The Academies

MDunne14 · 18-01-2018 04:15PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Meagher at 10?

Him and Eoin Barr could will be a big match up in the context of the match

FellasFellas · 18-01-2018 04:23PM

MDunne14 wrote: »

Him and Eoin Barr could will be a big match up in the context of the match

Meagher defensively struggles so really don't reckon he'll be the starting 10. Is Byron fit? Wasn't he on crutches during the sleepout?

irishfan9 · 18-01-2018 04:37PM

Don't think it's a sure thing that Paddy Patterson makes the academy, maybe they will wait.. for Cormac Foley

Kenny hasn't played this season so looks very unlikely he will.

case885 · 18-01-2018 09:31PM

MDunne14 wrote:

Kieran Dunne! Yeah itâ€™s hard to call itâ€™ll depend on how they want to play I guess but it will be interesting to see how hawkshaw adapts to being in the centre

French will be in the reckoning too?

Stephen Hawkins football boots · 18-01-2018 09:57PM

Sudolife wrote: »

A 5th Year, Justin Leonard

Is he any good? He plays for coolmine too right?

irishfan9 · 18-01-2018 10:23PM

case885 wrote: »

French will be in the reckoning too?

french will start at 13.

munsters signing of a sa centre is bizarre given centre talent in province..

mccarthy, french, dunne, o'gorman and hurley.

Zzippy · 18-01-2018 10:59PM

Is this the school rugby thread? Cos I could have sworn that was locked for a few days.
Any more school rugby talk will be infracted. This is the academies thread

case885 · 19-01-2018 10:26PM

Thoughts on Roman Salanoa the American in the Leinster sub academy?
Munster were vilified for signing the 2 South Africans but this has slipped under radar strangely.

MDunne14 · 19-01-2018 10:47PM

case885 wrote: »

Thoughts on Roman Salanoa the American in the Leinster sub academy?
Munster were vilified for signing the 2 South Africans but this has slipped under radar strangely.

Seen him play at u20 very good player very explosive and has international rugby experience but having said that with the amount of tight heads coming through at leinster it’s a strange one alright and considering he’s been in the sub academy for a year now

MDunne14 · 19-01-2018 10:50PM

Question for someone with better knowledge of the Leinster academy was Charlie Connolly in the Leinster sub academy last year? Have seen he’s gone off to Italy to their lower leagues and was wondering if salonoa getting sub academy and him potentially not (I’m not sure) a contributing factor ??

RugbyRugby2016 · 19-01-2018 10:55PM

MDunne14 wrote: »

Question for someone with better knowledge of the Leinster academy was Charlie Connolly in the Leinster sub academy last year? Have seen he’s gone off to Italy to their lower leagues and was wondering if salonoa getting sub academy and him potentially not (I’m not sure) a contributing factor ??

I’m pretty sure he wasnt in the sub academy at the start of the season last year. Considering he went from not starting for blackrock in 6th yr to starting for Ireland u20s the next year he’s a difficult one to figure out what was going on

Jump_In_Jack · 19-01-2018 11:10PM

MDunne14 wrote: »

Seen him play at u20 very good player very explosive and has international rugby experience but having said that with the amount of tight heads coming through at leinster it’s a strange one alright and considering he’s been in the sub academy for a year now

Hasn't he only been with Leinster since September?
https://www.the42.ie/roman-salanoa-hawaii-leinster-rugby-3807005-Jan2018/

MDunne14 · 20-01-2018 11:38PM

James newey Bristol could be on his way back to one of the provinces having not been named in Bristol 2018/19 squad https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/ .. would be a cracking academy/dev deal for any of the provinces has premiership experience as 18yo and played a good few minutes for Bristol this year .. which province would he be suited best to? Connacht surely with Dave mc at Munster tob at leinster and Hume in ulster? Although I’d say any would take him if he is made available

Squidgy Black · 20-01-2018 11:47PM

MDunne14 wrote: »

James newey Bristol could be on his way back to one of the provinces having not been named in Bristol 2018/19 squad https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/ .. would be a cracking academy/dev deal for any of the provinces has premiership experience as 18yo and played a good few minutes for Bristol this year .. which province would he be suited best to? Connacht surely with Dave mc at Munster tob at leinster and Hume in ulster? Although I’d say any would take him if he is made available

Good chance he'll be looking for a senior contract in the UK before contemplating an academy deal over here. If they could get him at that rate I'm sure none of the academies would bat an eyelid at taking him though.

