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Can a Christian vote for unlimited abortion?

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  • #2882
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    ....... wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    As you leave, I would like to give you a parting thought ...

    ... there is a way of terminating a pregnancy ... without killing the child ... its called giving birth !!!


  • #2883
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    ....... wrote: »
    Currently a foetuses right to life trumps a woman's right to bodily autonomy.

    This should not be the case. It shouldn't even be questioned!

    Currently both have an equal rights to life except in the event the foetus remaining alive puts the life of the mother at risk.
    In such an event, the foetus can be killed.

    The proposal is to remove the right to life of the foetus up to 12 weeks for any reason conceivable

    This isn't about the right to bodily autonomy it's about the removal of the right to life of the unborn.

    Whether people think it's a child or not. It is a human foetus. That's what people want to kill.
    As I've said , people here have advocated that it's not a human but not one has told me what they think it is...I patiently await an answer on that one!


  • #2884
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    J C wrote: »
    They do actually ... the love and forgiveness of Jesus Christ is the only way to stop their hurt for doing such an irreversible thing.

    No Human Being can undo the damage done ... and only Jesus Christ can forgive it.

    Matthew 11:28-30 King James Version (KJV)
    28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

    30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

    Women and their unborn children need access to the best medical care possible ... but doctors don't need their hands untied to kill one of them, just because the woman decides that she wants to 'evict' her unborn child.
    Tenants will have more rights of occupation than unborn children, if the 8th is repealed ... and tenants don't die, if they are evicted.

    Christians are Jesus Christ's representatives on Earth ... so we are fully authorised by Him to hand out His love and forgiveness ... to all who ask for it.

    Quote :-
    'Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.' (God).


    What a load of baloney.

    Oh. Wait.


    Yeah I think you’ll find the almost entire majority of people voting in this will be turned off completely by peoplexlike yourself pushing their god bothering bible crap on them.

    Good luck with that.


  • #2885
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Katie Full Leak wrote: »
    Whether people think it's a child or not. It is a human foetus. That's what people want to kill.
    As I've said , people here have advocated that it's not a human but not one has told me what they think it is...I patiently await an answer on that one!
    Tatranska, you may need the patience of Job on that one.:)


  • #2886
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    J C wrote: »

    That is what they are ... innocent little angels destined for the right hand of God ... and they're certainly not tumours or dogs, like they have so disparagingly been described on this thread.

    Can fetuses go straight to heaven, though? I thought baptism and accepting Jesus as our saviour was a prerequisite?


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  • #2887
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    david75 wrote: »
    What a load of baloney.

    Oh. Wait.


    Yeah I think you’ll find the almost entire majority of people voting in this will be turned off completely by peoplexlike yourself pushing their god bothering bible crap on them.

    Good luck with that.
    The choice of life or death is now being laid before everyone ... and I humbly ask them to choose life.

    I can do no more.


  • #2888
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Achasanai wrote: »
    Can fetuses go straight to heaven, though? I thought baptism and accepting Jesus as our saviour was a prerequisite?
    We don't have the right to kill them, whether they go straight to Heaven ... or cease to exist, as Atheists, for example, would have us believe.


  • #2889
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    WhiteRoses wrote:
    Your first paragraph once again speaks volumes of your compempt, disdain, lack of respect and distrust of women. You aren’t even trying to hide it any more. It’s clear for all to see.


    The masks slips every so often rose and they expose the same evil attitude that the nuns of old had.

    Thankfully nuns as a breed are soon to be extinct in Ireland and hopefully the extremists will follow.

    As a true Christian I'm disgusted by the hatred, contempt and envy shown towards women in this thread but it won't keep me awake.


  • #2890
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Is anybody else seeing the sudden shift in tone and language among certain very regular pro life posters here at certain periods?


  • #2891
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    david75 wrote:
    Is anybody else seeing the sudden shift in tone and language among certain very regular pro life posters here at certain periods?


    How do you mean? When the masks slips?


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  • #2892
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    pilly wrote: »
    The masks slips every so often rose and they expose the same evil attitude that the nuns of old had.

    Thankfully nuns as a breed are soon to be extinct in Ireland and hopefully the extremists will follow.

    As a true Christian I'm disgusted by the hatred, contempt and envy shown towards women in this thread but it won't keep me awake.
    The continuous self-pity and false claims that anybody 'who calls it like it is' ... is automatically anti-women is wearing very thin ... especially, when they are simultaneously demanding to be allowed kill future young women with impunity ... just because they happen to be unborn.


  • #2893
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    pilly wrote: »
    How do you mean? When the masks slips?

    Kind of. Certain posters end up sounding like certain other posters.
    It’s almost as if there’s a few people taking shifts running different accounts.

    Gonna PM a moderator about it.


  • #2894
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    david75 wrote: »
    Is anybody else seeing the sudden shift in tone and language among certain very regular pro life posters here at certain periods?
    NO.


  • #2895
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    david75 wrote: »
    Kind of. Certain posters end up sounding like certain other posters.
    It’s almost as if there’s a few people taking shifts running different accounts.

    Gonna PM a moderator about it.
    When all else fails ... you come up with an unfounded conspiracy theory.

    You'll be denying that I'm Human ... next.:)


  • #2896
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    pilly wrote: »
    Again, you know typing something in bold doesn't make it a fact don't You?

    in general the fact that something is fact makes it fact however.
    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    Your first paragraph once again speaks volumes of your compempt, disdain, lack of respect and distrust of women. You aren’t even trying to hide it any more. It’s clear for all to see.

