Do people's parents still get thick about eating meat on Ash Wed/Good Friday?

pleas advice · 20-02-2018 02:23AM

eviltwin wrote: »

I'm an adult. Who gives a fcuk what my parent thinks?

yeah ma, I'm nearly 26 you know, you still treat me like I was...24!!

Sleepy · 20-02-2018 11:19AM

splinter65 wrote: »

That article isn’t marketing, it’s an article in a reputable newspaper.

LOL, the indo a reputable newspaper? It's a tabloid rag that happens to print some of it's run in broadsheet format.

Your not facing facts. If you’ve no explanation as to how our our citizens are amongst the best educated in the world of free education despite what you describe as the handicap of being under the all embracing umbrella of the Roman Catholic Church then we will have to agree that it is a miracle a la the Loaves and the Fishes, Matthew 15 :32-39.
God bless. Splinter65.

iguana already used the facts to counter your argument.

You picked an odd "miracle" to support your argument btw since even most priests I've met would say that the story of then Loaves and the Fishes was less about Jesus magically making more food but more a morality tale about how two people sharing all they had could encourage others to do so...

Even if one were to disagree with that interpretation of the story, however, it's still, at best, just an anecdote or, at worst, a fairy-tale. Not exactly equivalent to facts.

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 11:44AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Would penguins be classed as cold blooded ?

Sure you can't live in a cold climate and be cold-blooded. You'd solidify and shatter.

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 11:52AM

mcmoustache wrote: »

I'm a bit confused as to where I appear frustrated. Unless of course you're choosing to believe things that aren't true to make yourself feel better.

Anyway, I feel we're straying from the point here. If you can't eat meat today but can eat the flesh of Christ and drink his blood, that would imply that He is a fish or a vegetable or something.

He's mutton. Lamb of God.

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 12:10PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Best tea ever. 2 slices of Brennans white sliced pan and a hot mug of tea
Food of Gods .

Don't let your god hear you talk about his competitors.

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 12:15PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes. Observing a religious tradition is a fairly normal practice for literally billions of people across the world, and across many religions.
Imagining as a grown man or woman that youre somehow one of the cool kids, and better, that youre socking it to “the man” because you don’t observe any religious tradition is actually very funny.

But you yourself said that all those billions are wrong.

whisky_galore · 20-02-2018 12:24PM

Omackeral wrote: »

We've hundreds of thousands of Irish speakers according to the all reliable, totally accurate census.

Many people think knowing a few random words in Irish and asking permission to use the toilet qualifies them as an 'Irish speaker'.

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 12:25PM

splinter65 wrote: »

So...it’s not the “church” lying on census forms it’s “Irish mammys” (I’d forgotten that all census forms can only be completed by an Irish mammy) and everyone else who ticked Catholic is actually a Protestant in total denial...78%+ of the population all either in denial or just lying, but you can’t tell us why.....hmmm....let me think about that.
If I went to live in a country where more or less all the schools are owned and were built on land owned by Islam bought with money raised by Islam and run by Islam in a place where 78%+ of citizens identify as Muslims on the national census then I’d be pretty astonished if there wasn’t plenty of Islamic indoctrination going on at school because only an idiot would expect otherwise.

What a non-answer.

lazygal · 20-02-2018 12:29PM

I'm an Irish mammy raising children religion free. They get a bit of information about some religious sects in school through the learn together programme but otherwise we're a non religious family.
My own parents couldn't care less about religion since all the scandals came back, and even before then they were totally a la carte catholics. They used contraception, lived together before marriage and I'm pretty sure neither of them really believed in god.

o1s1n · 20-02-2018 12:40PM

Ephraim Miniature Dust wrote: »

It's surprising, with all the indoctrination that went on through the years, that so many people seem to still be able to make their own minds up about their religious affiliations. Obviously the education system doesn't indoctrinate as strongly as the complainants would have us believe.

Different people are susceptible on different levels. What indoctrinates you might not indoctrinate me, and vice versa.

Indoctrinated people rarely will ever admit they have been indoctrinated. I don't know if you've ever tried to reason with someone in a high control cult, but half the battle is trying to get them to think rationally and not even hint at them being indoctrinated. The moment they even sniff that they batten down the hatches, the walls go up and they view it as a personal attack.

