Sea of Thieves

Mickeroo · 27-01-2018 12:03am

erkifino wrote: »

Playing randomers is pretty crap. A lot of people quitting. Also got locked in the brig for no reason. After 5 mins I had to quit. What's the point of the brig? To get trolled by your own crew.

Seems so, I had hoped you could use it for enemies.

erkifino · 27-01-2018 1:04am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Seems so, I had hoped you could use it for enemies.

I can see the point of it when it comes to the cowboys who take the ship for a spin while the rest of the crew are on an island. Still though it may as well because vote to kick someone.

27-01-2018 10:10am

There doesn't seem to be much to the game. Is there any progression (ship, equipment or weapon upgrades)? What is going to keep people coming back once the novelty has worn off?

I suspect this will be an attempt of a game as a service that Spencer has talked about. No beginning, middle or end to the game. A world that can be constantly improved and evolved ala minecraft. And no doubt...the dreaded micro transactions as revenue.

Fingleberries · 27-01-2018 10:53am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There doesn't seem to be much to the game. Is there any progression (ship, equipment or weapon upgrades)? What is going to keep people coming back once the novelty has worn off?

I suspect this will be an attempt of a game as a service that Spencer has talked about. No beginning, middle or end to the game. A world that can be constantly improved and evolved ala minecraft. And no doubt...the dreaded micro transactions as revenue.

That's a concern that many have had who have been playing for a while. The currently announced progression system is with the three factions - gold hoarders, traders and the whatchamacallits who want occult stuff. Complete quests for them, warm money, rotation titles and gear.

I believe that there don't be weapon upgrades available so everyone is on a more or less even ground on battle (although the sniper rifle was new with the beta).

For depth, there seem to be a lot of empty buildings on the outposts - if I were a betting man, I'd suspect that we may see more NPCs in there.

As for microtransactions, they may well appear, but wif they do they are likely to follow the Team Fortress 2 model: Hats, etc. You can buy It if you want but it won't give you an advantage.

The biggest concern will be how they will handle griefing - hanging out at a village to nick gold about to be handed in, putting your crew into the brig 'for the craic' and so on.

Mickeroo · 27-01-2018 1:47pm

The game does feel quite empty at times (in the beta at least) but it is a lot of fun when you run into other ships.

Max Mafioso · 27-01-2018 2:26pm

Finally managed to get into a game solo last night.
So have things changed cause I didnt have any of the gold I had built up from the previous games and I didnt start with a map either so had no idea what to do in terms of finding treasure.
I ended up sailing around and shooing at other players

Mickeroo · 27-01-2018 2:35pm

Max Mafioso wrote: »

Finally managed to get into a game solo last night.
So have things changed cause I didnt have any of the gold I had built up from the previous games and I didnt start with a map either so had no idea what to do in terms of finding treasure.
I ended up sailing around and shooing at other players

Theres an npc in a tent where you spawn that you can buy treasure maps off, theres a free one to get you started.

erkifino · 27-01-2018 3:01pm

Yeah, the goldie lookin guy at the outpost has the free map.

The game/levels were reset but we're all hoping as it's the beta it's about ironing out the mechanics. It has to be fleshed out as it's not, currently, worth it's full price.

Don't forget to get your map, get to the ship, select a voyage then vote for a voyage. Ringing that bell and shooting the voyage table trying to get people's attention so we can cast off an adventure is annoying... Partly my own mic-less self's fault.

Korvanica · 27-01-2018 3:38pm

Fingleberries wrote: »

The biggest concern will be how they will handle griefing - hanging out at a village to nick gold about to be handed in

This is how they'll hopefully handle it:

You spend ages on a voyage and visit many places digging up treasure, you sail straight up to an outpost and jump onto it with your shiny new chest to get that delicious loot. You get gunned down and a ****ing PIRATE STEALS YOUR GOLD.

And they (the devs) change nothing and do nothing to help you, Tough ****. This is a game about pirates.

No safe zones. No guaranteed rewards.

Fingleberries wrote: »

putting your crew into the brig 'for the craic' and so on.

this is an issue though, when a group of 3 dont want a 4th theres nothing you can do but quit since theyll leave you in there.

27-01-2018 8:28pm

I played a bit of the Alpha and checked this out last night, doesn't seem to have been a whole lot changed or added. Definitely feels very shallow, once the novelty wore off I was left asking myself whats the point

If it released like this I wouldn't be prepared to stick around and wait while they update it etc. every few months.

FAILSAFE 00 · 27-01-2018 8:47pm

On Xbox there is a Field of View slider in the video settings lads, up it to the max.

