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    thesultan wrote: »
    Has many presidents phone conversations being released? ?

    If I'm not mistaken he taped his own phone conversations.
    He had a very big set of jowls.
    He wrote ten best sellers - political stuff.


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