Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

FACECUTTR · 20-02-2018 01:34AM

Peregrine wrote: »

Is the skinny guy the 8 and the guy in the wheelchair the 10?

Ya sure he looks just like Johnny Wilkinson used to as he lined up his kicks !

mfceiling · 20-02-2018 01:39PM

Neil Best on twitter talking about some former player coming into the set up next year but he's not letting much away??

irishfan9 · 20-02-2018 01:44PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Neil Best on twitter talking about some former player coming into the set up next year but he's not letting much away??

Justin Harrison?

Burkie1203 · 20-02-2018 01:48PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Neil Best on twitter talking about some former player coming into the set up next year but he's not letting much away??

Allan Clarke and Neil Doak????

Bazzo · 20-02-2018 01:54PM

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Allan Clarke and Neil Doak????

I would pay good money to see awec's face

MJohnston · 20-02-2018 01:56PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Justin Harrison?

Probably: https://twitter.com/Best6Analysis/status/965514714330513408

stephen_n · 20-02-2018 02:04PM

It’s the under Gibbes bit that’s most interesting there. That would suggest Gibbes will still be there and in charge.

Former Former · 20-02-2018 02:07PM

mfceiling wrote: »

Neil Best on twitter talking about some former player coming into the set up next year but he's not letting much away??

Like all true greats, Neil Best is talking about himself in the third person.

bilston · 20-02-2018 02:10PM

Where is Harrison these days?

You'd think that Harrison and Gibbes would be pretty good at bringing a bit of nastiness to the pack.

bilston · 20-02-2018 02:12PM

stephen_n wrote: »

It’s the under Gibbes bit that’s most interesting there. That would suggest Gibbes will still be there and in charge.

Head honcho at Ulster or assistant with Australia?

My guess is Ulster would pay him more as head coach/DoR which may swing it for him. But he'd need to believe in 'the project'. I'm just not convinced we will have a squad of players to compete next year, but in theory we could be competitive next year if certain things go our way.

We've made two good signings in Moore and Murphy and I honestly think Dalton is going to develop into a serious operator for us. I imagine there is a big NIQ signing to be made as well, and if Gibbes is really lucky he could have a squad with Coetzee, Payne, Jackson and Olding. That's the best case scenario but the chances of all of that happening are pretty slim.

irishbucsfan · 20-02-2018 02:58PM

Michael Heaney has signed for Worcester

stephen_n · 20-02-2018 06:46PM

bilston wrote: »

Head honcho at Ulster or assistant with Australia?

My guess is Ulster would pay him more as head coach/DoR which may swing it for him. But he'd need to believe in 'the project'. I'm just not convinced we will have a squad of players to compete next year, but in theory we could be competitive next year if certain things go our way.

We've made two good signings in Moore and Murphy and I honestly think Dalton is going to develop into a serious operator for us. I imagine there is a big NIQ signing to be made as well, and if Gibbes is really lucky he could have a squad with Coetzee, Payne, Jackson and Olding. That's the best case scenario but the chances of all of that happening are pretty slim.

There is still the issue though, that by all accounts Gibbes doesn’t want to be a head coach yet. Mind you that could well just be rumour.

bilston · 20-02-2018 07:00PM

stephen_n wrote: »

bilston wrote: »

Head honcho at Ulster or assistant with Australia?

My guess is Ulster would pay him more as head coach/DoR which may swing it for him. But he'd need to believe in 'the project'. I'm just not convinced we will have a squad of players to compete next year, but in theory we could be competitive next year if certain things go our way.

We've made two good signings in Moore and Murphy and I honestly think Dalton is going to develop into a serious operator for us. I imagine there is a big NIQ signing to be made as well, and if Gibbes is really lucky he could have a squad with Coetzee, Payne, Jackson and Olding. That's the best case scenario but the chances of all of that happening are pretty slim.

There is still the issue though, that by all accounts Gibbes doesn’t want to be a head coach yet. Mind you that could well just be rumour.

Yeah, I've read that. If that's the case then he won't stay. The choice between assistant at Ulster or assistant of Australia is fairly straightforward.

stephen_n · 20-02-2018 07:29PM

bilston wrote: »

Yeah, I've read that. If that's the case then he won't stay. The choice between assistant at Ulster or assistant of Australia is fairly straightforward.

If Ulster can attract a decent DOR, he might stay. Depends on how he feels about Ulsters chances of improving under a new DOR are.

Scythica · 21-02-2018 07:14AM

Wonder if Muller has finally decided to come back as fwds coach - there was rumours about that a long time ago.
Wonder if we could ever tempt Plumtree over!

irishfan9 · 21-02-2018 07:51AM

Scythica wrote: »

Wonder if Muller has finally decided to come back as fwds coach - there was rumours about that a long time ago.
Wonder if we could ever tempt Plumtree over!

both are clearly not happening.

