Another Sinn Fein blunder?

maccored · 04-02-2018 11:23PM

i accidentally misread the title as 'Another useless Thread Banging On About Sinn Fein Again?' I'm beginning to think that all these SF 'opponents' are actually huge fans of the party, trying their damned hardest to keep people talking about them.

dxhound2005 · 04-02-2018 11:24PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Have you ever seen a car clamped in NYC? In my 7 years of living there I haven't either.
Now one would imagine that a place like New York City, where parking, and the rules pertaining thereto would be the optimum environment for locking someone's car until they stumped up the cash, no?

I have only ever seen cars towed and that after HOURS of being parked in an area where they are interfering with traffic/commerce.

I never saw a car clamped in Ireland. Does that mean it does not exist?

Chrongen · 04-02-2018 11:25PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I think you are just making stuff up now.

In the United States, the device became known as a "Denver boot" after the city of Denver, Colorado, which was the first place in the country to employ them, mostly to force the payment of outstanding parking tickets

Is it new then? And is it now a countrywide or at least citywide phenomenon?

dxhound2005 · 04-02-2018 11:26PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Is it new then? And is it now a countrywide or at least citywide phenomenon?

Why are you asking me? You are the one posting so called facts. I had to look it up on the internet.

BalcombeSt4 · 04-02-2018 11:29PM

Dr Brown wrote: »

If your a "republican" then it probably would be.

Oh, great, thanks.

Relating to the topic if I was clamped I wouldn't care how much damage I did to the clamp to get it of, then I'd go looking for the wanker who did it & smack him over the head with the clamp & I'd gladly do the six months.

splinter65 · 04-02-2018 11:30PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Have to disagree, Road warrior.
Council, government or private enterprise do not have the right to interfere with one's private property.

Can I park my car on your driveway ?mines a bit crowded. Thanks.

BalcombeSt4 · 04-02-2018 11:36PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Why are you asking me? You are the one posting so called facts. I had to look it up on the internet.

Hi, I'm really sorry to go off topic, but what's on 6W? I only ever had an 80cm dish & never seen the need to go very far west.

cycle4fun · 04-02-2018 11:40PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Relating to the topic if I was clamped I wouldn't care how much damage I did to the clamp to get it of, then I'd go looking for the wanker who did it & smack him over the head with the clamp & I'd gladly do the six months.

And if a party spokesperson on policing ang justice done that? People would expect better. Well, most people would, certainly mature people, as they know for society to work properly people should not park on double yellow lines and then take the law in to their own hands.

Most people also have jobs, careers, mortgages , family commitments etc and do not have the luxury of being able to take 6 months out.

FTA69 · 04-02-2018 11:41PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

But actually doing it is alot more crass. The Old Bailey bombing was one of the most violent attacks on the British mainland over 220 people were seriously injured and it was such a stupid place to put a bomb as well, it was a miracle only 1 person was killed.

"British mainland"?? Hup out of that with your 'mainland' talk!

Also you're aware of some of the stuff the Balcombe St Four did yeah?

Chrongen · 04-02-2018 11:42PM

amcalester wrote: »

Freedom of movement doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Oh, indeed. Then I shall redefine it as vandalism.

Will that sit with your definitions?

mynamejeff · 04-02-2018 11:42PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Oh, great, thanks.

Relating to the topic if I was clamped I wouldn't care how much damage I did to the clamp to get it of, then I'd go looking for the wanker who did it & smack him over the head with the clamp & I'd gladly do the six months.

spoken like a man who has spent plenty of time doing time ,

you know the rules apply to you too regardless of your political affiliation or previous service to the "party"

amcalester · 04-02-2018 11:50PM

Chrongen wrote: »

Oh, indeed. Then I shall redefine it as vandalism.

Will that sit with your definitions?

Redefine what? I’m not sure what vandalism has to do with freedom of movement.

Chrongen · 04-02-2018 11:50PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Toll booths interfere with freedom of movement and extract a payment. Would it be OK to blow them up with a bomb?

Don't be so stupid. A toll booth exists much like a turnstile to a football match. If you don't pay you are not contained until you pay.

BalcombeSt4 · 04-02-2018 11:57PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

spoken like a man who has spent plenty of time doing time ,

you know the rules apply to you too regardless of your political affiliation or previous service to the "party"

Like Judith Ward, Guildford 4, Birminigham 6, The Maguire Family, The Bridgewater 4 etc...

No they don't. Just look at the Russian revolution to see how quickly rules on private property can change.

BalcombeSt4 · 05-02-2018 12:01AM

FTA69 wrote: »

"British mainland"?? Hup out of that with your 'mainland' talk!

Also you're aware of some of the stuff the Balcombe St Four did yeah?

What the hell do you call it? It wasn't the Middle East they were in.

The Balcombe 4 were never Ministers in Stormont lecturing people on violence when they used to egg on people themselves. Just like the SDLP did before Sinn Fein.

splinter65 · 05-02-2018 12:02AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Like Judith Ward, Guildford 4, Birminigham 6, The Maguire Family, The Bridgewater 4 etc...

No they don't. Just look at the Russian revolution to see how quickly rules on private property can change.

