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France vs Ireland Buildup Thread [MOD WARNING IN OP]

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  • #182
    [Deleted User]
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Good 23
    I'm confident of a result in France



    It was right to be asked
    I was sickened to see our captain attend

    I don't see how it has anything to do with Joe or the team. Best has his own reasons but he wasn't there in any official capacity.

    I have feelings about it myself but I don't think an Ireland team announcement was the place to ask.


  • #183
    irishfan9
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    ridiculous to ask.


  • #184
    Leslie Moldy Napkin
    Posts: 0 ✭ Leslie Moldy Napkin


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    ridiculous to ask.

    Gotta grab those headlines though.


  • #185
    Former Former
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    Deleted User wrote: »
    It looks like the gallery was asked not to raise questions about the trial and hence the first question started with 'not about the trial... but what do you think about [this aspect] of the trial'.

    Sure way to not get credentials for future Irish Rugby pressers.

    There's absolutely no way the IRFU would withdraw credentials from anyone, that's nonsense.

    However, the best way to get a journalist to ask a question is to tell them not to ask it. (we don't know if they were told not to ask it, of course)

    It's a legitimate question IMO. Maybe not the right forum to ask, it was always going to be a "no comment", but it's a fair question.


  • #186
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Paul K*mmage
    Former Former wrote: »
    There's absolutely no way the IRFU would withdraw credentials from anyone, that's nonsense.

    If they haven't taken them off Cummiskey, they won't take it off whoever asked that question.

    However they don't have the greatest record in the area.


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  • #187
    aloooof
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    Former Former wrote: »
    There's absolutely no way the IRFU would withdraw credentials from anyone, that's nonsense.

    However, the best way to get a journalist to ask a question is to tell them not to ask it. (we don't know if they were told not to ask it, of course)

    It's a legitimate question IMO. Maybe not the right forum to ask, it was always going to be a "no comment", but it's a fair question.

    I might be a legitimate question, but I don't think they were every going to get anything but a "do not wish to comment on an on-going trial" type answer*.

    *Bearing in mind I didn't see the press conference, but am assuming that's what they got?


  • #188
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Armando Alive Tour wrote: »
    Gotta grab those headlines though.

    Nah would have been easier for the reporter to say nothing
    The independent had the photo up yesterday but it seems to have been taken down shortly afterwards, not sure if back up
    I know I want to know why the Captain of the National team was at the Trial, doubt I'm alone
    Joe's answer of "no Comment" was fine, but to say it shouldn't have been asked at all I simply don't agree with


  • #189
    Sangre
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    aloooof wrote: »
    I might be a legitimate question, but I don't think they were every going to get anything but a "do not wish to comment on an on-going trial" type answer*.

    *Bearing in mind I didn't see the press conference, but am assuming that's what they got?

    Still a result for journalist.

    "IRFU refused to comment on the Irish captain's controversial decision to attend this gruesome event....you won't believe where he was"


  • #190
    Faugheen
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Nah would have been easier for the reporter to say nothing
    The independent had the photo up yesterday but it seems to have been taken down shortly afterwards, not sure if back up
    I know I want to know why the Captain of the National team was at the Trial, doubt I'm alone
    Joe's answer of "no Comment" was fine, but to say it shouldn't have been asked at all I simply don't agree with

    Actually, the question was if Best or Henderson had permission to attend the trial, in which Joes said 'not allowed to comment on legal matters.'

    Whether the lads were allowed to go or not is not a legal matter.

    I want to know why Best and Henderson were there as well. Completely inappropriate considering the case as well as the fact that it was three days before our first 6 nations game.


  • #191
    molloyjh
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    It's entirely possible they were there as more than just spectators, e.g. character witnesses. That would explain their presence and Joe's response. I mean it's not like we saw them walk up to the 2 lads and pat them on the back and have a laugh with them.


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  • #192
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Paul K*mmage
    wp_rathead wrote: »
    It was right to be asked
    I was sickened to see our captain attend

    If someone I worked with every day and who I considered a good friend was brought to court on serious charges of rape or murder I'd like to be there. I don't know whether I'd be there to offer support or to see his face while the victim gave her story but I'd certainly want to be there.


  • #193
    Former Former
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    molloyjh wrote: »
    It's entirely possible they were there as more than just spectators, e.g. character witnesses. That would explain their presence and Joe's response.

    No, that is not the case.


  • #194
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Former Former wrote: »
    No, that is not the case.

    That's pretty definitive and vague.....

    At the end of the day we simply don't know what the craic is and never will. Making speculative guesses from a point of almost total ignorance isn't going to get us anywhere.


  • #195
    Former Former
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    molloyjh wrote: »
    That's pretty definitive and vague.....

    At the end of the day we simply don't know what the craic is and never will. Making speculative guesses from a point of almost total ignorance isn't going to get us anywhere.

    They were not there as witnesses or character witnesses. That's not a guess, it's not speculation, it's fact.

