Politician rants on foreign freeloaders

zell12 · 01-02-2018 01:19PM #1

Businessman and politician rants on immigration, welfare abuse and the abuse of taxpayer funds.
He is “very angry” about “people who laze around and do nothing all day”, and called for a complete overhaul of the country’s taxation and welfare systems.
http://connachttribune.ie/former-mayors-attack-foreign-freeloaders-576/

He referred to a story of a person who was looking to get a bigger house from the City Council recently.
“When the case was examined the following was revealed;
Mr X is living in Galway, is a non-national, never worked in Ireland a day since he arrived nine years ago. He has a wife and his three daughters living with him. Discontented because his wife has not produced a son for him, he takes on a girlfriend/partner to live in the same house, whom he duly gets pregnant, but is very disappointed that it is another daughter!
Now Mr X has six females to look after in the one house, four bedrooms is not sufficient, so he requires a six-bedroom house.
When Mr X was asked why he does not work he replied that “work is hard, social welfare is easy”.
Yet again, who is the fool? When is the hard-pressed taxpayer going to get a break?"

granturismo · 01-02-2018 01:22PM

zell12 wrote: »

Businessman and politician rants on immigration, welfare abuse and the abuse of taxpayer funds.
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And what is your opinion as the OP

Borderfox · 01-02-2018 01:23PM

Anytime I had any interactions with the DSP they broke my balls so much that I found a job quicker. He must have thicker skin and a harder neck

zell12 · 01-02-2018 01:24PM

I think he has a valid point. He outlines the fact that we are subsidising people immigrating to Ireland and their life choices. All this whilst:

“We are standing at airport gates weekly waving goodbye to our well-educated youth as they emigrate in the hope of a better life, with a cheque in the other hand welcoming families who are here for a good time with no intention of making a contribution to the State”

s7ryf3925pivug · 01-02-2018 01:28PM

zell12 wrote: »

Businessman and politician rants on immigration, welfare abuse and the abuse of taxpayer funds.
He is “very angry” about “people who laze around and do nothing all day”, and called for a complete overhaul of the country’s taxation and welfare systems.
http://connachttribune.ie/former-mayors-attack-foreign-freeloaders-576/

Plenty of Irish people doing the same thing. Most non nationals I've observed are hard working.

With EU migrants, the benefits that go with allowing them in definitely outweigh the costs. They should be treated no differently to anyone else.

With people who came in as asylum seekers, if they're granted refugee status then they should be treated no differently to anyone else. If they're awaiting a decision then they should be treated no differently to anyone else either. If their application is rejected then they should be deported and not allowed unlimited appeals and unlimited stay as an asylum seeker. That we put up with obvious chancers does a huge disservice to genuine refugees, who end up getting lumped in with them.

Mutant z · 01-02-2018 01:31PM

He's completely spot on.

dr.fuzzenstein · 01-02-2018 01:48PM

Mutant z wrote: »

He's completely spot on.

Yes, all Irish are hardworking and wouldn't dream of being dole scroungers.
Unlike those lazy layabouts like the Poles and other Eastern Europeans :rolleyes:

padd b1975 · 01-02-2018 01:49PM

And yet there'll still be loons trying to claim that absolutely no one is gaming the system.

fergiesfolly · 01-02-2018 01:52PM

Politicians calling out Freeloaders.
Pot. Kettle. Black.

The_Kew_Tour · 01-02-2018 01:52PM

If I had my way I get rid of SW and only to people in need.

he is telling the truth about a High Minority.

zell12 · 01-02-2018 02:01PM

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Politicians calling out Freeloaders.
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Ah now in fairness, he's a successful businessman

BattleCorp · 01-02-2018 02:02PM

I don't give a fcuk if these scroungers are foreign or Irish. They should all be told to 'get tae fcuk'.

jimgoose · 01-02-2018 02:39PM

Vote Quimby.

SEPT 23 1989 · 01-02-2018 02:41PM

I wouldnt want to live on 188 a week but in saying that as someone who is self employed generating money for the state, its very annoying to see people who have contributed nothing arriving here getting money automatically in the social welfare office but if I went in if things went wrong i would get waterboarded.

TerrorFirmer · 01-02-2018 02:45PM

Podcast from Galway Bay FM here, it was the first thing on the current affairs show this morning.

https://galwaybayfm.ie/podcast-keith-finnegan-show-wednesday-december-6th-2017-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2/

Politicians calling out Freeloaders.
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Notwithstanding that he's a businessman/councillor (think they get about 16k salary + expenses), never got this whole 'politicans do nothing' spiel. Some TDs might be ineffective, but they're not idle nor freeloading....I wouldn't want to swap with any TD no matter how much they were paid, it's a horrible 24/7 grind.

suicide_circus · 01-02-2018 02:48PM

RIGHT2CASH

redcup342 · 01-02-2018 02:58PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Podcast from Galway Bay FM here, it was the first thing on the current affairs show this morning.

https://galwaybayfm.ie/podcast-keith-finnegan-show-wednesday-december-6th-2017-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2/

Notwithstanding that he's a businessman/councillor (think they get about 16k salary + expenses), never got this whole 'politicans do nothing' spiel. Some TDs might be ineffective, but they're not idle nor freeloading....I wouldn't want to swap with any TD no matter how much they were paid, it's a horrible 24/7 grind.