The Lost Sheep · 20-01-2018 11:48PM

MDunne14 wrote: »

James newey Bristol could be on his way back to one of the provinces having not been named in Bristol 2018/19 squad https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/ .. would be a cracking academy/dev deal for any of the provinces has premiership experience as 18yo and played a good few minutes for Bristol this year .. which province would he be suited best to? Connacht surely with Dave mc at Munster tob at leinster and Hume in ulster? Although I’d say any would take him if he is made available

Way back? Hasnt ever played here as part of provinces.
Id be surprised if he does come back. Its a long way to go to say he hasnt been named in their squad for next season yet considering its only 3 weeks into January,

MDunne14 · 20-01-2018 11:50PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Way back? Hasnt ever played here as part of provinces.
Id be surprised if he does come back. Its a long way to go to say he hasnt been named in their squad for next season yet considering its only 3 weeks into January,

Well you know what I meant , they’ve already announced 6 centres with 2 from their academy so It looks likely he could be on his way to Ireland unless you’d want 7 out and out centres in your squad ?

The Lost Sheep · 20-01-2018 11:52PM

MDunne14 wrote: »

Well you know what I meant , they’ve already announced 6 centres with 2 from their academy so It looks likely he could be on his way to Ireland unless you’d want 7 out and out centres in your squad ?

How is it likely he will end up in Ireland. He's irish qualified but doesnt mean he'll likely end up in Ireland for next season. Is much more likely if he even leaves Bristol to be playing rugby with another championship side or a national one side.

MDunne14 · 20-01-2018 11:53PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Way back? Hasnt ever played here as part of provinces.
Id be surprised if he does come back. Its a long way to go to say he hasnt been named in their squad for next season yet considering its only 3 weeks into January,

Well you know what I meant , they’ve already announced 6 centres with 2 from their academy so It looks likely he could be on his way to Ireland unless you’d want 7 out and out centres in your squad ?

MDunne14 · 20-01-2018 11:58PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

How is it likely he will end up in Ireland. He's irish qualified but doesnt mean he'll likely end up in Ireland for next season. Is much more likely if he even leaves Bristol to be playing rugby with another championship side or a national one side.

It’s likely because he’s came through the exiles system and made it clear he wants to represent Ireland and most lads that have come through the exiles system that are deemed good enough spend time with provinces in Ireland .. I.e Kieran Dunne , James McCarthy , Callum torpey, lewis sampson etc

The Lost Sheep · 21-01-2018 12:01AM

MDunne14 wrote: »

It’s likely because he’s came through the exiles system and made it clear he wants to represent Ireland and most lads that have come through the exiles system that are deemed good enough spend time with provinces in Ireland .. I.e Kieran Dunne , James McCarthy , Callum torpey, lewis sampson etc

Im way too pissed and tired/lazy to do it but there is a lot more exiles who've played irish age grade and represented ireland at age grade and then just preferred staying in UK especially if able to play pro rugby(or semi pro) even at national one level

MDunne14 · 21-01-2018 12:08AM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Im way too pissed and tired/lazy to do it but there is a lot more exiles who've played irish age grade and represented ireland at age grade and then just preferred staying in UK especially if able to play pro rugby(or semi pro) even at national one level

Not many have played Irish 20s and not come over bar Niall Saunders , if he has ambitions to push on and play international rugby he will look into it as a possibility like treadwell and wooten did , I’m not saying it’s happening but I’m saying it’s a possibility considering playing Irish 20s

irishfan9 · 22-01-2018 11:02AM

MDunne14 wrote: »

James newey Bristol could be on his way back to one of the provinces having not been named in Bristol 2018/19 squad https://www.bristolrugby.co.uk/news/signedupsaturday-the-wrap-up/ .. would be a cracking academy/dev deal for any of the provinces has premiership experience as 18yo and played a good few minutes for Bristol this year .. which province would he be suited best to? Connacht surely with Dave mc at Munster tob at leinster and Hume in ulster? Although I’d say any would take him if he is made available

not sure why leinster would tbh

irishfan9 · 24-01-2018 12:40PM

Ireland u20 squad announced.