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 12:58PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Don't let your god hear you talk about his competitors.

Not at all. My God loves a Brennan’s sliced pan himself!

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 01:03PM

Chrongen wrote: »

What a non-answer.

You can’t think of any argument to put to my answer so you decide, not to leave it, but to label it a “non-answer”.
Fair enough, we’ll just agree that I’m right.

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 01:07PM

Chrongen wrote: »

But you yourself said that all those billions are wrong.

Sorry ,Chrongen, you’ll have to point out to me where I said it was wrong that billions of people are “wrong” to have a religious belief? It is a simple fact that billions of people have a religious belief. It cannot be either right or wrong. It is a fact. Argue that fact with me. Go on.

Greentopia · 20-02-2018 01:08PM

Both parents deceased but my Mum would have stuck to eating fish on a Friday. She didn't care what I ate so long as it was nourishing.

20-02-2018 01:08PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Many people think knowing a few random words in Irish and asking permission to use the toilet qualifies them as an 'Irish speaker'.

I know, that was very much tongue in cheek!

20-02-2018 01:12PM

splinter65 wrote: »

we’ll just agree that I’m right.

Religion in a nutshell. Blind belief aka faith.

It's a god damn (pun intended) lottery what religion you are mostly. If you were born 100 miles up the road you could be Protestant. If you were born in the Middle East you'd be Muslim. If you were born in India you'd probably be Sikh or Hindu. Everyone thinks they're right. Why are the 1.3 billion followers wrong and you're not?

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 01:21PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Religion in a nutshell. Blind belief aka faith.

It's a god damn (pun intended) lottery what religion you are mostly. If you were born 100 miles up the road you could be Protestant. If you were born in the Middle East you'd be Muslim. If you were born in India you'd probably be Sikh or Hindu. Everyone thinks they're right. Why are the 1.3 billion followers wrong and you're not?

Yep that’s religion, blind faith, nobody said it wasn’t? But Catholicism is the biggest by far, over 1 billion.
Tell us omackeral, are we ALL crazy?!?

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 01:21PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Sorry ,Chrongen, you’ll have to point out to me where I said it was wrong that billions of people are “wrong” to have a religious belief? It is a simple fact that billions of people have a religious belief. It cannot be either right or wrong. It is a fact. Argue that fact with me. Go on.

Well, you said that your religion was the one true faith. That must mean that all the other, in your opinion, are wrong.

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 01:26PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Well, you said that your religion was the one true faith. That must mean that all the other, in your opinion, are wrong.

Yes over 1 billion of us believe that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary died on Good Friday and rose from the dead on Easter Sunday . 1 billion. Take that in. The other faiths are wrong. They are not wrong to have faith. It is a fact, wether you like it or not that they have faith, but Catholiscm is the one true faith.
Now you tell me that it’s not and why. Go on.

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 01:36PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes over 1 billion of us believe that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary died on Good Friday and rose from the dead on Easter Sunday . 1 billion. Take that in. The other faiths are wrong. They are not wrong to have faith. It is a fact, wether you like it or not that they have faith, but Catholiscm is the one true faith.
Now you tell me that it’s not and why. Go on.

The one true faith? It's only the one true faith if you say it is.

A billion people might believe Jonah lived in a whale and as a result their's is the only true faith.

Is it a matter of numbers or what story / fairytale you believe that determines what faith/cult has the right end of the stick and everyone else is wrong?

Greentopia · 20-02-2018 02:28PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes over 1 billion of us believe that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary died on Good Friday and rose from the dead on Easter Sunday . 1 billion. Take that in.

Logical fallacy-Argumentum ad populum.

Greentopia · 20-02-2018 02:36PM

Chrongen wrote: »

The one true faith? It's only the one true faith if you say it is.

A billion people might believe Jonah lived in a whale and as a result their's is the only true faith.

Is it a matter of numbers or what story / fairytale you believe that determines what faith/cult has the right end of the stick and everyone else is wrong?

If he was born in the Middle East he'd likely have been born a Muslim and saying his religion was the one true one and all others are infidels. If he was born in Israel he'd likely be a Jew and thinking his religion was the one true one. You get the picture. One of the reasons all religion is a man made sham.