A tip for selling your gold chests. Sail around the island first to make sure there is no ship docked there and be suspicious if one seems close by.

Trying to work out the paces?
Select your compass and hold the right trigger down and move forward. Each vibration is a pace.

awec · 28-01-2018 12:41am

Korvanica wrote: »

This is how they'll hopefully handle it:

You spend ages on a voyage and visit many places digging up treasure, you sail straight up to an outpost and jump onto it with your shiny new chest to get that delicious loot. You get gunned down and a ****ing PIRATE STEALS YOUR GOLD.

And they (the devs) change nothing and do nothing to help you, Tough ****. This is a game about pirates.

No safe zones. No guaranteed rewards.

this is an issue though, when a group of 3 dont want a 4th theres nothing you can do but quit since theyll leave you in there.

Yea but it means the most effective way to get loot is to just never bother going on a ship and just camp on outposts.

erkifino · 28-01-2018 2:11pm

Spent about 15 mins trying to find a game last night. Finally got into one. Invited to group chat and told I had two options. 1.Quit or 2. Get sent to the brig. If I wasn't waiting so long I probably would've quit. Sat in the brig playing shanties for maybe 10 minutes. They did sell their chests in that time so at least I got paid...

Fingleberries · 28-01-2018 7:55pm

awec wrote: »

Yea but it means the most effective way to get loot is to just never bother going on a ship and just camp on outposts.

solos are screwed, in that case, but a 4-man crew could bring in the gold like the Securicor van going to the bank with an armed guard.

FAILSAFE 00 · 29-01-2018 3:35am

Don't dock too close to land. Bring a crap chest first. If there is a trap you'll know when you go to sell it. If you die you spawn on your ship. If no one is there when you sell the first chest go back and bring the ship a bit closer and start offloading the most expensive chests first.

Had fun taking a ship earlier that was pursing us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VkBxVblko

maximoose · 30-01-2018 1:13pm

He's definitely not an impartial source, but Jez Corden is at Rare right now for a press event to show off the full game, and tweeted:

Any concerns I had about Sea of Thieves are gone. This will be 2018's PUBG.

Bit optimistic probably, but reassuring after the moaning from the beta

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 11:24am

I for one cannot wait for this game to release. It is serious fun.

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 11:44am

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Think it will be a day one purchase for me.

I just bought 7 months Game Pass. I am already ready for the launch!!!

gmg678 · 01-02-2018 12:02pm

I have played since the Alpha and I know there is more things to be added but I found the beta incredibly boring. Even playing with friends who were playing it for the first time. I will pick up game pass and get it that way. I just hope that there long term game plan works out.

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 12:41pm

gmg678 wrote: »

I have played since the Alpha and I know there is more things to be added but I found the beta incredibly boring. Even playing with friends who were playing it for the first time. I will pick up game pass and get it that way. I just hope that there long term game plan works out.

There is so much more to come from this game. It is going to be a massive success I think.

Installing a Harpoon gun onto my ship so I can hunt Moby Dick and The Kraken with other ships in global events. Upgrading and customising my ship and character so I stand out from the rest. Working with the Gold Hoarders Trading Company, The Merchants Alliance and The Order of Souls.

The game is a hell of alot of fun with a party of friends.

Not to mention the graphics. HDR on this game is breathtaking, the sea, sky and weather is just unreal. Easily the best I have seen in any game I have played to date.

Mickeroo · 01-02-2018 12:44pm

Is there big co op missions like hunting krakens and whales? That sounds like fun.

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 12:49pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Is there big co op missions like hunting krakens and whales? That sounds like fun.

Yes, Moby Dick and The Kraken are confirmed as is a Harpoon Gun.

maximoose · 01-02-2018 12:50pm

I didn't play the beta, but wasn't it intentionally less content even compared to the alpha?

I really enjoyed what I played of the early alphas, and was happy to leave it at that. I'll be playing via Gamepass when it launches (love that decision by MS) and quite looking forward to it now.

There does seem to be a considerable bit of hype built, hope the full game content lives up to it.

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 12:52pm

maximoose wrote: »

I didn't play the beta, but wasn't it intentionally less content even compared to the alpha?

I really enjoyed what I played of the early alphas, and was happy to leave it at that. I'll be playing via Gamepass when it launches (love that decision by MS) and quite looking forward to it now.

There does seem to be a considerable bit of hype built, hope the full game content lives up to it.

Yes, essentially the press that were playing during the closed beta had access to the ENTIRE game, no limitations. Only us mere mortals were limited to what we could do in the closed beta.

The embargo on the press lifts on the 13th February and then we will get a shed load of reviews and updates. But from what has leaked so far, NO press player has had a bad thing to say about the full game. They are all raving about it. Things are looking up for the game.

