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  • #782
    Nocrac
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Nocrac


    Pre-selection for PO Higher starts tomorrow - online video interview.


  • #783
    ShellyMCD
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭ShellyMCD


    Nocrac wrote: »
    Pre-selection for PO Higher starts tomorrow - online video interview.

    A video interview was used to shortlist for the AP higher early this year as well.


  • #784
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    The panle has started just 1 person placed

    around 5 have gone off panel as Counsellor

    around 80 made the panel - so quite a high failure rate given around 200 were called to assessment


  • #785
    Xofpod
    Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Xofpod


    Riskymove wrote: »
    The panle has started just 1 person placed

    around 5 have gone off panel as Counsellor

    around 80 made the panel - so quite a high failure rate given around 200 were called to assessment

    How do people assess the odds of them calling a second batch for interview/assessment centre? Are they likely to work through a panel of 80 in its lifetime? I believe they got up to about 120 in the previous panel.


  • #786
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Xofpod wrote: »
    How do people assess the odds of them calling a second batch for interview/assessment centre? Are they likely to work through a panel of 80 in its lifetime? I believe they got up to about 120 in the previous panel.

    no idea but it seems unlikely in short term


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  • #787
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Latest from Union
    Principal Officer Competitions
    2017 Open PO Panel:
    A panel of 78 is effective since 21st November 2017. One person has been placed. The Association has informed DPER that it is desirable that a closure date is specified for future competitions. There is no closure date specified for the current panel. DPER advises that such panels usually exist for in or around a two-year period. There were 1639 applicants for the competition with only 9% of successful candidates from the private sector.



  • #788
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    a handful of people now assigned

    I appreciate with only 78 on panel that there may be only a few of us on Boards but any updates or news is appreciated


  • #789
    Maybenever
    Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Maybenever


    Very much so, made the panel but lower down the order.


  • #790
    CalvinBalti
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭CalvinBalti


    Riskymove wrote: »
    Latest from Union

    Does that mean 9% of the 80 are external (about 7 people from outside made it)? Or am I reading this wrong?


  • #791
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    CalvinBalti wrote: »
    Does that mean 9% of the 80 are external (about 7 people from outside made it)?

    Yes


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  • #792
    Rosen
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Rosen


    Riskymove wrote: »
    a handful of people now assigned

    Hi - First 10 off the panel are in clearance, some of these 10 already have formal offers. All 10 posts so far are in Dublin from a variety of Departments.


  • #793
    windyout
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭windyout


    Higher PO results are out. Its a thumbs down for me. Not surprised as I knew I bombed one of the 3 online interview questions.
    I did wonder afterwards if I should have sought the help of a HR type expert to help me prepare a script for the 3 interview questions. We were given the 3 questions a week beforehand so there was plenty of time. I presume that there will be another interview stage anyway so maybe its a moot point.
    Anyway not to worry - the main panel seems to be moving.


  • #794
    adrem
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭adrem


    Riskymove wrote: »
    Yes

    So if there are 7 on the PO panel do we know how many (if any) external (non existing civil servants) got selected on the Counsellor panel and on the PO (higher) panel?


  • #795
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    adrem wrote: »
    So if there are 7 on the PO panel do we know how many (if any) external (non existing civil servants) got selected on the Counsellor panel and on the PO (higher) panel?

    nothing official

    I heard one outside person got counsellor

    PO1 is still in progress


  • #796
    windyout
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭windyout


    adrem wrote: »
    So if there are 7 on the PO panel do we know how many (if any) external (non existing civil servants) got selected on the Counsellor panel and on the PO (higher) panel?

    Well I can name 1 of the 7 external who made the PO panel but didn't make the higher PO ;)


  • #797
    Rosen
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Rosen


    Does anyone know of any more movement on the panel? Up to number 10 was the last I heard....


  • #798
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Rosen wrote: »
    Does anyone know of any more movement on the panel? Up to number 10 was the last I heard....

    that was last I heard

    I am not sure how many of the 6 gone to Counsellor Panel are beyond number which would lower numbers further.



    I would not expect more than say 4 or 5 a month tbh


  • #799
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    anyone heard of any more assignments?


  • #800
    SJ.
    Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭SJ.


    Riskymove wrote: »
    anyone heard of any more assignments?

    I heard up to around 15


  • #801
    Rosen
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Rosen


    Yeah, 15 in/gone through clearance, some placed already, some have turned down posts - all offers made so far are to the Dublin panel.


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  • #802
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    apparently now up to 30 in clearance


  • #803
    Rosen
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Rosen


    That has reached 30 a hell of a lot faster than the PAS predicted. Having said that, I know a few people in the top 30 who have declined offers so it doesn't translate to 30 appointments.


  • #804
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,347 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Rosen wrote: »
    Having said that, I know a few people in the top 30 who have declined offers
    Just curious - why did they decline?


  • #805
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Just curious - why did they decline?

    I know there are people in regions who aren't interested in Dublin jobs


  • #806
    windyout
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭windyout


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Just curious - why did they decline?

    A few reasons I can think of.
    For non existing public servants money may be an issue (starting at the bottom of the scale is certainly a factor)
    Maybe they didn't like the offer - I'm not sure how this works. If they don't like the offer are they allowed a second offer and if so when?, i.e. do they go back to the end of the queue or do they get the option of accepting the next post that arises?
    Maybe they got something else in the meantime


  • #807
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    windyout wrote: »
    A few reasons I can think of.
    For non existing public servants money may be an issue (starting at the bottom of the scale is certainly a factor)
    Maybe they didn't like the offer - I'm not sure how this works. If they don't like the offer are they allowed a second offer and if so when?, i.e. do they go back to the end of the queue or do they get the option of accepting the next post that arises?
    Maybe they got something else in the meantime

    More than likely location. People knew the package that was on offer when they applied - and the vast majority will already be Civil Servants.

    If you turn down a location you can't get another offer as far as I know. But you might have a second location that you applied for.


  • #808
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    some on the panel will have gotten a promotion throught other means (internal etc)


  • #809
    Bowiegal
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Bowiegal


    How do the PO panels work? Do you get one refusal or are you off the panel once you decline an offer? Interesting that they are down to 30 already.


  • #810
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Bowiegal wrote: »
    How do the PO panels work? Do you get one refusal or are you off the panel once you decline an offer? Interesting that they are down to 30 already.

    Off the panel for a specific location if you refuse. So if you are offered Dublin and refuse you won't be offered further Dublin posts. But you may still get offers from other parts of the country.


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  • #811
    Ravelleman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Does anyone know the current status of the PO HR panel? Interviews were due to take place in January, as of December 2017.


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