    Just to clarify; I don't object to them being there but it is a story of immense public interest and the journalists should be asking about it. Again, maybe this press conference is the wrong forum (in fact, it definitely is), but where else can you ask it?


  • #196
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    molloyjh wrote: »
    That's pretty definitive and vague.....

    At the end of the day we simply don't know what the craic is and never will. Making speculative guesses from a point of almost total ignorance isn't going to get us anywhere.

    They'd hardly have character witnesses there during the prosecution.

    Anyways, they are on their own time they can do whatever the **** they want as far as I'm concerned.

    You'd expect that team to hammer France to be honest. But we never hammer France in Paris so don't really know what to expect.


  • #197
    Faugheen
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    If someone I worked with every day and who I considered a good friend was brought to court on serious charges of rape or murder I'd like to be there. I don't know whether I'd be there to offer support or to see his face while the victim gave her story but I'd certainly want to be there.

    You're not the captain of the Irish rugby team.


  • #198
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Isabelle Ithurburu
    ... Yeah guys I'm pumped for the match too


  • #199
    irishfan9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    1st time ever that there has been more players from St. Michaels than Blackrock in an Ireland 23?


  • #200
    [Deleted User]
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    molloyjh wrote: »
    That's pretty definitive and vague.....

    At the end of the day we simply don't know what the craic is and never will. Making speculative guesses from a point of almost total ignorance isn't going to get us anywhere.

    In any trial the prosecution presents it's case first. Character witnesses for the defence don't show up until much later on.

    I can't watch it again now but the journalist opened with 'not asking specifically about the trial but...' which indicated to me that they had been warned not to ask or at least told they would get no comment.

    As for the lads attending court. There is a presumption of innocence that we all need to remember to respect. That said and without going into detail, if evidence or facts emerge of a certain nature then common sense would suggest public figures consider keeping their distance.


  • #201
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Paul K*mmage
    Former Former wrote: »
    No, that is not the case.

    Maybe they will be there as character witnesses later on in the process and wish to familiarise themselves with the courtroom environment. We don't know.

    Personally there are people I know that I would never believe capable of committing crimes unless they admitted it or I saw something in their face when the victim gives an account of the crime.

    He was there in a private capacity.
    Faugheen wrote: »
    You're not the captain of the Irish rugby team.

    No I'm not. Thank God for that.


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  • #202
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,923 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Isabelle Ithurburu
    irishfan9 wrote: »
    1st time ever that there has been more players from St. Michaels than Blackrock in an Ireland 23?

    How dare you incite one school better than the other.

    You. Me. Outside Kielys.

    Bring 30 mates


  • #203
    Buer
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    How dare you incite one school better than the other.

    You. Me. Outside Kielys.

    Bring 30 mates

    You vastly overestimate the popularity of those posting on this forum.


  • #204
    Bazzo
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    How dare you incite one school better than the other.

    You. Me. Outside Kielys.

    Bring 30 mates

    Did you hear what that started over? Apparently the Michaels lads were slagging off the Terenure lads over having cheaper school fees than them. I **** you not.


  • #205
    irishfan9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Did you hear what that started over? Apparently the Michaels lads were slagging off the Terenure lads over having cheaper school fees than them. I **** you not.

    if true that hilarious and ridiculous.


  • #206
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Paul K*mmage
    Bazzo wrote: »
    Did you hear what that started over? Apparently the Michaels lads were slagging off the Terenure lads over having cheaper school fees than them. I **** you not.

    Went up to play a different Dublin school when I was in school (not recently) and when our bus pulled up we got similar abuse, from non-players. Despised that school and its associated for about a decade, some of my most gratifying victories.


  • #207
    Bruce Scruffy Bun
    Posts: 0 ✭ Bruce Scruffy Bun


    Bazzo wrote: »
    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    How dare you incite one school better than the other.

    You. Me. Outside Kielys.

    Bring 30 mates

    Did you hear what that started over? Apparently the Michaels lads were slagging off the Terenure lads over having cheaper school fees than them. I **** you not.
    Serious value


  • #208
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,081 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Did you hear what that started over? Apparently the Michaels lads were slagging off the Terenure lads over having cheaper school fees than them. I **** you not.

    D4 types.

    Tarquin and Henry were most upset.


  • #209
    Zzippy
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    Isabelle Ithurburu
    irishfan9 wrote: »
    1st time ever that there has been more players from St. Michaels than Blackrock in an Ireland 23?

    If anyone actually gives a flying f*ck, that says an awful lot about them and nothing whatsoever to do with this thread.

    Back on topic please


  • #210
    mfceiling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    awec wrote: »
    D4 types.

    Tarquin and Henry were most upset.

    Not to mention Oscar and Fionn.


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  • #211
    NollagShona
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭NollagShona


    Isabelle Ithurburu
    I hope the guys steamroll jailbait the way the French steamrolled Sexton the last time I was in SdF


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