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Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    I couldn’t give a sh*te how you or anyone else thinks I look. Your posts are there for everyone to see and I’d be surprised if many would draw a different conclusion.

    You tried to excuse a racial taunt from a black person and having noticed some of your posts around here I concluded that you wouldn’t excuse it from a white person. Lock me up!!!

    Ah, I see you are all 'Black' this and 'white' that too. All I see is a rowdy teenager not liking being told what to do. Teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colour do that. To answer your skin colour divisory hypothetical situation that you have both made up and made up my response to already, if a white teenager had done similar I'd just call him a silly bastard like anyone else that age.

    I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I didn't say there was an excuse for it. My point was that teenagers can be rowdy for the sake of it and there's a way of handling it.

    You also never stated in your original post that it was your third time going out to them. You implied you had stormed out and given out to them for an accident like some old grump.

    Interesting how it's all 'Black' this and 'white' that in your posts about it though. All I see is a few rowdy teenagers acting up when they are being told what to do (which teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colours will tend to do believe it or not).

    I was a narky grump definitely. Anyone who’s knows me knows I’m a fusspot over the car and I dont want the ball kicked st it constantly.

    You are being condescending again by inferring “there’s a way of dealing with it” and I’m obviously to thickyo know How to deal with it the way you would do, because you are right and I must be wrong.
    .
    Can you show me where it’s all black this and white that in my posts? I’ve clearly said I never mentioned race when I went out.

    You see what you want to see and I see the reality because it happened to me.

    If you think that waving a fist someone’s face and saying black power threateningly is just rowdy teenagers and should be accepted it says more about you.

    For me, thank fck I’m out of there.

    The reality is.... most middle class people in their mostly middle class areas are not impacted by these issues. They dint have taxis refusing to bring them home because if attack’s. They don’t live in areas where this type of crap goes on, they don’t accept it could happen or make excuses just like you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Ah, I see you are all 'Black' this and 'white' that too. All I see is a rowdy teenager not liking being told what to do. Teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colour do that. To answer your skin colour divisory hypothetical situation that you have both made up and made up my response to already, if a white teenager had done similar I'd just call him a silly bastard like anyone else that age.

    I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.

    Ah sure yeah. Goodnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Ah, I see you are all 'Black' this and 'white' that too. All I see is a rowdy teenager not liking being told what to do. Teenagers of all shapes, sizes and colour do that. To answer your skin colour divisory hypothetical situation that you have both made up and made up my response to already, if a white teenager had done similar I'd just call him a silly bastard like anyone else that age.

    I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.


    Your back tracking is spectacular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Your back tracking is spectacular.

    What? Can't wait for your explanation to this. Go on, show me the backtracking.

    I'll put the popcorn in the microwave :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Your back tracking is spectacular.

    everyone else is black this and white that.

    Except the teenager who threatened “black power”

    He’s not black this or white that, he’s just a rowdy teenager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    anewme wrote: »
    everyone else is black this and white that.

    Except the teenager who threatened “black power”

    He’s not black this or white that, he’s just a rowdy teenager.

    Maybe you can explain my backtracking so. How is it backtracking if I was apparently saying the above since my first post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    What? Can't wait for your explanation to this. Go on, show me the backtracking.

    I'll put the popcorn in the microwave :)


    No explanation needed.

    Just because you can't see it. Doesn't mean others don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    No explanation needed.

    Just because you can't see it. Doesn't mean others don't.

    Do you know what backtracking means? Where did I change the point I was making?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Because of years about hearing about cars being bought by social welfare, free prams left at bustops, "de foreigners" openly "laughin at us" in conversation etc and so on.

    That’s just bull****.

    I’m telling you that someone came up and said black power in my face and you are saying you don’t believe it.?

    Do you believe immigrants to Ireland don’t get abuse or is it just one sided.?


    This is a bit more than saying Someone said that someone said that Someone got a free pram on the social.

    Do you not believe people when they say what happened. It was 18 years ago and I remember every second of it.

    You attitude is a bit scary to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 humpsterfire


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Most west europeans do accept people of different race as their own nationality though? I think we are more advanced and liberal societies than nigeria or saudi arabia. The fact that we accept people of different races and ethnicities as our own is one of the better characteristics of european society, not something that should be changed
    Brush what under the carpet anyway? You seriously think people of different race can't be considered irish? I think you'll find people with that view are a small minority in ireland, its nowhere near as common opinion as you seem to be making out in the 'real world'


    Be careful with the superiority lark there! Remember, societies are made of people, so an inferior society = inferior people. You might trip yourself up.