    Spare me with your ‘innocent little angels’ rubbish.

    You can go on and on as much as you like, nothing on this earth qualifies you to interfere in my healthcare and in my bodily autonomy. Very soon our constitution will be changed to reflect that.

    Then you’ll have to find something else to preach about and interfere in. What next??

    there is no distrust of women in any of jc's posts. a fetus is as innocent as it gets. society has a right to insure you are unable to harm other human beings which in ireland's case include the unborn. health care has nothing to do with it as health care is provided in ireland. the unborn's right to life is equal to yours and trumps one's right to kill it for reasons outside medical necessity. even if the constitution changes, there will be a fight against the killing of the unborn, which will be won, even if it takes decades. abortion on demand will be eradicated eventually.
    david75 wrote: »
    They don’t need the love and forgiveness of Jesus Christ.

    They need access to appropriate medical care in their own country and doctors need their hands untied to provide it.

    You can keep the love and forgiveness. It’s up to Jesus to hand that out, not you or I.

    they have access to medical care in their own country. they just don't have access to contraceptive abortion, which is correct.
    david75 wrote: »
    What a load of baloney.

    Oh. Wait.


    Yeah I think you’ll find the almost entire majority of people voting in this will be turned off completely by peoplexlike yourself pushing their god bothering bible crap on them.

    Good luck with that.

    again this is more wishful thinking with likely no basis in reality.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #2897
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    david75 wrote:
    Gonna PM a moderator about it.


    Wasting your time on this forum. Apparently you're allowed to tell flat out lies in here.


  • #2898
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    J C wrote:
    The continuous self-pity and false claims that anybody 'who calls it like it is' ... is automatically anti-women is wearing very thin ... especially, when the extreme feminists are simultaneously demanding to kill fellow women with impunity ... just because they happen to be unborn.


    I feel no self-pity. Feel only pity for you. I would hate to carry the kind of hatred around that would make me tell a woman to be more careful about what she lets in her womb.


  • #2899
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,859 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    J C wrote: »
    They do actually ... the love and forgiveness of Jesus Christ is the only way to stop their hurt for doing such an irreversible thing.

    No Human Being can undo the damage done ... and only Jesus Christ can forgive it.

    Matthew 11:28-30 King James Version (KJV)
    28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

    30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

    Women and their unborn children need access to the best medical care possible ... but doctors don't need their hands untied to kill one of them, just because the woman decides that she wants to 'evict' her unborn child.
    Tenants will have more rights of occupation than unborn children, if the 8th is repealed ... and tenants don't die, if they are evicted.

    Christians are Jesus Christ's representatives on Earth ... so we are fully authorised by Him to hand out His love and forgiveness ... to all who ask for it.

    Quote :-
    'Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.' (God).

    And for those of us who couldnt give a tiny shiney <snip> about it?


  • #2900
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,859 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Achasanai wrote: »
    Can fetuses go straight to heaven, though? I thought baptism and accepting Jesus as our saviour was a prerequisite?

    Well they used to go to "purgatory " but that has been changed now because people statyed to see through the veil of lies.


  • #2901
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Some easy jiggery pokery and digging up ISPs will soon tell it’s own tale.


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  • #2902
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    david75 wrote:
    Some easy jiggery pokery and digging up ISPs will soon tell it’s own tale.


    Please do.


  • #2903
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    pilly wrote: »
    I feel no self-pity. Feel only pity for you. I would hate to carry the kind of hatred around that would make me tell a woman to be more careful about what she lets in her womb.
    ... I'd call that good advice if she is saying that she doesn't want anything in her womb, in the first place.:)

    The 'snowflake' generation really should not take themselves so seriously.:)


  • #2904
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    J C wrote: »
    ... I'd call that good advice if she is saying that she doesn't want anything in there, in the first place.:)

    Including you your opinion or your bible.

    None of the above have any place in any woman’s womb.


  • #2905
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And for those of us who couldnt give a tiny shiney sh/te about it?
    God loves you nonetheless ... and Jesus Christ came that all might be Saved ... but He won't force you.


  • #2906
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    J C wrote: »
    God loves you nonetheless ... and Jesus Christ came that all might be Saved ... but He won't force you.

    Is that you Oweny????


  • #2907
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,859 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    J C wrote: »
    God loves you nonetheless ... and Jesus Christ came that all might be Saved ... but He won't force you.

    I dont believe in either so couldnt give a tiny shiney <snip> about them


  • #2908
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    david75 wrote: »
    Including you your opinion or your bible.

    None of the above have any place in any woman’s womb.
    The only thing that has a proper place in a woman's womb is an unborn child.

    That's what a womb does ... gives an unborn child the protection and nutrition necessary to become mature enough to be safely born.


  • #2909
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    Is that you Oweny????



    Thank you. This is what I was just askin about a short while ago.
    Sudd n and dramatic shifts in language and tone. Sounds like it’s one possibly two poster using multiple accounts throughout the thread.

    Which is against boards rules I believe.


  • #2910
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    WhiteRoses wrote: »
    Is that you Oweny????
    You are joking!!!

    I've been called many things ... but never owney !!!


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  • #2911
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    david75 wrote: »
    Thank you. This is what I was just askin about a short while ago.
    Sudd n and dramatic shifts in language and tone. Sounds like it’s one possibly two poster using multiple accounts throughout the thread.

    Which is against boards rules I believe.
    ... and making untrue allegations, is also against boards rules.

    There are three persons in the one God ... but I'm just one person, (with one computer and one Boards account) last time I checked.


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