Journalism and cycling

buffalo · 27-01-2018 12:54PM

minikin wrote: »

No, but they might be more likely to see them if the cyclists didn't think it was a great idea to camouflage themselves by not wearing reflective clothing.

So cyclists are allowed go two abreast if they wear hi-viz?

Fighting Tao · 27-01-2018 01:27PM

monument wrote: »

The person overtaking is responsible, regardless of what they are overtaking.

Sometimes pointing out the obvious is still ignored. This is due to choice rather than accident.

Fighting Tao · 27-01-2018 01:30PM

minikin wrote: »

No, but they might be more likely to see them if the cyclists didn't think it was a great idea to camouflage themselves by not wearing reflective clothing.

You provided an image in daylight earlier with 2 cyclists wearing what may or may not be reflective clothing and I could see them clearly. I can't fathom how reflective clothing helps in daylight. Remind me how reflective clothing works in your mind please and then remind me how it scientifically is proven to work (note it may involve darkness and reflecting light back at the source it came from).

tomasrojo · 27-01-2018 03:40PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Remind me how reflective clothing works in your mind please and then remind me how it scientifically is proven to work (note it may involve darkness and reflecting light back at the source it came from).

Reminds me of the time I was run off the road in daylight by Helios in his sun chariot. My own fault; my lack of hi-viz meant I wasn't reflecting the light back at the source it came from.

TheChizler · 27-01-2018 03:48PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

Reminds me of the time I was run off the road in daylight by Helios in his sun chariot. My own fault; my lack of hi-viz meant I wasn't reflecting the light back at the source it came from.

It's amazing how drivers manage to avoid all the ninja ditches, trees, and kerbs.

Lemming · 27-01-2018 05:37PM

TheChizler wrote: »

It's amazing how drivers manage to avoid all the ninja ditches, trees, and kerbs.

Not to mention the other ninja drivers in dark colour cars without their lights turned on at dusk and - this one does my nut every time - silver coloured cars on the motorway in fog or poor visibility water-spray conditions with ....

... wait for it ... no lights. "I know, I'll just drive this here car at 70mph (120kph) whilst blending into the conditions such that other cars can't see me".

And then such drivers have the gaul & audacity to say the problem is cyclists not wearing reflective clothing. Fvck right off.

Lumen · 27-01-2018 06:54PM

Lemming wrote: »

this one does my nut every time - silver coloured cars on the motorway in fog or poor visibility water-spray conditions with ....

... wait for it ... no lights. "I know, I'll just drive this here car at 70mph (120kph) whilst blending into the conditions such that other cars can't see me"

I once t-boned a beige Volvo in heavy fog. It was extremely difficult to see.

monument · 27-01-2018 07:45PM

TheChizler wrote: »

It's amazing how drivers manage to avoid all the ninja ditches, trees, and kerbs.

That might be a part of the problem— they don’t!

captain a · 27-01-2018 11:15PM

http://www.aae.ie/on-shared-space/

27-01-2018 11:22PM

He lost me at "road tax"

captain a · 27-01-2018 11:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He lost me at "road tax"

I take full responsibility for getting that wrong, noticing it after i'd submitted and being too lazy to contact the editor after the fact.

amcalester · 27-01-2018 11:48PM

captain a wrote: »

http://www.aae.ie/on-shared-space/

Well that’s a fair crock of ****e.

28-01-2018 12:10AM

I confess I went back and read it fully he did have some decent thoughts re: road ownership and the amount paid vs actual cost per meter or kilometre but failed miserably then to say it's motor tax not road tax etc. and address that elephant in the room.

amcalester · 28-01-2018 12:16AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I confess I went back and read it fully he did have some decent thoughts re: road ownership and the amount paid vs actual cost per meter or kilometre but failed miserably then to say it's motor tax not road tax etc. and address that elephant in the room.

His thoughts are very poorly set forth though.

He repeatedly refers to cyclists as annoying, in an article about road users needing to share the space.

Seems like his bias is shining through.

buffalo · 30-01-2018 09:29AM

Some stories from Ireland...

Lucky escape for pensioner after van crashes into Co Down house or 'House not wearing enough hi-viz'.

Motorists angry as 21 cars clamped on South Dock Road or 'Some car owners angry as law is enforced after repeating warnings'.

Judge lifts one-year driving ban on FF councillor or 'Councillor commits dangerous offence in car, tries to scam his way out of it, but bizarrely is allowed keep both his public position and his driving licence because he's a publican (!!?) and a fuel supplier'.

Grassey · 30-01-2018 10:16AM

http://www.thejournal.ie/cyclists-injuries-ireland-3823052-Jan2018/

Nearly four cyclists are hospitalised in Ireland every day

OVER 2,600 CYCLISTS were hospitalised in road accidents in 2015 and 2016, new figures have revealed.

Just don't read the comments.... All the cyclists fault because 'Road tax'

Corca Baiscinn · 30-01-2018 11:10AM

Judge lifts one-year driving ban on FF councillor

Judge O’Donnell said he was lifting the driving ban given that O’Callaghan has no previous convictions and, when interviewed by gardaí, owned up.

I despair, someone gets a driving ban removed because when confronted with a blown up photo of themselves driving a vehicle they had denied driving they "owned up" What about the previous lying?

FF should expel him but how likely is that?