    On the contrary to you saying that ethnic differentiation is a minority opinion, I do believe that yes, the real world completely disagrees you (even you yourself are admitting that 70-80% already think that way.)

    Name the biggest issue in Europe today. Is it related to immigration, aka different people living together? Yes it is.

    Name the biggest issue in the United States today. Is it related to different people living together? Yes it is.

    Do you think its A) going to diminish as a problem as more and more people are involuntarily brought together, or B) that it will grow exponentially as a problem as time goes on?

    Check out history, like, all of it, for the age-old reaction of groups of different people to different people. It has never ended well.

    Cooperation? Yeah, we can definitely cooperate with each other from a distance. Integration? Never going to work out well with such numbers.

    So yeah, just like you admit about other countries in the world, the vast majority of Europeans will not accept non-Europeans as if they are European. I feel like I'm pointing out that the sky is blue here.....its not a case of liking it or not liking it: its the reality of the human race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Maybe you can explain my backtracking so. How is it backtracking if I was apparently saying the above since my first post?

    You accused of being liar which is unacceptable.

    Slurs on people’s character just because you were caught out being a condescending and rude ass says more about your own character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    anewme wrote: »
    You accused of being liar which is unacceptable.

    Slurs on people’s character just because you were caught out being a condescending and rude ass says more about your own character.

    Excuse me? Where did I accuse you of being a liar?

    Either apologise or I will be reporting your post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Excuse me? Where did I accuse you of being a liar?

    Either apologise or I will be reporting your post.


    Ha ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    So now you've moved on to:
    1. Imagining something I might post, if
    2. hypothetically a boards user made a post
    3. about a scenario that didn't happen?

    You can stand by that if you like, but you're making yourself look quite the fool by doing so. Maybe that's the look you're going for? Who knows, I'm not going to assume I know what you are striving for here.
    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Excuse me? Where did I accuse you of being a liar?

    Either apologise or I will be reporting your post.

    Sure you must be reporting half the place here at this point. There will be no one left.

    Number 3 above says the scenario did not happen in which case I must be lying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    anewme wrote: »
    Sure you must be reporting half the place here at this point. There will be no one left.

    Number 3 above says the scenario did not happen in which case I must be lying.

    I was obviously referring to the other posters comment about what I would apparently say in a scenario with a white teenager shouting white power. If you read what I am responding to that is obvious.

    My god...this place sometimes.

    I accept your apology in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I never said it was. I said in my first post it's great place to live.

    my point is that a liberal thinking country is now changing it's tune.

    my question is what will Ireland do different?

    what makes us special?

    Some in a liberal thinking country that was remarkably homogenous are having difficulty adjusting. Not just the refugees and immigrants now.
    Wibbs wrote:
    Indeed. The original locals might have a point to pick regarding how immigration affected them.

    The classic conflation of immigration and invasion/colonisation. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I was obviously referring to the other posters comment about what I would apparently say in a scenario with a white teenager shouting white power. If you read what I am responding to that is obvious.

    My god...this place sometimes.

    I accept your apology in advance.

    No it’s not obvious at all.... couple that with your other post about setting off to do an inspector Colombo style investigation about why I made the post at all would indicate that you don’t think it’s genuine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    anewme wrote: »
    No it’s not obvious at all.... couple that with your other post about setting off to do an inspector Colombo style investigation about why I made the post at all would indicate that you don’t think it’s genuine.

    Shhhhh. He'll report you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    anewme wrote: »
    No it’s not obvious at all.... couple that with your other post about setting off to do a Colombo investigation about why I made the post at all would indicate that you don’t think it’s genuine.

    Its very clearly obvious. I even set out (numbering the points 1, 2 and 3 to make it extremely clear once again) the 3 things the other poster has made up in their post. I wasn't even responding to anything you said in that post.

    So either you innocently misread the situation and are now refusing to back down and apologise for calling me a "condescending rude ass" because you don't have the character to do so, or else you just feel like engaging in a bit of trolling.

    Which is it? Either way you're not coming out of this very well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Some in a liberal thinking country that was remarkably homogenous are having difficulty adjusting. Not just the refugees and immigrants now.



    The classic conflation of immigration and invasion/colonisation. Well done.


