The idiots behind sulky racing

Ri_Nollaig · 23-01-2018 05:47PM

cherryghost wrote: »

How in gods name can someone defend their actions!?

Quicker to defend them than the poor people who got involved in accidents/damage to their cars over this. Nah, sure they have insurance be grand. Victimless crime!

The pregnant women will most likely claim off the driver who hit her but what about that driver? Where does that leave them but a nice [massive] renewal.

As for these clowns racing on a busy public road? Pavee Point and others will most likely divert the attention away and say "The Government [i.e. someone else] should pay to build purpose built race tracks and stables for them".

Vronsky · 23-01-2018 05:52PM

irishproduce wrote: »

To be fair to Gardai, there are no relevant laws to prosecute in this area.
Sulky racing is not illegal. Guards would have to go after some other action of those involved.

Like public endangerment?

It's not lack of laws, it's lack of enforcement. And it's not as of they don't know who is involved either. They're just seems to be no will to take on these people

knipex · 23-01-2018 06:00PM

The cork road and in particular the Croom bypass are the location of regular sulky races, particularly in Summer. Its either racing or times trials between overpasses and I am sick of reporting it the gardai.. Waste of time..

mcmoustache · 23-01-2018 06:06PM

cherryghost wrote: »

How in gods name can someone defend their actions!?

Oh there are lots of ways.

Whataboutery, pedantry, arguing from ignorance, deflection, portraying them as victims etc.

mcmoustache · 23-01-2018 06:08PM

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

As for these clowns racing on a busy public road? Pavee Point and others will most likely divert the attention away and say "The Government [i.e. someone else] should pay to build purpose built race tracks and stables for them".

...which would be turned into a scrapyard or a dump overnight.

Irish Guitarist · 23-01-2018 06:11PM

I've heard some bullshit in my time but claiming sulky racing isn't unique to travellers takes the biscuit.

BattleCorp · 23-01-2018 06:13PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I've heard some bullshit in my time but claiming sulky racing isn't unique to travellers takes the biscuit.

I'm certainly not in the pro-traveller camp as my previous posts/bans show but I can swear on my life that I know one settled person (non-traveller) who is involved with sulky racking.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 23-01-2018 06:15PM

Poor horses must be terrified. Vans and Jeeps blowing their horns at them.

wexie · 23-01-2018 06:20PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm certainly not in the pro-traveller camp as my previous posts/bans show but I can swear on my life that I know one settled person (non-traveller) who is involved with sulky racking.

Genuinely curious to know would he do it on a public road in a similar manner?

BattleCorp · 23-01-2018 06:24PM

wexie wrote: »

Genuinely curious to know would he do it on a public road in a similar manner?

I've no idea. I doubt it. I don't really have anything to do with him, I just know him.

23-01-2018 06:45PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I've heard some bullshit in my time but claiming sulky racing isn't unique to travellers takes the biscuit.

Wel, you couldn't be more wrong. Trotting and harness racing is pretty popular in West Cork and there are organised events in many towns, Durrus, Skibbereen, Drimoleague etc.

http://harnessracingcork.com

wexie · 23-01-2018 06:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wel, you couldn't be more wrong. Trotting and harness racing is pretty popular in West Cork and there are organised events in many towns, Durrus, Skibbereen, Drimoleague etc.

http://harnessracingcork.com

So there's really no need to be doing it on the roads then is there?

andekwarhola · 23-01-2018 06:52PM

In years to come, if we decide to create a virtual capsule of what life was like on boards in 2018, one of the first items will be a screen capture of a traveller thread on the front page of After Hours with between 150-3000 replies and the word Conor74 displayed in the Last Post column.

23-01-2018 06:54PM

wexie wrote: »

So there's really no need to be doing it on the roads then is there?

Well the races take place on roads - closed roads of course - beaches and fields afaik.

There is no need whatsoever to do it on roads that are not closed, and that's the crime. But calls to ban a perfectly legitimate sport because some break the law while doing it, or suggesting it is unique to traveller culture, are wrong.

Klinkhammer · 23-01-2018 07:00PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I've heard some bullshit in my time but claiming sulky racing isn't unique to travellers takes the biscuit.

These lads are not travellers.

https://cdn.rasset.ie/manifest/audio/2018/0116/20180116_rteradio1-seanorourke-shouldsulk_c21301663_21301669_261_/manifest.m3u8

weisses · 23-01-2018 07:03PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I've heard some bullshit in my time but claiming sulky racing isn't unique to travellers takes the biscuit.