Fian · 30-01-2018 11:18AM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fathers-horror-as-armed-men-break-into-home-and-steal-bikes-while-he-was-upstairs-giving-his-children-a-bath-36543402.html

broke into house during the day to steal bikes.

Danbo! · 30-01-2018 11:54AM

Grassey wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/cyclists-injuries-ireland-3823052-Jan2018/

Just don't read the comments.... All the cyclists fault because 'Road tax'

Oh god the comments, why did I read the comments:(

The article is quite sobering. I've often worried about my safety given the numbers of fatalities in the last year, but never thought about it like this – 4 hospitalisations per day is nuts. I'm sure there are plenty more incidents that don't require hospitalisation too. The other unknown is how many are a quick check up in A&E and how many are long stints with life-changing injuries.

I read this tweet the other night too and have been particularly vigilant since.

https://twitter.com/ShaneOSullivan/status/957680212380209154

tomasrojo · 30-01-2018 12:48PM

Whether four per day is a big number really depends on what hospitalisation means on average, and how many people are cycling, and what cycling means.

A caveat about this data. We need to be sure that it only contains numbers of cyclists who were admitted via ED to a hospital bed as a result of impact with motorised vehicles. Are injuries suffered by children in falls off their bike at home included?

https://twitter.com/Cyclistie/status/958280148876488705

I think you'd assume at first it's people injured in a collision and requiring at least an overnight stay, but it probably doesn't mean only that.

Felexicon · 30-01-2018 06:32PM

It's just for fun!

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/01/30/suicidal-dublin-man-buys-bicycle/?utm_source=WWN_Facebook_Page&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Social_Link&utm_content=Article

Cookie_Monster · 30-01-2018 09:42PM

tomasrojo wrote: »

I think you'd assume at first it's people injured in a collision and requiring at least an overnight stay, but it probably doesn't mean only that.

I'm sure a large proportion are reckless MTBers trying to beat strava segments and hitting trees, if it's anything like round here

:pac::pac::pac:

Tenzor07 · 30-01-2018 10:06PM

Danbo! wrote: »

Oh god the comments, why did I read the comments:(

Don't go here either so: http://www.thejournal.ie/unannounced-cycle-lane-changes-cause-confusion-in-dublin-3823875-Jan2018/

Traumadoc · 30-01-2018 10:15PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I'm sure a large proportion are reckless MTBers trying to beat strava segments and hitting trees, if it's anything like round here :pac::pac::pac:

Mixture of everything I find, mountain bikers not so common more road cyclists slipping on ice ( pelvis and collar bones), women not used to cleats ( same), holiday makers who fail to put wheels on properly after they have taken them out of the car and "reassembled" them. Falling on potholes or badly designed cycle lanes- like a 2 inch kerb from a cycle lane down onto road,
Of course cars vs bikes , mostly cars turning into or out of side roads , one cyclist run over.

The estimation of injuries is probably grossly underestimated; the figures given on the above report are 2600 over 24 months, but one Dublin Hospital had over 500 in 12 months.

http://imj.ie/2715-2/

Given it represents approx 1% of attendances in SVH, one could guestimate national figures should be between 10-12000 per year.

eeeee · 30-01-2018 10:27PM

Traumadoc wrote: »

Mixture of everything I find, mountain bikers not so common more road cyclists slipping on ice ( pelvis and collar bones), women not used to cleats ( same), holiday makers who fail to put wheels on properly after they have taken them out of the car and "reassembled" them. Falling on potholes or badly designed cycle lanes- like a 2 inch kerb from a cycle lane down onto road,
Of course cars vs bikes , mostly cars turning into or out of side roads , one cyclist run over.

The estimation of injuries is probably grossly underestimated; the figures given on the above report are 2600 over 24 months, but one Dublin Hospital had over 500 in 12 months.

http://imj.ie/2715-2/

Given it represents approx 1% of attendances in SVH, one could guestimate national figures should be between 10-12000 per year.

Ha I'm one of the statistics! Except they didn't sort me out in Vincents in the end, but that's another story.

Surprisingly (to me) high incidence of spinal injuries, yikes.

30-01-2018 11:56PM

They missed a great opportunity on prime time there, should have included bikes in that race.

Pinch Flat · 30-01-2018 11:59PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They missed a great opportunity on prime time there, should have included bikes in that race.

At least your man driving is at his phone all the time. Blending in with most motorists. :pac:

Edit: your man in the car travelled 2km in 24 minutes. Jesus wept.

ednwireland · 31-01-2018 12:02AM

Deleted User wrote: »

They missed a great opportunity on prime time there, should have included bikes in that race.

just watching that on plus one wonder why they didn't include a cyclist. Probably cos they would have won.

It's a bit lets laugh at the poor saps on public transport

31-01-2018 12:04AM

25 minutes to go 2km in a car, my Granny walks faster than that and she's 90

I'm sure there are a few individuals who would drive that every day to go 5km in that grid lock. They'd all have been better off walking or on a bike.

Pinch Flat · 31-01-2018 12:09AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

25 minutes to go 2km in a car, my Granny walks faster than that and she's 90

I'm sure there are a few individuals who would drive that every day to go 5km in that grid lock. They'd all have been better off walking or on a bike.

Tune in next week folks when we pitch the private car against the common sloth.

https://goo.gl/images/3xdzrt

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