I can't wait for launch.

erkifino · 01-02-2018 12:58pm

ZiabR wrote: »

Upgrading and customising my ship

in all the games I've played I don't know who owned the ships. I'd guess customising it won't be an option? Unless single player, maybe.

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 1:01pm

erkifino wrote: »

in all the games I've played I don't know who owns the ship. I'd guess customising it won't be an option?

It is confirmed that you can fully customise your ship, from the cannons it has on it to the sails to the anchor and you can even stick a big mermaid or sea creature onto the bow. Below is a confirmed list.

Cannons - I could fiddle around with different kinds of cannons all day.
Capstan - This is the part of the ship you use to haul up and drop the anchor.
Livery - This likely refers to the icon that appears on your mast and other parts of your ship.
Mast - The most visible part of your ship from a distance, so make it look good!
Wheel - The consummate symbol of a pirate's life deserves special attention.
Figureheads - This is the sculpture that goes on the front of your ship. A few of the options include a parrot, a unicorn, and something called "jdark" - almost certainly referring to Joanna Dark, main character of Rare's Perfect Dark games.
Harpoon Gun - HELL YES.

Oh and along with Sharks, there are also Mermaids who will try to drown you. Moby Dick and The Kraken. They have confirmed more sea creatures will be added in time.

And as for weapons, there is also a Boarding Axe, a Heavy Sword, a Rapier and finally a proper pistol, not a flint pistol, a proper pistol.

erkifino · 01-02-2018 2:06pm

Interesting.

Being a pessimist, are people going to keep quitting when they don't get to use their ship?

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 2:43pm

erkifino wrote: »

Interesting.

Being a pessimist, are people going to keep quitting when they don't get to use their ship?

No, the ships in the beta were randomly generated.

The ones in the final release wont be random. You will have a customise menu BEFORE you load into the game where you can setup the ship so you are always using YOUR ship.

It would make no sense and would be pointless to have random ships in the final release.

Korvanica · 01-02-2018 2:51pm

ZiabR wrote: »

No, the ships in the beta were randomly generated.

The ones in the final release wont be random. You will have a customise menu BEFORE you load into the game where you can setup the ship so you are always using YOUR ship.

It would make no sense and would be pointless to have random ships in the final release.

I think he meant whos ship is used in game ? Will people quit because the game selected someone elses ship. I imagine they will. but hopefully most wont care.

I hope, if in a 4 man crew, when we get a new ship, its made up of parts of everyones ship.

As sails, Bs mast, Cs hull, Ds wheel etc.

That or else select a random one of the 4.

erkifino · 01-02-2018 2:51pm

ZiabR wrote: »

No, the ships in the beta were randomly generated.

The ones in the final release wont be random. You will have a customise menu BEFORE you load into the game where you can setup the ship so you are always using YOUR ship.

It would make no sense and would be pointless to have random ships in the final release.

I'm not saying random ships. There are 4 people per boat. 3 people won't get their customised ship.

ZiabR · 01-02-2018 3:03pm

erkifino wrote: »

I'm not saying random ships. There are 4 people per boat. 3 people won't get their customised ship.

Sorry, I misunderstood your comment.

CatInABox · 01-02-2018 3:08pm

erkifino wrote: »

I'm not saying random ships. There are 4 people per boat. 3 people won't get their customised ship.

They'd could have a vote on the boat beforehand, or something like that.

erkifino · 01-02-2018 4:33pm

ZiabR wrote: »

Sorry, I misunderstood your comment.

No worries. I can be incoherent at times!

Max Mafioso · 01-02-2018 4:38pm

Maybe there will be some sort of hierarchy system where if you dont want to captain a ship, you can offer your service to a captain and be part of the crew

Fingleberries · 01-02-2018 4:39pm

erkifino wrote: »

I'm not saying random ships. There are 4 people per boat. 3 people won't get their customised ship.

Not likely to happen, but could the game just render Person A's ship customisations on their console, Person B's customisations on their console, etc.? That way they all feel that they have their ship...

maximoose · 02-02-2018 10:48am

Reddit has been busy datamining the update to the beta

New animations, skins, chests, cosmetics, npcs, locations etc. oh and Kraken confirmed :pac:

Mickeroo · 02-02-2018 10:56am

I presume there'll be an open beta relatively soon?

FAILSAFE 00 · 02-02-2018 7:01pm

Sea of thieves Closed beta updated yesterday on my console. That might be a sign of an open beta to come.

ZiabR · 05-02-2018 9:39am

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Sea of thieves Closed beta updated yesterday on my console. That might be a sign of an open beta to come.