In Ireland you mean ?

Pretty common on the mainland

https://thehague4you.wordpress.com/2017/08/30/duindigt-race-track-at-wassenaar/

Spanish Eyes · 23-01-2018 07:16PM

I agree with banning sulky racing from public roads.

But guess what? They won't care, it will be just another two fingered gesture to the law, and a challenge them to do what they want to anyway. Gardai appear to be terrified of them, so who will arrest them for breaking the law IF they break a ban on public roads, if introduced?

23-01-2018 07:38PM

wtf is a sulky race

wexie · 23-01-2018 07:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no need whatsoever to do it on roads that are not closed, and that's the crime. But calls to ban a perfectly legitimate sport because some break the law while doing it, or suggesting it is unique to traveller culture, are wrong.

I don't think anyone is arguing it should be banned in it's entirety though are they? (Least that's not the impression I'm getting?)

Just that it needs to be subject to the same rules and regulations as other events on public roads such as road closures, insurance, medical support, safety equipment, Garda cooperation and all that jazz.

I LOVE LIMERICK LIFE · 23-01-2018 07:42PM

Do people expect unarmed Gardai to arrest a hundred PAs armed with slashhooks, bars, golf clubs, while they have a baton and pepper spray.

Any Garda raid on a site has to have loads of units, riot squad, dog unit they're meet with that much hostility.

Odyssey 2005 · 23-01-2018 08:05PM

Once saw a sulkie slam into the back of a brand new car,writing it off. Poor horse was bollixed. They got up off the ground ,jumped back on and galloped off with their blocker car doing all it could,including driving directly at cars to stop them following.
Rang the garda and told them the score,where I was,where the accident happened (1/2 mile from a huge station) and the halting site they had gone into. Took the cops 1.5 hrs to respond
I rest my case.

Discodog · 23-01-2018 08:07PM

Anyone who doubts how the horses are treated should drive along the Headford Road Galway by the halting site. Two horses were involved in separate accidents with vehicles last week.

An operation was launched this afternoon to remove a number of animals at Carrowbrowne on the Headford Road.
It follows an emergency meeting held at County Hall yesterday – to discuss stray horses along the N84.
They’ve been responsible for a number of road crashes and near misses along the busy commuter route over the past number of years.
Local Authority officials and Gardai alongside private operators this afternoon moved on two sites at Carrowbrowne.
They removed a number of horses, which are described as being forced to live in ‘appalling’ conditions.
Councillor James Charity has welcomed the move and says further operations will be carried out in future if necessary.

https://galwaybayfm.ie/gardai-council-remove-horses-headford-road-site/

This week two more horses were on the Headford Road.

These are the same horses that had to be emergency fed & some drowned. If anyone else did this they would be prosecuted.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 23-01-2018 08:13PM

jonon9 wrote: »

Vermin the lot of them.

Mod note: jonon9, don't post in this thread again.

Buford T. Justice

c.p.w.g.w · 23-01-2018 08:17PM

knipex wrote: »

The cork road and in particular the Croom bypass are the location of regular sulky races, particularly in Summer. Its either racing or times trials between overpasses and I am sick of reporting it the gardai.. Waste of time..

Well placed I.E.D or Portable Spike Barrier

Cookie_Monster · 23-01-2018 08:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But calls to ban a perfectly legitimate sport because some break the law while doing it, or suggesting it is unique to traveller culture, are wrong.

what they are doing has no relation to the legitimate sport. On open roads and no animal welfare of any kind.

Don't even attempt to make the two appear similar, it's an insult to those involved in the real sport.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 23-01-2018 08:56PM

wildlifeboy wrote: »

knackers being knackers shock horrror

Mod note: wildlifeboy, don't post in this thread again.

Buford T. Justice

Mr. O · 23-01-2018 09:31PM

I don't get all these calls to make it illegal

Since when do travellers obey laws anyway?
Any damage they do will just be covered by the victim's car insurance and that person will unfortunately see a premium increase.

lawred2 · 23-01-2018 09:35PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Here's a picture of a well treated horse from a traveller sulky race.

fake news - he's only having a well earned rest

Beechwoodspark · 23-01-2018 09:38PM

The participants in these “races” should face upwards of ten years solitary hard labour...and then I woke up and realised this is Ireland - a little tut tut from the judge is about the height of it

Mr. O · 23-01-2018 09:39PM

Culture boss.

The idiots behind sulky racing

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