    Yeah. Must be some adjustment for the locals having safe zones to avoid being raped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Its very clearly obvious. I even set out (numbering the points 1, 2 and 3 to make it extremely clear once again) the 3 things the other poster has made up in their post. I wasn't even responding to anything you said in that post.

    So either you innocently misread the situation and are now refusing to back down and apologise for calling me a "condescending rude ass" because you don't have the character to do so, or else you just feel like engaging in a bit of trolling.

    Which is it? Either way you're not coming out of this very well.


    I have the character to call you a condescending rude ass. What are you going to do?

    Report my post? 😀


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 humpsterfire


    Yeah. Must be some adjustment for the locals having safe zones to avoid being raped.

    While there is some merit to that kind of statement in some places, I find it amazing that some people can just NOT see the obvious happening around them.

    How can some people think that the furore over immigration/integration is some kind of "minority" feeling, like, everywhere? I'd genuinely love to hear what they think will happen with all this, do they think its going to blow over? How? In 5 years we'll all look back and laugh about it?

    This train hasn't even pulled out of the station yet :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    anewme wrote: »
    No it’s not obvious at all.... couple that with your other post about setting off to do an inspector Colombo style investigation about why I made the post at all would indicate that you don’t think it’s genuine.
    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    You might find if you ask people politely you'll get a politer response.
    Bubbaclaus wrote: »

    I must go back and see the basis as to why that anecdote was even posted. Particularly in this thread with the racist OP.

    Condescending rude .......and very patronising .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    one thing is for sure, Ireland is heading for a huge racial divide in the next decade. wont be as bad as other countries but its going to be significent all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    anewme wrote: »
    Condescending rude .......and very patronising .

    I see what I'm dealing with here. Too proud to apologise for falsely accusing a person of lying.

    Hopefully this is just your internet persona rather than your real life one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    I see what I'm dealing with here. Too proud to apologise for falsely accusing a person of lying.

    Hopefully this is just your internet persona rather than your real life one.


    Still condescending, rude and patronising. Hopefully this is just your internet persona rather than your real life one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 humpsterfire


    one thing is for sure, Ireland is heading for a huge racial divide in the next decade. wont be as bad as other countries but its going to be significent all the same.

    Whatever about the time frame, it doesn't result in just an "us V them" situation, its a triple threat of "most of us V some of us V them"

    So simple, just look at America. What a mess. Fracturing and fomenting hatred all round.

    The short-sightedness is almost bizarre. I don't look down on any people in particular, I just see them as being from different places and cultures, and that a lot of the time they don't mix well with other places and cultures. Its not a superiority/inferiority thing.

    Tribes of people fought wars for all time to establish their own groups, hence boundaries, territories, borders, countries. Why are certain groups of people so bloody intent on upsetting the balance created through time? Its idealism that drives this strange sentiment, and the one thing that will kick these people back into reality is the consequence (something they patently haven't experienced yet), like a naughty child playing with matches, they'll have to get burned to realise that history actually had a point after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,690 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Some in a liberal thinking country that was remarkably homogenous are having difficulty adjusting. Not just the refugees and immigrants now.



    The classic conflation of immigration and invasion/colonisation. Well done.

    I don't have problem with you if don't want answer as it not just question for you.

    but I will put the question forward for people again.

    Why will Ireland do it better?

    why will we be different or unique?

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Some in a liberal thinking country that was remarkably homogenous are having difficulty adjusting. Not just the refugees and immigrants now.
    Nope and I never said it was just the newcomers. It's people, on both sides. Colour, religion doesn't matter. They only signify to others differences. We only have to look north on our own island and the history of Ireland in general. All "white", basically the same religion and pretty much similar cultures, but different enough to have caused centuries of strife and death. The Troubles which lasted for what thirty years, had a death toll of 3000 men women and kids, on top of the general nastiness.

    Outside of ex colonies Multculturalism does not work(and it's not exactly roses within them). I'm still waiting for the pro "diversity" side to a) give me examples of where it has worked and b) what makes them think it'll work here? On the latter a few like yourself have noted that it's not the fault of people coming in and that "locals" have difficulty adjusting and I agree. So again why jump to copy every single other example where problems have arisen? Not when we have the opportunity to nip it in the bud before a generation on we're looking at the same crap as other European nations. It makes zero bloody sense to me. And no, "because diversity" isn't an answer.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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