21-02-2018 10:47AM

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/966255548004995072?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E2

Utah_Saint · 21-02-2018 10:57AM

connemara man wrote: »

https://twitter.com/UlsterRugby/status/966255548004995072?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E2

Is two years standard for someone of his age and profile?
Would have liked an extra year on that....but positive news anyway.

Buer · 21-02-2018 10:58AM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Is two years standard for someone of his age and profile?
Would have liked an extra year on that....but positive news anyway.

If you were Stockdale, would you sign for 3 years?

irishbucsfan · 21-02-2018 10:59AM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Is two years standard for someone of his age and profile?
Would have liked an extra year on that....but positive news anyway.

I would say it's fairly standard yes, he'd probably want to renegotiate again in a couple of years because his value could conceivably skyrocket between now and then, especially if he's started at a world cup.

Former Former · 21-02-2018 11:00AM

Buer wrote: »

If you were Stockdale, would you sign with Ulster for 3 years?

FYP

bilston · 21-02-2018 11:01AM

Was his contract even up at the end of this season? I don't recall his name ever being on a list of players we needed to re-sign.

Great news anyway.

Two years is fine anyway as you'd think that by the time he is 23/24 (when this new contract ends) he'd be nailed on for a central contract so he'd probably get a big bump.

shaungil · 21-02-2018 06:06PM

Googles Justin Harirson stuff about cocaine abuse comes up. Would have thought that drugs and potential illegality are the 2 things the IRFU would be running mile from at the moment. Muller would be brilliant v highly thought of. For me I think someone like Cheika and what he did with Leinster back in the day would be a great option. Take no rubbish and get back to basics.

irishfan9 · 21-02-2018 06:19PM

shaungil wrote: »

Googles Justin Harirson stuff about cocaine abuse comes up. Would have thought that drugs and potential illegality are the 2 things the IRFU would be running mile from at the moment. Muller would be brilliant v highly thought of. For me I think someone like Cheika and what he did with Leinster back in the day would be a great option. Take no rubbish and get back to basics.

Cheika is busy

bilston · 21-02-2018 06:20PM

shaungil wrote: »

Googles Justin Harirson stuff about cocaine abuse comes up. Would have thought that drugs and potential illegality are the 2 things the IRFU would be running mile from at the moment. Muller would be brilliant v highly thought of. For me I think someone like Cheika and what he did with Leinster back in the day would be a great option. Take no rubbish and get back to basics.

Yeah I'd be surprised if we made a move for Harrison. Maybe Neil Best meant #JM rather than #JH.

Muller makes a lot more sense from an Ulster POV.

mfceiling · 21-02-2018 08:38PM

Listening to an interview with Payne earlier and he talks about being almost ready to come back and then it's off again. This has been going on a hell of a long time....almost a full season out now. He says he's giving it another month to see how he is then. I'm guessing his career is finished?

MJohnston · 21-02-2018 10:13PM

shaungil wrote: »

Googles Justin Harirson stuff about cocaine abuse comes up. Would have thought that drugs and potential illegality are the 2 things the IRFU would be running mile from at the moment. Muller would be brilliant v highly thought of. For me I think someone like Cheika and what he did with Leinster back in the day would be a great option. Take no rubbish and get back to basics.

I think for a lot of people there's a big difference between a recreational drugs issue and a performance enhancing one. I don't know much about Harrison otherwise tbh but it seems like he's put that in the past.

Scythica · 22-02-2018 06:55AM

I see bakebook has some rumblings of Jim Hamilton saying it's him to some fans in Edinburgh

Sinbad_NI · 22-02-2018 07:49PM

MJohnston wrote:

I think for a lot of people there's a big difference between a recreational drugs issue and a performance enhancing one. I don't know much about Harrison otherwise tbh but it seems like he's put that in the past.

Others would say that's a common excuse that's trotted out when guys get caught.... "but I only did it this once".. " and only for a laugh"... rriiiggghhhttt.
My opinion is that's it's so well documented how easy it is to pass drug tests that anyone who's caught is either very unlucky or stupid.

MJohnston · 22-02-2018 08:07PM

Sinbad_NI wrote: »

Others would say that's a common excuse that's trotted out when guys get caught.... "but I only did it this once".. " and only for a laugh"... rriiiggghhhttt.
My opinion is that's it's so well documented how easy it is to pass drug tests that anyone who's caught is either very unlucky or stupid.

To be honest, personally I wouldn't really care much about someone in charge at Ulster using certain drugs recreationally. Maybe we need a good infusion of 1980's Wall Street trader attitude...:pac:

Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

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