Richard Nixons Legacy

thesultan

Anyone know how he is judged in America? ? Is it all watergate that has tarnished him?

Jack Kanoff

I think it was the fact he shot Kennedy is what really grinds people's gears

Hande hoche!

Wrapping up the Vietnam war, his trip to China and the EPA being founded under his watch. Some of the positives. A lot more negatives...

Beasty

Hande hoche! wrote: »

the EPA being founded under his watch. Some of the positives.

Don't forget the UEFA Cup was introduced in '71 also....

Hande hoche!

Beasty wrote: »

Don't forget the UEFA Cup was introduced in '71 also....

Dick was more a bowling man...

Capt'n Midnight

In the fall of 1972 President Nixon announced that the rate of increase of inflation was decreasing. This was the first time a sitting president used the third derivative to advance his case for reelection.

Beasty

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Dick was more a bowling man...

Didn't he install a Crown Green at Camp David?

Atoms for Peace

He colluded with south Vietnam before his election to scupper peace talks and influence the voting.

super_furry

He's a head in a jar on Futurama.

thesultan

You were watching the Vietnam documentary I see.

riffmongous

The man never drank a Duff in his life

Chev_Chelios

He lives on in Futurama, so he has that going for him.

The Rape of Lucretia

Was he a crook ?

Atoms for Peace

thesultan wrote: »

You were watching the Vietnam documentary I see.

Another great documentary from Ken Burns, both sides knew the war was absolute bollocks from the beginning but Nixon actions were lower again.

Greybottle

One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

"I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."

darkdubh

Which is the better film, Frost/Nixon or Nixon/Elvis?

FrKurtFahrt

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

He colluded with south Vietnam before his election to scupper peace talks and influence the voting.

I didn't see the documentary mentioned. Can you explain the above briefly, please/ Thanks

riffmongous

Greybottle wrote: »

One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

"I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."

I'm sure that was, most likely, a facetious remark

thesultan

FrKurtFahrt wrote: »

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

He colluded with south Vietnam before his election to scupper peace talks and influence the voting.

I didn't see the documentary mentioned. Can you explain the above briefly, please/ Thanks

Correct me on this Nixons rival was all about stopping the war. Nixon got word out to the south to stop peace arrangements so that his rivals mantra was in tatters.

thesultan

Has many presidents phone conversations being released? ?

odyssey06

If people remember him at all.. it is some combination of...

Only Nixon could go to China...

Tricky Dicky...

Watergate...

End game in Vietnam...

Queuing for gasoline...

Calamitous TV debate v JFK in 1960.
Coming back from political death to victory in 1968 and then landslide in 1972.

Birneybau

odyssey06 wrote: »

If people remember him at all.. it is some combination of...

Only Nixon could go to China...

Tricky Dicky...

Watergate...

End game in Vietnam...

Queuing for gasoline...

Calamitous TV debate v JFK in 1960.
Coming back from political death to victory in 1968 and then landslide in 1972.

And head in jar

odyssey06

Birneybau wrote: »

And head in jar

Nixon is pro war and pro family!

And yeah his legacy is also a vivid character in Futurama 😈

odyssey06

Without Watergate and term limits he would have beaten Carter in a landslide in 1976...

odyssey06

Actually I almost forgot he authorised the subsudies that have caused the presnt epidemic of fructose corn syrup... I can forgive Watergate. I cant forgive that.

Cheerful Spring

Wait did you hear the latest conspiracy about Nixon? If people want to know let me know or i just keep it to myself to not derail the thread!

Tuco88

He likes charlston chew... HaaaRooo.

weldoninhio

Greybottle wrote: »

One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

"I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."

That was Lyndon B Johnson who wanted to spread rumours of an opponent having relations with farmyard animals.

weldoninhio

darkdubh wrote: »

Which is the better film, Frost/Nixon or Nixon/Elvis?

Both are enjoyable. But I thought Frost/Nixon was a brilliant film.

Beasty

Without him the world would never have had all these gates

Are Am Eye

thesultan wrote: »

Has many presidents phone conversations being released? ?

If I'm not mistaken he taped his own phone conversations.
He had a very big set of jowls.
He wrote ten best sellers - political stuff.

Jimbob1977

He gave us the name 'Milhouse'.

Is this how it feels when the doves cry?

Duckworth_Luas

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

He gave us the name 'Milhouse'.

Is this how it feels when the doves cry?

Milhouse was his Mother's maiden name whose family were Quakers who emigrated from Co Kildare.

Nixon visited Ireland in 1970 and went to their old church.

With regard to the Nixon V Kennedy debate. Apparently radio listeners almost all regarded Nixon as having won. The television viewers were swayed by seeing a very uncomfortable and sweating Nixon and regarded John F as having won.

Greybottle

odyssey06 wrote: »

Without Watergate and term limits he would have beaten Carter in a landslide in 1976...

Nope. He was on his second and final term when he resigned.

weldoninhio

Greybottle wrote: »

Nope. He was on his second and final term when he resigned.

I’d imagine why the poster specified “without term limits”.

Atoms for Peace

The man never drank a Duff in his life.

nacho libre

darkdubh wrote: »

Which is the better film, Frost/Nixon or Nixon/Elvis?

That's a tough question. I enjoyed them both. It's a bit of a taboo to praise Spacey these days, but i thought he portrayed Nixon very well.

mikemac2

Greybottle wrote: »

One of the best political quotes of all time is attributed to him; he told his handlers to spread a statement about an opponent around. When his handler pointed out that it was a lie he said:

"I know it's a lie, I just want to see the fcukers deny it."

That was Lyndon Johnson

Peregrinus

odyssey06 wrote: »

Without Watergate and term limits he would have beaten Carter in a landslide in 1976...

Never mind term limits. Without Watergate it's unlikely that the Democrats would have nominated Carter in 1976 so, if Nixon could have run and had chosen to do so, he would probably have been facing a different opponent.

pleas advice

Beasty wrote: »

Without him the world would never have had all these gates

...boss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB9JgxhXW5w

Are Am Eye

Are Am Eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yro4GFQ7O5Q

Badly Drunk Boy

thesultan wrote: »

Anyone know how he is judged in America? ? Is it all watergate that has tarnished him?

Well, he doesn't quite make the worst 10 US presidents, according to this survey of political scientists. There was a thread about it the other day...

Hande hoche!

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Wait did you hear the latest conspiracy about Nixon? If people want to know let me know or i just keep it to myself to not derail the thread!

Don't be a tease. Please tell...