He owns a company

Also that company has a big contract with the NTA and looks like his company also has some special deal with Kildare CoCo for supplying Wheelie Bins.

Grayson · 01-02-2018 03:10PM

Remember Theresa May saying she heard of a guy was was given leave to stay in the UK because he had a cat?

And remember how the story was completely different to reality?

I have a feeling this story is probably even more disconnected.

the_syco · 01-02-2018 03:28PM

Former mayor of Galway City and well-known businessman Noel Larkin has hit out at Ireland’s PAYE taxation and social welfare system – and its “blatant misuse” by people who do not want to work and non-nationals.

Councillor Larkin – who owns Larkin Engineering in Tuam – issued a 1,500-statement last week in which he lambastes the Government for the “unjust” tax regime for PAYE workers, and the abuse of the system which offers “free money” for those who don’t want to work.

I wonder how many contracts he gave his own company whilst mayor, and now councillor? I'd say he's up to his eyeballs in corruption!

road_high · 01-02-2018 03:29PM

He's completely spot on. Ireland is beyond a soft touch for these welfare tourists- look at what % of Nigerians for example are on welfare. Why are they even being allowed come here? What value do they add? It's a large African country with zilch to do with us (we never colonized it), but yet they are drawn like magnets to a small nation of the north west coast of Europe.
I really couldn't give 2 fcuks if the snow flakes want to label this as racist or whatever driffle they care to use because it's the truth.

El Weirdo · 01-02-2018 03:32PM

Mr X is living in Galway, is a non-national, never worked in Ireland a day since he arrived nine years ago. He has a wife and his three daughters living with him. Discontented because his wife has not produced a son for him, he takes on a girlfriend/partner to live in the same house, whom he duly gets pregnant, but is very disappointed that it is another daughter!
Now Mr X has six females to look after in the one house, four bedrooms is not sufficient, so he requires a six-bedroom house.
When Mr X was asked why he does not work he replied that “work is hard, social welfare is easy”.

What a great anecdote.

road_high · 01-02-2018 03:32PM

Marianna Many Hazel wrote: »

Plenty of Irish people doing the same thing. Most non nationals I've observed are hard working.

With EU migrants, the benefits that go with allowing them in definitely outweigh the costs. They should be treated no differently to anyone else.

With people who came in as asylum seekers, if they're granted refugee status then they should be treated no differently to anyone else. If they're awaiting a decision then they should be treated no differently to anyone else either. If their application is rejected then they should be deported and not allowed unlimited appeals and unlimited stay as an asylum seeker. That we put up with obvious chancers does a huge disservice to genuine refugees, who end up getting lumped in with them.

Wow imagine an Irish person claiming welfare in their own country, Ireland. Not the same thing as foreigners parading in doing the same. Neither are right but no point hiding behind and trying to deflect saying the Irish are doing the same. That's an issue we need to tackle ourselves, not add even more to the pot.

williestroker1 · 01-02-2018 03:34PM

Marianna Many Hazel wrote: »

Plenty of Irish people doing the same thing. .

Ye, thousands of Irish signing on in Lagos.

donegaLroad · 01-02-2018 03:40PM

Its the people coming from the sh1thole countries are the problem. ;-)

kneemos · 01-02-2018 04:03PM

Grayson wrote: »

Remember Theresa May saying she heard of a guy was was given leave to stay in the UK because he had a cat?

And remember how the story was completely different to reality?

I have a feeling this story is probably even more disconnected.

Sounds a bit like the pram tale in fairness.

Also does nobody feel sorry for the guy? I mean he's gotta hit the target sooner or later.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-02-2018 04:15PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

What a great anecdote.

I'm not even sure it's an anecdote - I'd class it as urban myth.

mcmoustache · 01-02-2018 04:18PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

And yet there'll still be loons trying to claim that absolutely no one is gaming the system.

In fairness it's only a couple of predictable folk on here doing that and they don't really have the best credibility.

suicide_circus · 01-02-2018 04:21PM

People come to Europe for economic and quality of life reasons, who can blame them? At some point in the future however it stands to reason that in order to protect and maintain the benefits of European society which make it attractive to migrants, we will have to put the brakes on.

Grayson · 01-02-2018 04:24PM

In the story it says the politician had a 1,500 word rant. I can't actually find it anywhere.

Grayson · 01-02-2018 04:25PM

donegaLroad wrote: »

Its the people coming from the sh1thole countries counties are the problem. ;-)

Fixed that

mcmoustache · 01-02-2018 04:25PM

zell12 wrote: »

I think he has a valid point. He outlines the fact that we are subsidising people immigrating to Ireland and their life choices. All this whilst:

We shouldn't be subsidising poor life choices for anyone.

The problem here is that we offer this lifestyle as an option in the first place. Him being a foreigner isn't the real problem although I don't think anyone from abroad should be able to get state money until after two years of full employment. The real problem is a system that allows such behaviour in the first place.

Politician rants on foreign freeloaders

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