Prop
Tom O'Toole(Banbridge/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Jack Aungier(St. Marys/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
Joe Byrne(DUFC/Leinster)
James French(UCC/Munster)
Jordan Duggan(Naas/Leinster)

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
Diarmaid Barron(Garryowen/Munster)

Second Row
Matthew Dalton(Malone/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Jack Dunne(DUFC/Leinster)
Cormac Daly(Clontarf/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(UCD/Leinster)
Ronan Coffey(Shannon/Munster)

Backrow
Sean Masterson(Corinthians/Connacht) - Connacht Academy
Joe Dunleavy(Malone/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Aaron Hall(Ballynhinch/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Jack O'Sullivan(UCC/Munster) - Munster Academy
Matthew Agnew(Ballymena/Ulster)
Max Kearney(DUFC/Leinster)

Scrumhalf
Jonny Stewart(Queens/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf/Leinster) - Leinster Academy

Outhalf
Angus Curtis(Queens/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Conor Dean(St. Marys/Leinster)
Harry Byrne(UCD/Leinster)

Outside Backs
Tommy O'Brien(UCD/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
James McCarthy(UL Bohs/Munster) - Munster Academy
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Leinster)
David McCarthy(Garryowen/Munster)
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Ulster)
Michael Silvester(DUFC/Leinster)
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne/Leinster)
Mark Keane(Queens/Ulster)
Conor Hayes(Young Munster/Munster)

irishfan9 · 25-01-2018 10:00AM

Peter Malone on Keynan Knox and Matt More

“They are two players that were identified and recruited in line with our succession plan and they have come with references from rugby credible contacts in South Africa who we have good relationships with.

“Keynan and Matt will train with the Academy within a structured programme that takes into account their age, relocating to a new country, and their personal development. Both players have adapted well in a short period of time and are looking forward to playing rugby.

“They only finished school in South Africa in November and since joining us, are following our Academy personal development programme. In the last few weeks they have already completed modules on financial planning, nutrition, and rest and recovery. They then will have the opportunity to continue with third level studies or vocational opportunities in line with the academic year next September.”

irishfan9 · 28-01-2018 09:20PM

kenyan knox made his ail debut this weekend for ul bohs

case885 · 28-01-2018 10:00PM

irishfan9 wrote:

kenyan knox made his ail debut this weekend for ul bohs

Interesting, do you know who's place he took?

MDunne14 · 28-01-2018 11:36PM

case885 wrote: »

Interesting, do you know who's place he took?

Oh sorry forgot he’s the only non Irish player in the ail ðŸ€£ get over yourself , he came off the bench

irishfan9 · 29-01-2018 09:29AM

Good to see Dylan Murphy starting for Cork Con at the weekend and Peter Kelleher coming off the bench. Both props still only 20.

padser · 29-01-2018 10:39AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ireland u20 squad announced.

Prop
Tom O'Toole(Banbridge/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Jack Aungier(St. Marys/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
Joe Byrne(DUFC/Leinster)
James French(UCC/Munster)
Jordan Duggan(Naas/Leinster)

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
Diarmaid Barron(Garryowen/Munster)

Second Row
Matthew Dalton(Malone/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Jack Dunne(DUFC/Leinster)
Cormac Daly(Clontarf/Leinster)
Charlie Ryan(UCD/Leinster)
Ronan Coffey(Shannon/Munster)

Backrow
Sean Masterson(Corinthians/Connacht) - Connacht Academy
Joe Dunleavy(Malone/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Aaron Hall(Ballynhinch/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Jack O'Sullivan(UCC/Munster) - Munster Academy
Matthew Agnew(Ballymena/Ulster)
Max Kearney(DUFC/Leinster)

Scrumhalf
Jonny Stewart(Queens/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf/Leinster) - Leinster Academy

Outhalf
Angus Curtis(Queens/Ulster) - Ulster Academy
Conor Dean(St. Marys/Leinster)
Harry Byrne(UCD/Leinster)

Outside Backs
Tommy O'Brien(UCD/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
James McCarthy(UL Bohs/Munster) - Munster Academy
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Leinster)
David McCarthy(Garryowen/Munster)
Angus Kernohan(Ballymena/Ulster)
Michael Silvester(DUFC/Leinster)
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne/Leinster)
Mark Keane(Queens/Ulster)
Conor Hayes(Young Munster/Munster)

I know it's not an ideal proxy - but I always try and count the number of players per province in these types of squads to get a rough feel for the relative quality through the various provincial systems.

Seems like the Leinster conveyer belt is still churning away, 15/32 in that sqaud

irishfan9 · 29-01-2018 10:43AM

padser wrote: »

I know it's not an ideal proxy - but I always try and count the number of players per province in these types of squads to get a rough feel for the relative quality through the various provincial systems.

Seems like the Leinster conveyer belt is still churning away, 15/32 in that sqaud

16 players from Leinster underage system. 1 currently in Connacht Academy, sure to be joined by others next season.

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