It would surely be only for a weekend, we are so close to the actual launch and I thought the game ran very well in the closed beta.

ZiabR · 05-02-2018 3:13pm

Check out this ****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_l-uk-pzCE

This game is going to be MUCH bigger than we think. I cannot wait. There will be so much to discover off the beaten track.

06-02-2018 3:42pm

ZiabR wrote: »

Check out this ****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_l-uk-pzCE

This game is going to be MUCH bigger than we think. I cannot wait. There will be so much to discover off the beaten track.

The key point though is what does it all matter? We can see the world has a lot of potential and it's going to grow and grow with content over the years as a gaming service. But what are the dynamics that will drive people to play the game and explore the world? We've yet to see this if it even exists at all.

ZiabR · 07-02-2018 12:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The key point though is what does it all matter? We can see the world has a lot of potential and it's going to grow and grow with content over the years as a gaming service. But what are the dynamics that will drive people to play the game and explore the world? We've yet to see this if it even exists at all.

Did you play the Closed Beta? There is plenty to do and we already know a good bit about what else we can expect.

I was just pointing out that it is a really nice feature to add things into the game that no one knows are there. It gives reason to actually explore the sea outside of normal quests.

07-02-2018 2:22pm

ZiabR wrote: »

Did you play the Closed Beta? There is plenty to do and we already know a good bit about what else we can expect.

I was just pointing out that it is a really nice feature to add things into the game that no one knows are there. It gives reason to actually explore the sea outside of normal quests.

I wasn't having a go

It's great that you enjoy it, I would never criticize anyone for enjoying a game regardless of my opinion on it. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to discuss the more intricate details of the game....on a games discussion board no less. Yes I agree we know there is more to come, can we not discuss what that might be (and what we hope to see) without getting offended?

ZiabR · 07-02-2018 2:52pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I wasn't having a go It's great that you enjoy it, I would never criticize anyone for enjoying a game regardless of my opinion on it. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to discuss the more intricate details of the game....on a games discussion board no less. Yes I agree we know there is more to come, can we not discuss what that might be (and what we hope to see) without getting offended?

Apologies if you thought I was offended or being defensive. I was just inquiring if you had played the Beta yourself, if so, I was interested in hearing what you thought if the ins and outs of the mechanics IF you had played it.

I do believe this game is designed to be played in teams. I can see it becoming slightly boring if you were in a solo ship all the time. Teams is where the fun is and where this game excels.

FAILSAFE 00 · 07-02-2018 4:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The key point though is what does it all matter? We can see the world has a lot of potential and it's going to grow and grow with content over the years as a gaming service. But what are the dynamics that will drive people to play the game and explore the world? We've yet to see this if it even exists at all.

I think you are over thinking a fun game. This isn't Destiny. We are pirates. Steal other players stuff and sink their ships

erkifino · 07-02-2018 5:39pm

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

I think you are over thinking a fun game. This isn't Destiny. We are pirates. Steal other players stuff and sink their ships

Simplicity.

I didn't explore any island apart from following the map or riddles. I did wonder how they'd justify the price tag though. The fact it'll be in game pass that doesn't matter now.

maximoose · 08-02-2018 9:42am

More datamining of the latest update to the beta has shown up references to "OPEN BETA ORDER OF SOULS QUESTS" so looks like it is indeed coming

details here

ZiabR · 08-02-2018 10:28am

maximoose wrote: »

More datamining of the latest update to the beta has shown up references to "OPEN BETA ORDER OF SOULS QUESTS" so looks like it is indeed coming

details here

Thanks Maxi, great news. Will be diving back in here for the open beta.

ZiabR · 13-02-2018 1:16pm

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-13-the-sea-of-thieves-endgame-sounds-super-cool

Super article and great video. I cannot wait for this.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-13-yes-sea-of-thieves-has-a-premium-shop

Fingleberries · 13-02-2018 1:34pm

ZiabR wrote: »

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-13-the-sea-of-thieves-endgame-sounds-super-cool

Super article and great video. I cannot wait for this.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-13-yes-sea-of-thieves-has-a-premium-shop

From the Alpha and Beta, the core gameplay and the craic is there to be had. All the rest of these details are fleshing it out nicely.

(Even Windows Central's PC specs are useful to know - played the Beta at 540p on my Surface Pro 4 - it's a bit smooshed and doesn't have all the fancy lighting but was a great way to play along with the nipper on a two man boat).

One thing that I can see coming down the road is the Daily Mirror headlines about a spate of pet cats and monkeys being fired from cannons, because "Xbox encouraged this sort of filth"

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