And if his logic is so weak that he's doing the numbers game and "my religion is the biggest so it must be true"-which is as I said a logical fallacy anyway, Muslims have 1.8 billion adherents

Chrongen · 20-02-2018 02:44PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Yes over 1 billion of us believe that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary died on Good Friday and rose from the dead on Easter Sunday . 1 billion. Take that in. The other faiths are wrong. They are not wrong to have faith. It is a fact, wether you like it or not that they have faith, but Catholiscm is the one true faith.
Now you tell me that it’s not and why. Go on.

Well if 1 billion believe that silly tale, that must mean that 5 billion DON'T believe it. Take that in, bud.

Why are 1 billion right and 5 billion wrong?

jca · 20-02-2018 02:49PM

Seriously? What a ridiculous thread. Keep all the Mammies boys and girls happy I suppose...

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 03:09PM

Chrongen wrote: »

The one true faith? It's only the one true faith if you say it is.

A billion people might believe Jonah lived in a whale and as a result their's is the only true faith.

Is it a matter of numbers or what story / fairytale you believe that determines what faith/cult has the right end of the stick and everyone else is wrong?

If I think it’s the one true faith then it’s the one true faith for me. I’m not telling you that you have to believe what I believe.
You seem to be permanently upset that so many other humans do have a faith or belief. Why is that? Do you ever ask yourself why you don’t just get on with your own life and let other people get on with theirs?
If I have no argument with any other faith then what is the problem exactly? You are saying that 1 billion+ people are all wrong and you are right.
You can believe that if you wish. No one is arguing with you. You can’t force an entire species to go against human nature and deny the wonder of the world and the universe. For some strange reason the vast majority of our species believe that there is some higher power then ourselves. If your goal is to somehow over ride that by using flippant mildly insulting but ultimately harmless comments then I wish you luck.
Now your going to tell me how oppressed you are by the suffocating presence of RCC in our schools and hospitals but if I ask you how your education or health has been compromised by this then it all gets a little bit vague.
You need to get on with living chrongen, travel a bit and most of all live and let live without acting on the persistent need you seem to have to point st others and tell them how wrong you think they are.
It could get you into a lot of **** in a country less tolerant than here.

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 03:11PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Well if 1 billion believe that silly tale, that must mean that 5 billion DON'T believe it. Take that in, bud.

Why are 1 billion right and 5 billion wrong?

But (exhausted now) most of the other 5 billion also believe in something you don’t believe in either, so are you going to argue with all of us?

jca · 20-02-2018 09:16PM

splinter65 wrote: »

If I think it’s the one true faith then it’s the one true faith for me. I’m not telling you that you have to believe what I believe.
You seem to be permanently upset that so many other humans do have a faith or belief. Why is that? Do you ever ask yourself why you don’t just get on with your own life and let other people get on with theirs?
If I have no argument with any other faith then what is the problem exactly? You are saying that 1 billion+ people are all wrong and you are right.
You can believe that if you wish. No one is arguing with you. You can’t force an entire species to go against human nature and deny the wonder of the world and the universe. For some strange reason the vast majority of our species believe that there is some higher power then ourselves. If your goal is to somehow over ride that by using flippant mildly insulting but ultimately harmless comments then I wish you luck.
Now your going to tell me how oppressed you are by the suffocating presence of RCC in our schools and hospitals but if I ask you how your education or health has been compromised by this then it all gets a little bit vague.
You need to get on with living chrongen, travel a bit and most of all live and let live without acting on the persistent need you seem to have to point st others and tell them how wrong you think they are.
It could get you into a lot of **** in a country less tolerant than here.

Sooo mammy doesn't let you eat meat on a Friday I presume.

housetypeb · 20-02-2018 09:32PM

splinter65 wrote: »

... You can’t force an entire species to go against human nature and deny the wonder of the world and the universe...

Do you actually think atheists don't appreciate the wonders of the world and the universe?

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 09:39PM

jca wrote: »

Sooo mammy doesn't let you eat meat on a Friday I presume.

Sooooo my mammy is dead. How is yours?

splinter65 · 20-02-2018 09:40PM

housetypeb wrote: »

Do you actually think atheists don't appreciate the wonders of the world and the universe?

Yes they do but they jump through exhausting mental hoops to convince themselves that that it all just happened through some wondrous series of extraordinary coincidences.

Do people's parents still get thick about eating meat on Ash Wed/Good Friday?

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