Upgrading a HKC SecureComm to a new panel

ukoda · 04-02-2018 11:17PM

kub wrote: »

You could, but if someone smashed your glass and entered without opening a window or door, they could bypass your alarm system

True, the Honeywell system has wireless glassbreak sensors but I’m unsure how well they would work with double glazing

kub · 04-02-2018 11:21PM

ukoda wrote:

True, the Honeywell system has wireless glassbreak sensors but Iâ€™m unsure how well they would work with double glazing

Just looking at the diagram you put up earlier, I have my doubts that system would comply with EN50131, which is a benchmark that insurers use.
I would also suggest you consider the Vanderbilt system.

KoolKid · 05-02-2018 08:19AM

Any system that he installs himself will not conform to En50131-1 anyway.

ukoda · 05-02-2018 10:36AM

kub wrote: »

Just looking at the diagram you put up earlier, I have my doubts that system would comply with EN50131, which is a benchmark that insurers use.
I would also suggest you consider the Vanderbilt system.

Does the Vanderbilt have remote access?

KoolKid · 05-02-2018 11:21AM

ukoda wrote: »

Does the Vanderbilt have remote access?

Yes, via app and web browser

ukoda · 05-02-2018 07:33PM

Thanks for the help guys, I was aware I’d not be compliant if I did it myself, it going to be more of an experiment than anything. I’ll prob opt for the Vanderbilt eventually

ukoda · 05-02-2018 07:35PM

Is it the SPC Connect app for the Vanderbilt system?

KoolKid · 05-02-2018 08:15PM

Yes

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/spc-connect/id948318844?mt=8

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siemens.spcconnect&hl=en

They are free to download & have a demo site to give you the feel of it.

ukoda · 05-02-2018 08:42PM

KoolKid wrote: »

Yes

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/spc-connect/id948318844?mt=8

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siemens.spcconnect&hl=en

They are free to download & have a demo site to give you the feel of it.

actually looks pretty good, the HKC app is god awful looking!

For a professional install of this, would i be better checking the register of installers and getting an independent guy., if such a thing exists. from a quick google i don't see any company local to me (cork city) that installs vanderbilt, and i'm assuming they will only want to sell their own system to me

KoolKid · 05-02-2018 09:12PM

All installers will be listed in the register.

ukoda · 05-02-2018 10:15PM

KoolKid wrote: »

All installers will be listed in the register.

what are advantages of the Vanderbilt over say the HKC SecureWave, which seems to be much more common?

KoolKid · 05-02-2018 10:36PM

There are lots. See through the thread for more information.
The 2 main reasons are apps are free and there are no annual charges & network fail notifications can be as low as a minute vs 5 hours for HKC.

hatchman · 06-02-2018 10:32AM

Be careful what u say about HKC some on here take offence to any non positive comment regarding hkc :-)

ukoda · 06-02-2018 10:40AM

hatchman wrote: »

Be careful what u say about HKC some on here take offence to any non positive comment regarding hkc :-)

It was a fairly mild criticism

their system seems to be highly rated and lots recommend it. I do think though the app is in bad need of a refresh and modernisation in design. I’m sure functionally is solid.

KoolKid · 06-02-2018 10:42AM

It's a fair comment when you look at the design of some of the free ones.

fred funk }{ · 06-02-2018 11:00AM

hatchman wrote: »

Be careful what u say about HKC some on here take offence to any non positive comment regarding hkc :-)

You see, there's a lot of history in here with this stuff and I understand that if someone from "the outside" were to dip their toe into it they will get a sharp burn (maybe unfairly). Also, there are some in here with an orchestrated agenda against HKC who themselves have a commercial interested in another manufacturer.

KoolKid · 06-02-2018 11:13AM

There you go.. That didn't take long, did it ðŸ˜
For the record I have no commercial agreements with any manufacturer.

ukoda · 06-02-2018 07:25PM

i'm just a DIY'er and smart home enthusiast looking to make the right decision on my next upgrade (i.e. alarm) If you asked me 3 months ago what kind of alarm i had or who made it, i wouldnt have been able to answer.

Think i'm resigned to the fact that i'll go with a professional install and not a DIY and just looking to educate myself on the best options - interestingly i had a conversation with an installer who rates HKC higher than Vanderbilt due to after sales issues with Vanderbilt hes experienced, I'm tending to believe him as he said he will quote me for and source me any system i want. also advised me straight up that HKC is €60 a year for the SIM, meaning hes not even adding a margin to that so i trust him now!

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