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AdBlue, what the hell?

  • 31-01-2018 09:39PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭


    Where have I been hiding in the last while?

    I just got a new VW to find it has something called Adblue that I have to refill every so often. Never told it was on the car - not to mind what its for...

    I still would have brought the car, but can’t believe I never knew of this new emission reducing system....

    Anyhow, does anyone know where I can get the tub and nozzle to use on a 10l jug of this wonder chem?

    The 1.86l bottles are extraordinary expensive. But I know a local place to get the stuff for a lot less, just need a safe system of topping the stuff up in car.

    Anyone?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    dc99 wrote: »
    Where have I been hiding in the last while?

    I just got a new VW to find it has something called Adblue that I have to refill every so often. Never told it was on the car - not to mind what its for...

    I still would have brought the car, but can’t believe I never knew of this new emission reducing system....

    Anyhow, does anyone know where I can get the tub and nozzle to use on a 10l jug of this wonder chem?

    The 1.86l bottles are extraordinary expensive. But I know a local place to get the stuff for a lot less, just need a safe system of topping the stuff up in car.

    Anyone?

    It's in all euro 6 engines and a must from the EU.

    Big bottle sold at topaz or motor factors.

    It's essentially p iss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Maxol and Halfords sell it, think the bottles they have come with a nozzle for connecting it to the tank on the car.

    Poor show from salesperson not to explain it to you. Most likely they didn't show any interest in how you would actually be using the car whether a diesel with DPF was suitable for you either, just took the money and ran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Motor factors will do it for you and may even fill it for you if you ask nicely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    They have it in all the advance pitstop places and a few Topaz garages have it at the pump.

    It's a pain in the arse to be honest and do not run out of it or your car will not start until refilled. It wont cut out mind so goes to show how much use it is.

    I typically get about 10,000kms out of 10L in a Caddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Buy a single 1.8 litre bottle, then cut the arse out of it and use it as a funnell for a 10 litre bottle.

    VW dealers do a 10l for €15 ish which is better value than the 1.8l bottles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭enumbers


    Most motor factors stock it, the one I use has 20 litre cans with a nozzle for filling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,071 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    So what year did VW cars start using it?

    And where do you put it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    NIMAN wrote: »
    So what year did VW cars start using it?

    And where do you put it?

    Around 2016 on.

    It right beside fuel cap in most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Large vehicles since 2008 and a bit before depending on models etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,877 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's in most Euro6 compliant diesel passenger vehicles these days, there is usually either a filler next to the existing fuel filler or in some cases there is a filler in the boot of the car.

    AdBlue has been used in trucks for years afaik.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,071 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Never seen it on my 16 Golf, so mustn't have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Never seen it on my 16 Golf, so mustn't have it.

    Depending on model changes and engines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    bazz26 wrote: »
    It's in most Euro6 compliant diesel passenger vehicles these days, there is usually either a filler next to the existing fuel filler or in some cases there is a filler in the boot of the car.

    AdBlue has been used in trucks for years afaik.

    Also under the bonnet beside the radiator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Never seen it on my 16 Golf, so mustn't have it.

    The Golf and Passat don't use it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    dc99 wrote: »
    But I know a local place to get the stuff for a lot less

    Cheaper is good, but I would strongly recommend you make sure it is still good quality. Been dealing with adblue in trucks for years and trust me, you don't want the problems associated with poor quality or contaminated adblue.

    The pumps and sensors controlling those systems don't come cheap and its no fun telling drivers that contamination means they have to pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 porcupine3


    Be careful not to overfill it. Was told by the Merc dealership where car was bought that this can also result in the sensor showing an adblue problem. A different dealer did the first service and not long after picking up the car got the message that the engine would shut down in about 800km. Had to be towed away. Personally I believe that dealer 2 overfilled it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,774 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    The Golf and Passat don't use it yet.

    Some Passats do have adblue. Mainly DSG or 4 Motion. 190 saloon had it before they stopped selling it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,360 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    porcupine3 wrote: »
    Be careful not to overfill it. Was told by the Merc dealership where car was bought that this can also result in the sensor showing an adblue problem. A different dealer did the first service and not long after picking up the car got the message that the engine would shut down in about 800km. Had to be towed away. Personally I believe that dealer 2 overfilled it.

    Id have to call B.S. on that one I've never had that issue and I've filled it to the gills dozens of times. Perhaps particular to Merc though but I'd find it hard to believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Last time I was up there,the unmanned station near TV3 in ballymount charged 79c a litre at a pump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Id have to call B.S. on that one I've never had that issue and I've filled it to the gills dozens of times. Perhaps particular to Merc though but I'd find it hard to believe

    Funny, we had that in an S-Class before, filled it to the neck before it was collected and we got an adblue warning the dash, ended up sending it to a Merc main dealer and I think the long and the short of it was it was over full.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    Picked up our new 181 truck and the dealer told me not to top up the Adblue until there was only about a quarter of a tank left otherwise repeatedly filling it would reduce its effect.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    It's in all euro 6 engines and a must from the EU.....

    My car is new 2018, Euro 6 compliant, and doesn't have/use AdBlue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Picked up our new 181 truck and the dealer told me not to top up the Adblue until there was only about a quarter of a tank left otherwise repeatedly filling it would reduce its effect.

    What a load of rubbish.

    More to the point, in most trucks letting the adblue level fall below a certain level will cause a warning on the dash and the vehicle to go into limp mode, telling drivers to run it down to that level is just asking for trouble.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Based on average annual mileage what's the estimated additional cost of running a car that uses AdBlue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    My car is new 2018, Euro 6 compliant, and doesn't have/use AdBlue.

    Sorry I am wrong in what I said.

    I thought I had added in most new models, as in older types haven't added it on yet.

    It is going to be an addition to them all eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,890 ✭✭✭grogi


    It's in all euro 6 engines

    Incorrect. Lean NOx trap can also be sufficient, especially for smaller cars.
    and a must from the EU.

    What is this suppose to mean? Blame EU for actually caring? Don't forget that NOx norms in US are even more strict...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Based on average annual mileage what's the estimated additional cost of running a car that uses AdBlue?

    €20 ish.

    A good rule of thumb us around a litre of adblue for every 1000kms covered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    grogi wrote: »
    Incorrect. Lean NOx trap can also be sufficient, especially for smaller cars.



    What is this suppose to mean? Blame EU for actually caring? Don't forget that NOx norms in US are even more strict...


    No it isn't meant to be like you say.

    It is p iss though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    miks garage have 20l for €28
    PR reillys or toppart do those prices as well


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    vandriver wrote: »
    Last time I was up there,the unmanned station near TV3 in ballymount charged 79c a litre at a pump.

    thats cheap i


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