All property is theft

McMurphy · 05-02-2018 12:03AM

splinter65 wrote: »

Can I park my car on your driveway ?mines a bit crowded. Thanks.

Can he clamp your car and demand a ransom to remove the clamp if you do park in his driveway?

Chrongen · 05-02-2018 12:05AM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I don't think the rights of private property owners extend to being able to leave their cars anywhere they feel like.

And nobody said that.

You're trying to maintain that private property can be confiscated/and or vandalised.

As I pointed out earlier, and i feel I have been very clear on this point, if a vehicle is left/parked/situated in a manner or area that is restricted or forbidden then the owner/operator ought to be held accountable and punished forthwith. I am quite certain that parking fines are an acceptable response to those who shirk parking restrictions.

Effectively rendering the vehicle inoperable and demanding payment to remove mechanical restrictions is not something that I would deem as anything other than a rip-off and also an attack on private property.

Fann Linn · 05-02-2018 12:06AM

Who cares?
Its only clampers.

McMurphy · 05-02-2018 12:09AM

Why do people feel that a private company have the right to interfere with someone's private property/possession?

Oh you've a sign up saying you'll clamp people for whatever reason?

Fair enough - I must put a sign up with in my car saying anyone that places anything on it will be considered from there on my property, and I reserve the right to remove said property at my discretion.

Thats all the legal impunity I need (am I doing this right?)

splinter65 · 05-02-2018 12:17AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Can he clamp your car and demand a ransom to remove the clamp if you do park in his driveway?

He’s says he can’t himself so I should be alright. I’m on my way round now.

dxhound2005 · 05-02-2018 12:17AM

Chrongen wrote: »

And nobody said that.

You're trying to maintain that private property can be confiscated/and or vandalised.

As I pointed out earlier, and i feel I have been very clear on this point, if a vehicle is left/parked/situated in a manner or area that is restricted or forbidden then the owner/operator ought to be held accountable and punished forthwith. I am quite certain that parking fines are an acceptable response to those who shirk parking restrictions.

Effectively rendering the vehicle inoperable and demanding payment to remove mechanical restrictions is not something that I would deem as anything other than a rip-off and also an attack on private property.

And if the car is left somewhere "restricted or forbidden" for a few days, is it OK for someone to tow it away? Would you sue the tow truck company for any damage?

mynamejeff · 05-02-2018 12:23AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Like Judith Ward, Guildford 4, Birminigham 6, The Maguire Family, The Bridgewater 4 etc...

No they don't. Just look at the Russian revolution to see how quickly rules on private property can change.

ya which one are you ? ?

fact is a elected rep committed a criminal act and because he belongs to sf your are trying to ignore that fact

this inst the Russian revolution this is a gym carpark that your pal didnt feel like paying for

your laughable apart from the fact that you think your right

McMurphy · 05-02-2018 12:24AM

mynamejeff wrote: »

ya which one are you ? ?

fact is a elected rep committed a criminal act and because he belongs to sf your are trying to ignore that fact

this inst the Russian revolution this is a gym carpark that your pal didnt feel like paying for

your laughable apart from the fact that you think your right

What was the criminal act?

mynamejeff · 05-02-2018 12:26AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

What was the criminal act?

criminal damage theft , not paying for parking like every one else

you people are nuts

McMurphy · 05-02-2018 12:31AM

mynamejeff wrote: »

criminal damage theft , not paying for parking like every one else

you people are nuts

Can you direct me to where this person (regardless of his political persuasion) broke any specific law - especially one that centre's on him (or her) removing a foreign object - placed on his or her private property?

Can I clamp someone for parking in my allocated car parking space outside my office/house if the mood takes me?

Maybe I will, and when I get the lawyers letter for interfering with someone else's vehicle , I'll just link them to your above post and say a randomer on the internet reckons it was ok to do so.

FTA69 · 05-02-2018 12:32AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

What the hell do you call it? It wasn't the Middle East they were in.

The Balcombe 4 were never Ministers in Stormont lecturing people on violence when they used to egg on people themselves. Just like the SDLP did before Sinn Fein.

I'd call Britain Britain and Ireland Ireland myself. Our country isn't an offshoot of Britain like.

mynamejeff · 05-02-2018 12:34AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Can you direct me to where this person (regardless of his political persuasion) broke any specific law - especially one that centre's on him (or her) removing a foreign object - placed on his or her private property?

Can I clamp someone for parking in my allocated car parking space outside my office/house if the mood takes me?

Maybe I will, and when I get the lawyers letter for interfering with someone else's vehicle , I'll just link them to your above post and say a randomer on the internet reckons it was ok to do so.

you do that wee gerry

McMurphy · 05-02-2018 12:37AM

mynamejeff wrote: »

you do that wee gerry

Didn't think you would (could).

Good lad Gerry. If Jeffrey (can't believe it's not Daniel O'Donnell) Donaldson or anyone else did the same I'd applaud him/her too (for clarity).

BalcombeSt4 · 05-02-2018 12:39AM

FTA69 wrote: »

I'd call Britain Britain and Ireland Ireland myself. Our country isn't an offshoot of Britain like.

Well six counties of them are according to the Free state constitution.

Another Sinn Fein blunder?

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